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WLM (final) error: WINHTTP.dll not found by The Pro on 06-20-2006 at 02:03 AM

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Anyone getting this error? I get this error when itry to run it.

I;ve tried using the repair feature by running installation file again. it did some repairing action and restarted my computer,  but i still get the same error...

I sure better hope that this is the legal version of WLM final cos i downloaded it from this link here: http://download.microsoft.com/download/3/e/0/3e04...tall_Messenger.exe


RE: WLM (final) error: WINHTTP.dll not found by Hank on 06-20-2006 at 02:05 AM

you are on XP correct?


RE: WLM (final) error: WINHTTP.dll not found by Reload2 on 06-20-2006 at 02:07 AM

Winhttp.dll isn't from the WLM installation package. It comes from a server files or something after what I've seen on microsoft.com


RE: WLM (final) error: WINHTTP.dll not found by Hank on 06-20-2006 at 02:09 AM

about the winhttp.dll problem an how to fix it


RE: WLM (final) error: WINHTTP.dll not found by The Pro on 06-20-2006 at 02:09 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Animal
you are on XP correct?

Yeah. WinXP Pro 2002 (dont think I;ve got SP)

May be its a component from one of the service paks
RE: WLM (final) error: WINHTTP.dll not found by Hank on 06-20-2006 at 02:14 AM

install SP2 if you dont have it installed , an have a look at that error/url i found on it


RE: WLM (final) error: WINHTTP.dll not found by ShawnZ on 06-20-2006 at 02:15 AM

That has nothing to do with it animal...


RE: WLM (final) error: WINHTTP.dll not found by Reload2 on 06-20-2006 at 02:17 AM

Don't snatch the first url on Google and give it as support, look at what it is before :S. It talks about winhttp5.dll on a windows 2000 server stuffs. Nothing to do with WLM :S


RE: WLM (final) error: WINHTTP.dll not found by The Pro on 06-20-2006 at 02:18 AM

whoa... I just googled it up and downloaded winhttp.dll and WLm now works

but im not sure if thats the right way to go on about it. lol


RE: WLM (final) error: WINHTTP.dll not found by Supersonicdarky on 06-20-2006 at 03:16 AM

i had various dlls missing before, and programs refused to run, i just downloaded the files and put them in c:\windows\system32 (just as a future reference)


RE: WLM (final) error: WINHTTP.dll not found by RebelSean on 06-20-2006 at 03:44 AM

quote:
Originally posted by The Pro
whoa... I just googled it up and downloaded winhttp.dll and WLm now works

but im not sure if thats the right way to go on about it. lol

Indeed, I've seen this issue on a few other forums.

quote:
Originally posted by Animal
install SP2 if you dont have it installed , an have a look at that error/url i found on it

Do tell me, what the hell does that have to do with anything? Honestly mate, if you don't know what you're talking about, no use in replying.
RE: WLM (final) error: WINHTTP.dll not found by jojoblo on 07-03-2006 at 10:52 AM

ok ok! This is the problem, For some reason this has occured in this latest version which was never had with any of the beta versions. Simply put someone hasnt put the WINHTTP.dll in with the installation and can be aquired online by googling that dll or from here : http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?winhttp where i got it from. Then simply extract to the C:\windows\system folder and open messenger live!


Hope this helps all!


RE: RE: WLM (final) error: WINHTTP.dll not found by Astynax on 07-05-2006 at 07:07 AM

quote:
Originally posted by ShawnZ
That has nothing to do with it animal...

quote:
Originally posted by RebelSean

Do tell me, what the hell does that have to do with anything? Honestly mate, if you don't know what you're talking about, no use in replying.



...WLM requires SP1

Computer and processor    Multimedia PC Pentium 233 MHz process (500 MHz recommended)
Operating system    Microsoft® Windows® XP
Memory    Minimum 128 MB of RAM (256 MB recommended)
Hard disk    Up to 50 MB of hard disk space for installation, 15 MB to run the program
Display    Minimum 800 x 600 screen resolution
Browser    Microsoft Internet Explorer version 6 SP1 or later must be installed on your computer, though it does not need to be your default.
Internet connection    Internet functionality requires dial-up or broadband Internet access (provided separately). Local or long-distance charges may apply.

the stock version of XP only has IE6.

IE6 SP1 is installed either separately or in XP SP1

WINHTTP.dll is installed with SP1


quote:
What's New in WinHTTP 5.1

This topic describes the most important differences between WinHTTP version 5.1 and version 5.0. Many of these differences require code changes in applications migrating from version 5.0 to version 5.1. Some of the new features in version 5.1 are only available with Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP SP2, particularly features related to improving the security of the client against malicious Web servers.
DLL Name Change

The name of the new WinHTTP 5.1 DLL is Winhttp.dll, whereas the name of the WinHTTP 5.0 DLL is Winhttp5.dll.

