I get this error when trying to load Plus.
I have both 7.5msn with 3.6plus!
and 8.0 with plus live 4.00
Could this be a problem?????

What error?

Sorry, i forgot to include a screeni.
Heres the error i get: Error Loading

I got this problem too. I posted it (and edited it cause some mod told me not to) right on the release page, but obviously I was left stranded there with no one helping me...

EDIT: This is making me soo pissed off after waiting for it for 4 months. Somewhat disapointed.

I'm getting the same problem.  Also when I click on the plus tab in the main msn messenger window it says software not loaded.

Waited all this time and it doesnt even work. Takes the pisss

Try using 787, maybe it's the problem

xD, Ingiliz_cezahsi are you jqk on IRC? 'Cause this guy is helping me with this, and that screenie is mine (it is my desktop pc )

Thank you all, I hope we could fix this problem soon!, I'm also looking for something strange

By the way, I tried with 787 and nothing changed.

Greetings.

Sorry if I sound a fool, but what do you mean by 787?

Yea sorry mate, i saw you had the same problem as me on irc and i thought i would post a message in here as well.
I hope u dont mind,i can take it down if u want me to.
(have u managed to get it working??????)

You should be using build 792.

Given that build 792 is being used in that screenshot, I'd try this:
uninstall MsgPlus, reboot, temporarily disable any antivirus/antispyware software, and reinstall MsgPlus Live.

Oh, and if you used a patch for Messenger, try reinstalling Messenger.

Same here, i tried a fresh reinstall of both messenger and Plus; to no avail

I've tried everything except re-installing Windows, which I dont plan to do, and it still doesnt work.

Same problem here

Same problem here

To everyone who has this problem:

Could you guys post some more info?

• What version of Windows?
  
• Which service pack installed (if you know)?
  
• Exact version of Messenger?
  
• Do you also have other Messenger versions installed/running except Live Messenger (MSN Messenger?)
  
• Do you use any other Messenger plugins/addon?
  
• Do you use and visualization software like StyleXP, WindowBlinds or any other "themeing software"?
  
• Do you use any kind of antivirus/firewall/antispyware that could be blocking things, which?

Windows XP with Service Pack 1 or 2
WLM Version 8.0.0792
no
no
StyleXP
Zone Alarm but turned off

I don't have any service pack installed, Using build latest one 0792. No Other msn live installed. Only have the latest mess patch for it. and no to the other things. And windows xp i have of course.

Hello guys,
I have also the same problem. But i have tested Plus Live in both PC's. The one has Windows XP no service packs installed, and StyleXP also. No other antivirus software or stuff. In this PC Plus Live doesn't work.

In my laptop, i have Windows XP SP2 with no StyleXP installed, and again no other particular software and here Plus Live works like a charm.

So the main suspect is either StyleXP or the Service Packs, but i doubt to be the 2nd one.
A fix have to be released soon i think to this problem.
In both PC's i use the 787 version.

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Originally posted by MenthiX
To everyone who has this problem:

Could you guys post some more info?

• What version of Windows?
  
• Which service pack installed (if you know)?
  
• Exact version of Messenger?
  
• Do you also have other Messenger versions installed/running except Live Messenger (MSN Messenger?)
  
• Do you use any other Messenger plugins/addon?
  
• Do you use and visualization software like StyleXP, WindowBlinds or any other "themeing software"?
  
• Do you use any kind of antivirus/firewall/antispyware that could be blocking things, which?

Please answer these questions as much and as detailed as you can so Patchou can try to find a fix for this.

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Humm, as Nick2k6 said...

I think the problem is with Service Packs, right?

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Originally posted by Nick2k6
So the main suspect is either StyleXP or the Service Packs, but i doubt to be the 2nd one.
A fix have to be released soon i think to this problem.
In both PC's i use the 787 version.

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Originally posted by MenthiX
To everyone who has this problem:

Could you guys post some more info?

• What version of Windows?
  
• Which service pack installed (if you know)?
  
• Exact version of Messenger?
  
• Do you also have other Messenger versions installed/running except Live Messenger (MSN Messenger?)
  
• Do you use any other Messenger plugins/addon?
  
