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Remote name changes by personaomega on 01-11-2006 at 06:39 AM
I've got a somewhat odd question... does anybody here know if it's possible, through plugin or otherwise, to remotely change a person's nickname in MSN? With their permission, but without them going and doing it themselves. If anyone knows if it's possible, and better yet, how to do it, that would be great.
RE: Remote name changes by angel_eyez_132113 on 01-11-2006 at 09:54 AM
I think you can do this if you have Messenger Plus....but I aint sure....better get help from someone else to make sure lol
RE: Remote name changes by RaceProUK on 01-11-2006 at 04:08 PM
You can't do it using Plus! at all. Anyway, remotely changing someone else's name is a violation of their privacy, since you'd need some form of backdoor Trojan to do it.
RE: Remote name changes by L. Coyote on 01-11-2006 at 06:03 PM
quote:
Originally posted by raceprouk
You can't do it using Plus! at all. Anyway, remotely changing someone else's name is a violation of their privacy, since you'd need some form of backdoor Trojan to do it.
quote:It wouldn't be a violation of privacy if the other contact has given permission.
Originally posted by personaomega
With their permission, but without them going and doing it themselves.
And, while this is not a good enough idea to make it to the main MsgPlus! program, I think that a whitelist*-based plugin could be possible to make (mandatory for involved contacts, though).
quote:That's exactly what a whitelist is. A list of things that can happen, what's not there is not taken into account. In the case of software, what is allowed.
Originally posted by QtanJ
Maybe it could specify which emails would be able to change it.
quote:A plugin can be downloaded by anyone looking for it. Such as an extension for Firefox. I don't think many people install plugins without having a general idea of what they do.
Originally posted by colddove
Both or all people who install the patch would need to get a warning before all events and before the install or else it would be against the privacy policy.
If you read my somewhat short (and probably incomplete) explanation of what is whitelist, then you'd see that there is no privacy invasion at all.
(in that case)Update: I'm currently giving this a try as a plugin for MsgPlus!. If any experienced user wants to try it out with me, add me to MSNM (I still wouldn't give this out to just anyone who can't report problems properly).
RE: Remote name changes by colddove on 01-11-2006 at 08:48 PM
I would have to say, based on what I got from your question was that you need to change a name remotely. The only two ways you can do that is with Remote Assistance or Remote Desktop. I can't see it ever making it to any version of any software as the two previous methods that I listed are sufficient in doing that and anyone making software or patches know that, as stated in a previous reply,
quote:It's a violation of privacy and would need a backdoor Trojan. So if the person is at their computer, you'd wanna use Remote Assistance and if not, than you'd wanna use Remote Desktop. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Originally posted by raceprouk
You can't do it using Plus! at all. Anyway, remotely changing someone else's name is a violation of their privacy, since you'd need some form of backdoor Trojan to do it.
RE: Remote name changes by CookieRevised on 01-11-2006 at 09:12 PM
corrections to some posts in this thread:
There is no privacy issue involved here at all!!!!:
quote:Meaning with a password or white list scheme or whatever. And second, the contact needs to install the plugin also, so he installs such thing himself, it isn't forced upon him!
Originally posted by personaomega
With their permission
quote:This is perfectly possible with a (small) Plus! plugin using the RecieveNotify() function. Though, both you and the contact need the plugin to be installed... thus also Messenger Plus! of course.
Originally posted by personaomega
does anybody here know if it's possible, through plugin or otherwise, to remotely change a person's nickname in MSN?
You don't need advanced programs like remote desktop or whatever at all, if both you and your contact have Messenger Plus! and the plugin.
RE: Remote name changes by colddove on 01-11-2006 at 09:32 PM
Both or all people who install the patch would need to get a warning before all events and before the install or else it would be against the privacy policy. Plus, how would it be able to determine between who's allowing it and who's not? It would be against the privacy policy if you connect to another computer without someone on the other end, unless using RDP or something of the like.
RE: Remote name changes by QtanJ on 01-11-2006 at 09:41 PM
I'm not an expert, but am I wrong if I think it can look after a long password first and then a name? So only one person need the plugin or don't the plugins have read recieved text feature? For an example write j46kj7lk34hk56kl newname, and and then it will change the nick to newname if the nonsense before was the correct password. Maybe it could specify which emails would be able to change it.