WinHTTP 5.0 and 5.1 can coexist on the same system; WinHTTP 5.1 does not replace, or install over, WinHTTP 5.0.
Redistribution

WinHTTP 5.1 is available only with Windows Server 2003, Windows XP SP1, and Windows 2000 Professional SP3. A redistributable merge module (.msm) file is not available for WinHTTP 5.1.

so.. in other words.. it has everything to do with the problem.

quote:
Originally posted by Reload2
Don't snatch the first url on Google and give it as support, look at what it is before :S. It talks about winhttp5.dll on a windows 2000 server stuffs. Nothing to do with WLM :S

different file
winhttp5.dll is not the one being looked for.

Non SP copies of XP doesn't have WinHttp.dll, only winhttp5.dll, you need to have atleast windows XP SP1 installed to run WLM. as the WinHTTP.dll file is installed in XP SP1.
RE: WLM (final) error: WINHTTP.dll not found by RaceProUK on 07-05-2006 at 11:01 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Supersonicdarky
i had various dlls missing before, and programs refused to run, i just downloaded the files and put them in c:\windows\system32 (just as a future reference)
Do you have any idea
a) how bad that can be and
b) how illegal that is?
The EULA forbids redistribution unless in a redist package, and Microsoft provides plenty of them. If you have DLLs missing, don't download them from some website, get them in Redist packages from Microsoft. That way, if a DLL relies on others, those others will also be installed.
RE: WLM (final) error: WINHTTP.dll not found by Astynax on 07-07-2006 at 08:40 AM

i've reported this on the butterfly newsgroup and its been forwarded onto the WLM team, hopefully the next version will either contain the missing dll for XP base users or it will only install on XP SP1+ updated machines.


RE: RE: WLM (final) error: WINHTTP.dll not found by RaPLeX on 07-07-2006 at 09:56 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Supersonicdarky
i had various dlls missing before, and programs refused to run, i just downloaded the files and put them in c:\windows\system32 (just as a future reference)


i aggre,let download WINHTTP.dll and put in system 32.
RE: RE: WLM (final) error: WINHTTP.dll not found by jukaimessenger on 07-07-2006 at 10:52 AM

quote:
Originally posted by jojoblo
ok ok! This is the problem, For some reason this has occured in this latest version which was never had with any of the beta versions. Simply put someone hasnt put the WINHTTP.dll in with the installation and can be aquired online by googling that dll or from here : http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?winhttp where i got it from. Then simply extract to the C:\windows\system folder and open messenger live!


Hope this helps all!


When I installed WLM and when it ran it said that winhttp.dll was missing. And as soon as I saw this post I did what exactly it said and it worked somehow lol.

But upon reading posts following this post one said that this is very bad and illegal and the right thing to do was to download some redist package. So is it ok just to download that winhttp.dll file and put it in the c/windows/system folder or do I need to download a redist package(which I do not know much about)?

Thanks for any help provided
RE: WLM (final) error: WINHTTP.dll not found by Sunshine on 07-07-2006 at 10:55 AM

quote:
Originally posted by RaceProUK
I don't want to seem rude.

And I've requested this be split too, from pid688902: I don't think it needs to remain here.
You don't want to seem rude, but are you prepared for the next question? Where can i download this redist package?

I requested a split aswell...i posted what i did inhere to show you how your helping isn't really helping.

Ohh and btw there is another thread about this and i verified the download i mentioned there to be the very same version as i have on my computer. And seeing as i update my windows frequently this must be the latest (ver. 5.1.2600.2180).

Thread/post i'm on about: Sunshine's reply to Problem after installation
quote:
Originally posted by jukaimessenger
When I installed WLM and when it ran it said that winhttp.dll was missing. And as soon as I saw this post I did what exactly it said and it worked somehow lol.

But upon reading posts following this post one said that this is very bad and illegal and the right thing to do was to download some redist package. So is it ok just to download that winhttp.dll file and put it in the c/windows/system folder or do I need to download a redist package(which I do not know much about)?

Thanks for any help provided
I don't see a problem in the dll you used as it's the same one i verified to be the same as mine (OS: WinXP Pro SP2).

I will leave it upto Raceprouk to explain about the redistpackage seeing as he started about this i think he should be the one providing you with a link to it and a decent explanation. Time to finish what you started raceprouk :P
RE: WLM (final) error: WINHTTP.dll not found by ddunk on 07-07-2006 at 11:04 AM

Yay for arguments. \o/

Windows XP KB842773 (includes BITS 2.0 and WinHTTP 5.1)

Rest of the KB article: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=842773


RE: WLM (final) error: WINHTTP.dll not found by Sunshine on 07-07-2006 at 11:08 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Ddunk
Yay for arguments. \o/

Windows XP KB842773 (includes BITS 2.0 and WinHTTP 5.1)

Rest of the KB article: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=842773
Lol yes Ddunk sometimes it seems needed to point some things out like that.