• Do you use and visualization software like StyleXP, WindowBlinds or any other "themeing software"?
  
• Do you use any kind of antivirus/firewall/antispyware that could be blocking things, which?

Please answer these questions as much and as detailed as you can so Patchou can try to find a fix for this.

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Originally posted by NagamasaAzai
Maybe, but I dont see a relationship between StyleXP and MP!L

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* Windows XP
* 2
* 8.0.0792
* no
* no
* StyleXP
* bitdefender professional plus

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Originally posted by MenthiX

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Originally posted by NagamasaAzai
Maybe, but I dont see a relationship between StyleXP and MP!L

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There have been problems with such theming applications in the past. Messenger Plus! uses a hooking function to get it's menuitem in WLM, applications with StyleXP can mess this up.

Can you temponary unload StyleXP completely (so go back to Windows default theme and make sure StyleXP is shutdown completely) and see if installation succeeds then and loads?

If that doesn't help you could also try uninstalling StyleXP, reboot and try again.

At least we're sure it is StyleXP then and Patchou can look if it's possible to fix.

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I dunno why im having problems though with mine i don't have the service pack or even style xp installed on mine and it does the same thing. I was looking forward to using it too it's weird how some people aren't having the problem. But oh well there probably is a solution somehow.

I think the problem is going to be the non service pack, because I also don't have installed any on Windows XP Professional.

For themes, I have the patch for uxtheme (StyleXP I think), but this is very used arround, so I don't thinks this is the problem.

I hope a fix deal with this, because I don't want to install Service Packs xD

I only use Plus! and Free-AV, SpyBot and without firewall.

Im also on XP Pro, with no Service pack. And I do not have StyleXP installed.

Attempt finished. Attempt failed.

Ca va mal Patchou! J'aime Messenger Plus! et il ne peut pas faire sa travaille! (I am from Ontario, Canada so thats why I'm billingual.)

EDIT: Attempt shall be attempted tomorrow due to the fact that the attempter shall have enough rest. lol this is a really funny way to write.

EDIT 2: Attempter changed his mind. Due to following posts, the attempt is cancelled, but the attempter itself is going to rest anyways.

Guys it has to do with the Service Packs i think. I attempted to unload styleXP, revert to the default theme, kill the service, reinistalled both WLM and Live Plus, and again the same, it doesn't work. So StyleXP can't be the problem after all as many people here, don't have it installed and again they have the same error.

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Originally posted by GiBraiNe
I think the problem is going to be the non service pack, because I also don't have installed any on Windows XP Professional.

For themes, I have the patch for uxtheme (StyleXP I think), but this is very used arround, so I don't thinks this is the problem.

I hope a fix deal with this, because I don't want to install Service Packs xD

I only use Plus! and Free-AV, SpyBot and without firewall.

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Originally posted by doug2k2
Well it can't be the service pack part cause some people that posted earlier there info have service pack 1 or 2 installed and same problem.

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My guess SP2 has to be installed?

Could it be a problem with the hosts file? Can anyone with a system that runs MSG PLUS Live without problems post their own hosts file? It is located at C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc

Hmm, you might actually be correct on that one Animal. But strange it doesn't just say "You don't have SP2. You must have SP2 for Plus! to run, download it here" or something.

Here it is, the hosts file of my laptop with SP2. Here Plus Live works ok:


127.0.0.1       localhost

127.0.0.1 muser.messenger.hotmail.com

127.0.0.1 muser.messenger.hotmail.com

Skai has service pack 2 installed cause 1st question was what os are you using she has Windows xp for there then what service pack installed if any she put a 2 in there which means service pack 2 and has the same problem.

We will see doug2k2, till now most of the people that has the problem are the those with no sp installed. If more people confirms that they have the problem and are on SP2 then the problem might be elsewhere.

Im hoping it's not cause of not having service pack 2 installed that it turns out to be cause i had tons of problems with programs not running when i had sp2 installed that got fixed by removing it.

Yes i know, there are indeed tons of incompatibilities. If you want better put SP1 that has less incompatibilities, and you are more secure anyway from not having SP at all

Im also thinking too Messenger Plus for 7.5 etc that one worked for everybody even that didn't have any service pack installed or installed so it might just be a little tweak somewhere that's hard to find but once u find it it fixes that one problem.