If you install a plugin that allows everyone to change your nick and knows it then it's not against privacy policy. Maybe one accept each logon is required but not more than that.
RE: RE: Remote name changes by CookieRevised on 01-12-2006 at 06:14 AM
quote:There would be no privacy invasion at all, in any way.
Originally posted by colddove
Both or all people who install the patch would need to get a warning before all events and before the install or else it would be against the privacy policy.
quote:password, white list, whatever; there are lots of possebilities.
Originally posted by colddove
Plus, how would it be able to determine between who's allowing it and who's not?
quote:1) You never can "connect" to another computer without permission in any way (with a plugin or any other means)
Originally posted by colddove
It would be against the privacy policy if you connect to another computer without someone on the other end, unless using RDP or something of the like.
2) Even with RDP or whatever you still need permission.
But you don't need anything like that at all. Such plugin as pruposed is perfectly possible and there wouldn't be any privacy issue (not any security issue) at all.
quote:They do have a RecieveNotify() feature which indeed would be used in such a plugin as pruposed.
Originally posted by QtanJ
So only one person need the plugin or don't the plugins have read recieved text feature?
quote:Indeed. And that's how one should make such a plugin, especially with the 'white list' scheme, because the password would be viewable to everybody in a conversation).
For an example write j46kj7lk34hk56kl newname, and and then it will change the nick to newname if the nonsense before was the correct password. Maybe it could specify which emails would be able to change it.
RE: Remote name changes by L. Coyote on 01-15-2006 at 06:15 PM
If anyone is still intested in this, I made it a plugin. You can find it here: RemoteNick (along with information of how to use it and what it does).
I didn't have anyone to test it with, so I did it with StuffPlug's polygamy. However, I don't think it should be different.
If you have any suggestions or found a problem, let me know. 
Edit: Hmmm, seems I over-looked a problem in the whitelist. I'll correct it now. Don't bother downloading the plugin until I update this post.
Update: The bug has been corrected, you should now be able to manage the whitelist correctly. You must download the file again and reinstall the plugin.
RE: Remote name changes by Timothy003 on 01-15-2006 at 07:01 PM
Nice job, although I really don't find it useful since nobody I know is on the whitelist. 
RE: Remote name changes by CookieRevised on 01-15-2006 at 11:28 PM
quote:ermmm... the whitelist is what you set it to... :/
Originally posted by Timothy003
Nice job, although I really don't find it useful since nobody I know is on the whitelist.
RE: Remote name changes by Supersonicdarky on 01-16-2006 at 02:20 AM
you should develop the plugin to also alow you to change status and dp remotely. Maybe even sign out...
RE: Remote name changes by CookieRevised on 01-16-2006 at 08:42 AM
quote:I wouldn't go that far as there is already a plugin which does all that (and more), see below. Of course, more plugins is more choice, but you also don't need to re-invent the wheel, unless you invent a nice shining golden super round wheel of course
Originally posted by Supersonicdarky
you should develop the plugin to also alow you to change status and dp remotely. Maybe even sign out...
On the other hand, some added easy to implement basic function couldn't hurt I guess. But in that case he should rewrite the plugin so it only uses 1 command to do all what you can do in Plus! already.
In other words, it simply outputs in the conversation what you said it must. This makes that you can change your name remotely, change status, and even execute whatever other Plus! command or installed plugin command you like (or even simply send some text).
plugin command: /xremote
examples:
/xremote /nick my remotely changed nick
/xremote Hello?... Shit.... I'm talking to myself
/xremote /away
/xremote /persostat 2
/xremote /sound HubbaHubba
/xremote /xplugincommand
etc...
so no need for all kinds of special commands, just 1 command which simply outputs in its own convo window what you enter as parameter....
Of course, the whitelist protection must be absolutely perfectly be implemented for this without the smallest bug! Otherwise you would have some security issues...
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btw:
quote:
Originally posted by (CyBeRDuDe)
Shortcut Plugin Beta 0.5.01 Lets you do this..
It's not it's main target, but it features remote access to your MSN, so you can control your MSN Messenger at home from anywhere in the world using the Telnet client...
It lets you control almost anything possible with Messengers, but it does not let you see your contact list and messages recieved.. But sending messages, changing status, logging in.. Etc.. Can all be done by this plugin...
RE: Remote name changes by riahc4 on 01-21-2006 at 08:13 PM
Well instead of a plugin, cant this be made as a standalone app?