The download you found, i found already also but the point with this one is that it's an upgrade..how about if you don't have winhttp.dll to begin with? Unless i read over it, i don't think it will install winhttp 5.1 if no older version exists (please proove me wrong).
RE: WLM (final) error: WINHTTP.dll not found by Astynax on 07-07-2006 at 11:31 AM

Windows XP always installs the 5.0 version.

XP SP1 always installs the 5.1 version (which doesn't overwrite the 5.0 version a they have different file names)

btw, guys, the redist you want, without installing SP1/SP2

is the Internet Explorer 6.1 (sp1) package.


RE: WLM (final) error: WINHTTP.dll not found by RaceProUK on 07-07-2006 at 12:34 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Sunshine
I don't see a problem in the dll you used as it's the same one i verified to be the same as mine.
I'm still unsure about the lagality of these DLL hosting sites. I suggested the redist as they do comply with the EULA.
quote:
Originally posted by Sunshine
how about if you don't have winhttp.dll to begin with?
My guess is it'll install the file anyway. After all, it's still an upgrade, just from 'nothing' ;)
RE: WLM (final) error: WINHTTP.dll not found by Astynax on 07-07-2006 at 01:44 PM

the dll's are all legal, theres nothing illegal about hosting dll files aslong as they aren't tampered with.

you are allowed to copy and paste dlls into system 32 as well as sometimes some programs won't work becoz they are missing dll files from older installs of windows.


RE: WLM (final) error: WINHTTP.dll not found by CookieRevised on 07-07-2006 at 02:27 PM

quote:
Originally posted by RaceProUK
My guess is it'll install the file anyway. After all, it's still an upgrade, just from 'nothing' ;)
In general that wont work at all. An upgrade will not install unless you have the 'older' version. Extremely many redists come as upgrades and will not be installed as 'new'.
quote:
Originally posted by yourmama_20
the dll's are all legal, theres nothing illegal about hosting dll files aslong as they aren't tampered with.

you are allowed to copy and paste dlls into system 32 as well as sometimes some programs won't work becoz they are missing dll files from older installs of windows.
absolutely wrong. Most of all those DLLs are not allowed to be redistributed!!!! And there are perfectly good reasons for it too. Almost all those DLLs have different versions, not to mention have different branches for different OSes. Bluntly downloading a DLL from a random site and copying it to your system32 directory is:
1) illegal
2) will quite often produce other problems (and quite often not that visible at first)
3) will almost always not properly install the DLL in question. (it doesn't mean that if your app works now, that the DLL is installed properly in the registry for other apps).

If you are missing a DLL it is very very very adviseable to download the official and latest redistributeable package for your OS version from the official Download Center of Microsoft.
RE: WLM (final) error: WINHTTP.dll not found by Astynax on 07-07-2006 at 03:22 PM

the files are perfectly fine to be redistributed on dllfiles.com and other places.. microsoft does not care and will even direc you to these sites to get them if you don't have them.

the dll files usually have instructions for installing them, and are sorted by OS so you always get the right verison for your os.

not that it matters, i've been able to successfully run XP dll's on ME machines many a time without an issue ever occuring.

btw, i'd like you to find me the clause which states its illegal to download unmodified dll files if you require them for something.

microsoft has been directing people to dllfiles.com for many a year if you are missing files like the

Msvcp71.dll
Msvcr70.dll
Msvcr71.dll

and inform you where to place them.

these don't tend to come in redestributables anymore as they were for older os's but they work fine in XP for many a program that requires them.

IF it was illegal, microsoft, long ago would have sent cease and desist letters to these sites and they would not be in existance, so obviously the law does not apply to providing original, un modified versions of dll's for usage if you need them.

now if they are modified or hacked.. then that would be different.

but seeing as you own a microsoft product, and many of the missing dll's are usually ms's own, you have full legal right to obtain the dll and file as you have purchased a license to a copy of microsoft windows meaning that if a program doesn't work for you, then you have full right to get the file required to make it work right.

microsoft owes us.. the customers, and if they start suing becoz of this.. then its them that loses out. becoz it will drive away customers and lose millions of  dollars,... i think ms are having enough anti trust problems at the moment.. without losing more customers to Linux and mac...

now iv'e asked a few friends who work for ibm and microsoft and they themselves say that as long as the files are the correct ones for the os, and aren't to be modified or hacked, then the end user has legal right to use them as they own a legally licensed copy of the operating system that requires them.

that in itself means that if the os is missing files then the end user can download the ones they need to fix it.

i've even seen some fresh copies of XP miss files sometimes and having to either download or expand them from the disk.

in the end, downloading them is easier and is basically the same as expanding the same missing file from a disk.

but it people want to be sure that the file is the right one, then they should download and install atleast SP1 as the file is contained in that.

if the person has not got SP1 and is missing the file. then it IS illegal to have the SP1 copy of the file.

but if they do have SP1 and the file is missing then they can download or expand it from the appropriate medium.

when i updated my works systems to SP2 it missed out a couple of files and we could not get the NTVDM to start and could not get bat patching to work.. so i downloaded the files missing from the net.. id like someone to find somene illegal with that?