It is sure something minor i believe, and if Patchou finds it, he will release a fix for sure.

yup it sucks that this happened to some of the people like me but im patient i can wait till Patchou releases a fix for it hell i  got use to no color in my name for a long time haha when i first installed windows live beta when it was in beta stages what's a couple more days gonna do to me hehe.

Installed Windows Live Messenger 8.0.0792 + Messenger Plus! Live on two computers (Windows XP Pro SP2 with all latest patch and Windows MCE 2005 SP2 with all latest patch) and MP! L won't load.

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Originally posted by - DCA -
Humm, as Nick2k6 said...

I think the problem is with Service Packs, right?

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Hehe yeah we are used in waits you see, some days more can't do any harm, or they can
Hmm Darken try to use the 787 edition  and see if it works. I think Windows MCE has incompatibilities with Plus Live. Try it on Windows XP. If it doesn't work, then SP2 might not be the suspect, we will see.

@ Nick2k6 : thanx for the reply, but I don't want to downgrade my stuffs for just play with this addon...

Yeah My WLM can detect live plus!!
By the way i have face the same problem with u all, but once i uninstall the MSN messenger plus version 3, then the live plus automatic can detect after i restart messenger!
Install Live plus whould not overwrite the MSN messenger PLus version 3, so we have to uninstall it in our own.
hope that this help for u!

nope that solution didn't work either.

Would just like to say it works on latest msgr build here on a vista beta 2 install.

I uninstalled everything, cleaned the registry ... and nothing

yeah same here just did that too all we can do now is wait till patchou sees this thread and knows what's wrong.

i am having this problem
everytime i try to use any of the in-chat features like the instant sounds it wont let me why is this ?

Same problem as above restarting msn reinstalling plus and reinstalling comp doesnt help.

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Originally posted by GiBraiNe
I uninstalled everything, cleaned the registry ... and nothing

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ive tried just about everything deleting everything to do with msg and every plug in, ive even tried it on both sp1 and sp2 on winxp still nothin I NEED MY PLUS! my messenger is incomplete without it!! lol ive become addicted to it and ya know how druggies get when they dont get their drugs

You'll like it when you get it, I love it!!1 *cough*

Yes, I was typing msgPlus commands in WLM for the 2 months I used it without. heh...

ksyeoh i unistalled messnenger plus 3, but again no change. Apart from that couldn't be a problem. As long as Msgplus.exe process is not on, Messenger plus 3, is like it's not exist, so that couldn't lead to conflicts with Plus Live. Apart from that Plus Live is running with another way, not like Plus 3, as i can see.

same problem, i have windowx xp with SP 1 , and no style xp ............ ToT

What i discovered is in the folder for interface or scripts there both blank just those folders with no files in it being blank is the cause of Messenger Plus not being able to run properly.

Just thought, try checking the NT error log @ control panel -> administrative tools -> computer management

edit: oh just saw the fix above
editedit: theyre blank here and it works fine. maybe not.

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Originally posted by MenthiX
To everyone who has this problem:

Could you guys post some more info?

• What version of Windows?
  
• Which service pack installed (if you know)?
  
• Exact version of Messenger?
  
• Do you also have other Messenger versions installed/running except Live Messenger (MSN Messenger?)
  
• Do you use any other Messenger plugins/addon?
  
• Do you use and visualization software like StyleXP, WindowBlinds or any other "themeing software"?
  
• Do you use any kind of antivirus/firewall/antispyware that could be blocking things, which?

Please answer these questions as much and as detailed as you can so Patchou can try to find a fix for this.

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oh hmmmm then i don't know what is missing from making it load i mean it's not a service pack problem as now 2 or 3 more sp 2 or even 1 or none have the same problem so yeah hmm it's a mystery all right.

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Originally posted by doug2k2
What i discovered is in the folder for interface or scripts there both blank just those folders with no files in it being blank is the cause of Messenger Plus not being able to run properly.

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at poster "really having trouble," you need msn version 8, and can find out servicepacks and exact version with windowskey+pause|break

I already have Windows Live Messenger, or MSN 8.0... And no, I cannot find out what "servicepacks and exact version with windowskey+pause|break", because I don´t know how too, and practicly didn´t understand the underlined part.

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Originally posted by Kero-chan
I already have Windows Live Messenger, or MSN 8.0...

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Originally posted by Techboy__

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Originally posted by Kero-chan
I already have Windows Live Messenger, or MSN 8.0...

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Ah, your OP said 7.

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Well i can't try to fix it myself haha i got no more ideas or suggestions left on what it can be i got all the required files installed maybe patchou will know what is happening.

Did any of you check the error log like I suggested above?
As for the "underlined part", hold the key on your keyboard with the windows logo and then press the "Pause|Break" key. It'll open system properties. that lists version and service packs.

Yeah i checked the error logs and nothing at all about messenger plus in it.

Techboy, what key are you talking about??

Kero chan he means the windows button that should say start on yours like mine and then after scroll lock there's pause break u press those two and it'll pop up the system properties box.

i was wondering could the virus scanner that is built into live be blocking plus!live????

First off, yeah, doug2k2 got it. Second off, sniper944, no, it isnt, because it works here.

It's a error that just doesn't wanna give the information fully haha it doesn't show itself in the error logs so i dunno haha

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Originally posted by 5n1p3r944
i was wondering could the virus scanner that is built into live be blocking plus!live????

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Originally posted by doug2k2
Kero chan he means the windows button that should say start on yours like mine and then after scroll lock there's pause break u press those two and it'll pop up the system properties box.

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then right click on "My Computer" and go to properties, it does the same.

hmm that's weird another way to see the system properties is right click on your  my computer and go properties then it'll still dot he same thing. I'll try disabling my anti virus for now too and see if that makes Messenger Plus work. Nope still the same error.

to people who are currently expriencing this problem: please send an email to *** and I'll work on that with you. The cause is probably a software installed on your system that causes Plus! to fail loading (I may be able to fix it when I see what it is exactly).

Edit: got enough emails to diagnose the problem already, thank you

dun-dun.

k patchou sent u a email

Ok, I'll do that then.

Am so disappointed. Had to go back to 7.5

Just let know when a better version will be out..ugh

i have sent a post in the new topic about its public release about a MAJOR problem i am having if you want patchou i will mail you about it and we can try and sort this out because i a not the ony one having this problem

bee_honey, mal agradecido ... haz tu propio software y no vuelvas ¬¬

Patchou, any specific info in the email? So I will send it too.

I hope we find the damn conflicticiuos software and a new MPL could be released very soon

nothing specific, just remind me it's about this problem.

been_honey: this is most likely caused by an incompatiblity with another software installed on your system, it's not directly a bug in Plus! although I'll do my best to go around it .

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Originally posted by GiBraiNe
bee_honey, mal agradecido ... haz tu propio software y no vuelvas ¬¬

Patchou, any specific info in the email? So I will send it too.

I hope we find the damn conflicticiuos software and a new MPL could be released very soon

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Originally posted by GiBraiNe
, mal agradecido ... haz tu propio software y no vuelvas

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don't worry, I'll release an update soon to fix these kinds of annoying problems. On the millions of people using Plus!, this was bound to happen to some of them .

ok

On a whim.. try downloading from:
http://msgplus.ikhost.net/MsgPlusLive-400.exe

what's the difference?

k patchou i sent you another email with the stuff you needed

patchou i know you are working hard and everything.. but i thought i would address this issue with the head of command here

i have not been a pluss user for a long time but in the short ammount of time i used plus! 3.63 i grew to love it like i love msn itself

i have tried to download plus live almost everywere but no matter what it does not let me use the functions... the only thing it lets me do just now is look at it

i cant change my name colour
i cant send auto sounds
i cant open any of the little icons in the chat bar
my personal status auto message does not get sent when someone starts a convo with me
my quick texts dont work


as you can see this is almost every feature of Plus! Live i cannot use

if anyone has a reason to why this has happened please let me know because i have posted in the help threads and when i went into the actuall help chat it was only people needing help there and a few people with the same problems.

also when i downloaded the file from the official site my antivirus detected multiple trojans inside it (i dont know if they are there for a reason or if someone has leached them to the download link but i thought i better tell you)

pm me if you have a soloution to the problem and i will be sure to tell others with the same problem as me

Panzer: please send me an email and we'll see about that. Also, make sure you're not running any patch (and if you had patched Messenger, please to reinstall WLM)

Update!