RE: WLM (final) error: WINHTTP.dll not found by RaceProUK on 07-07-2006 at 03:58 PM

quote:
Originally posted by yourmama_20
Msvcp71.dll
Msvcr70.dll
Msvcr71.dll
Should be available in the Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable Package, which is a redist provided by Microsoft.
quote:
Originally posted by yourmama_20
but seeing as you own a microsoft product, and many of the missing dll's are usually ms's own, you have full legal right to obtain the dll and file as you have purchased a license
But the sites don't have a licence to distribute, which is the issue here.
RE: WLM (final) error: WINHTTP.dll not found by jukaimessenger on 07-08-2006 at 12:47 AM

I downloaded the winhttp.dll file from dll-files.com and put it into the c:/windows/system folder and msn live messenger worked. It seems you need to put it into the system32 folder. Does this matter? I am unsure of the difference between the system folder and the system 32 folder.

Also it would be nice if you can provide me with the link to the winhttp.dll redistributeable package download site. Thanks


RE: RE: WLM (final) error: WINHTTP.dll not found by CookieRevised on 07-08-2006 at 11:17 AM

quote:
Originally posted by yourmama_20
the files are perfectly fine to be redistributed on dllfiles.com and other places.. microsoft does not care and will even direc you to these sites to get them if you don't have them.
I dunno where you get that from but that's absolutely untrue...

And if certain DLLs can be redistributed (note: they exist, but are certainly not the majority), they are NOT linked by MS to 3rd party sites, but they are linked to an official MS site...

quote:
Originally posted by yourmama_20
the dll files usually have instructions for installing them, and are sorted by OS so you always get the right verison for your os.
If you're talking about sites as dllfiles.com I can tell you for sure that extremely many files on there are seriously outdated and mostly do NOT contain ALL the PROPER instructions. Not to mention they almost never contain other language versions than the English one (yes, in some cases the language must be the correct one or you will experience other errors at another time/point).

quote:
Originally posted by yourmama_20
but seeing as you own a microsoft product, and many of the missing dll's are usually ms's own, you have full legal right to obtain the dll and file as you have purchased a license to a copy of microsoft windows meaning that if a program doesn't work for you, then you have full right to get the file required to make it work right.
1) by obtaining the file by either re-installing or downloading it from an OFFICIAL MS site.
2) obtaining a missing file is something entirly different than redistributing a file as RaceProUK also said.

quote:
Originally posted by yourmama_20
now iv'e asked a few friends who work for ibm and microsoft and they themselves say that as long as the files are the correct ones for the os (...)
And stop right there... as I said almost all 3rd party sites which offer such files do NOT contain the latest and CORRECT files for the "os". Even so, it is a pain in the rear end to find the latest correct file and many errors experienced by people are due to the fact they "installed" the wrong file at one point in the past (because they thought it was the correct thing todo as in that point of time another program apparently seemed to work). This forum too contains many threads which show this as proof...

quote:
Originally posted by jukaimessenger
I downloaded the winhttp.dll file from dll-files.com and put it into the c:/windows/system folder and msn live messenger worked. It seems you need to put it into the system32 folder. Does this matter? I am unsure of the difference between the system folder and the system 32 folder.
yep, it matters.

"system32" is the folder where Windows (XP/NT) will look when it needs to load libraries.

"system" is the old system folder which is used for compatibility reasons and 16bit programs.

quote:
Originally posted by jukaimessenger
Also it would be nice if you can provide me with the link to the winhttp.dll redistributeable package download site. Thanks
winhttp 5.1 is not redistributeable, hence you will not find such a package (the 5.0 version is also not longer supported and not longer available because of it).

5.1 is now a system component and can only be (legally) installed if you update your Windows XP with SP1 or for example with MSIE SP1...

to find links, search the microsoft site and microsoft's download center with "winhttp".

a possible source would be:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=b93356b1-...
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=1e1550cb-...

also read:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url...nhttp_versions.asp
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url...in_winhttp_5_1.asp
RE: WLM (final) error: WINHTTP.dll not found by RaceProUK on 07-08-2006 at 10:24 PM

IMHO, sites like dllfiles.com should be shut down. They distribute illegally, and cause too many problems.