I may have found at least one reason that would explain the not loading problem: you need Windows XP SP1 or above to run Messenger Plus! Live 4.00. This will be fixed in the next update but in the meantime, I strongly encourage anybody using Windows XP without any service pack to udpate (at least for the sake of their system).

Strange, i got SP1 and i also cant run the new Messenger Plus!

i have SP1 on my system but but still it isnt working!!

Thanks patchou for the file you sent me by email it now works fully even on a non service pack windows xp im using

Ehm, what file? ..If it solves the problem could u then upload it Patchou? ..

Sandman, you have to send an e-mail to Patchou, he will help you.

hmm details please or irc please, where there are many people making little sense

patchou i cant send an email cause i dont know your address as it is now been ***'d

P.S i have opened a thread for people with the same problem (or close to it) if you could take the poll and maybe post in it with your specs i am sure this would help patchou instead of his email box getting flooded

Like patchou said you must send a email to him he gave out his address and he'll fix you on your way no matter what service pack you have or don't even have one. All i need to figure out now if it's possible to get the says in color too.

What version of Windows?

Which service pack installed (if you know)?

Exact version of Messenger?

Do you also have other Messenger versions installed/running except Live Messenger (MSN Messenger?)

Do you use any other Messenger plugins/addon?

Do you use and visualization software like StyleXP, WindowBlinds or any other "themeing software"?

Do you use any kind of antivirus/firewall/antispyware that could be blocking things, which?
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windows XP

Possible SP1 installed

Final . 8.0.0792.00

No have nothing other version installed

Dont use other Plugin

no have programs of Theme

Antivirus: Mcafee Virusscan 10.0/Mcafee Firewall plus 7.1 / Spybot1.4 and microsoft Antispyware BETA1

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Plus Not loaded
some error

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Thanks

Sorry patchou but, I installed de plus Beta 4  and loaded correct

But now i Installed Public  version of plus Plus not is loaded in start of WLM


sorry , i am brazilian, dont have um good english

Well, whats his adress then?!

Well, in page 9 he edited his post saying that he got enough e-mails to diagnosticate the problem so, we just have to wait.

can anybody post patchou eemail

Yeah he'll post a fix for you to download since he knows the problem now and then it'll all work.

You forgot to say that we hope that.

Alot of people with no clue on IRC. Will there be a release with the "fixed" version soon or what? :z

Doesn't matter to me all that much, but still.

Come on somebody pls post it up i cant wait iam adicted to msg plus!

Well I'm using XP with the latest MSN LIVE version and no SP installed. I hope there is a way to get it to work, I read about some file by patchou, I really hope it works cause I don't really wanna work without the plus pack, it gives it so much more than just the plain Messenger Plus...

I hope for news! thanks

they fixin it now... mmm will work on non SP comps i hear... cos i dont like SPs

what is the ETA of the fix build ?
will it fix the problem of not being able to use functions ?

Yeah doesnt work for me either...same problem

Windows XP Pro
SP2 Installed
WLM 8.0 Build 787
I dont have any other messenger clients or addons installed
Im using WindowBlinds for skinning
i dont have a firewall / anti virus installed so nothing is blocking it

I also noticed, there is no actual executable now, its all dll based

I didnt notice any startup entry anywhere for MPL..?

how does MPL run at startup?

it starts when WLM starts

4.00.235 just released

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Originally posted by Panzer Dragoon
it starts when WLM starts

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Originally posted by no gun
4.00.235 just released

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works just fine, i just installed it.. thanks a bunch patchou!!

http://www.msgpluslive.net/download/

lol, you're faster than me .

Because of the nature of the problem I decided to releae a small update immediately, this should take care of the problems reported in this thread. Keep in mind though that there are many reasons why Messenger Plus! may fail to load, even with 4.00.235 you may still get the message if somethign else prevents Plus! from hooking the functions it needs. If that's the case, please create a new thread and try to find what software may be the cause of this.