I've noticed when I have tabbed chats minmised and another contact sends a message, the last contact I was active with is flashing rather than the one that just sent message.

Apart from that it is working great! 

It's allready known. But cheers anyway.

This has been annoying me too!

I talk to person A, then talk to person B. I have 2 tabs, A and B. After talking to B, I give focus to another app, and then person A sends a message, and in the taskbar it looks like person B has sent a message.

Where is this being discussed?

This is a normal behaviour in Messenger Plus!, this prevents chat windows to switch automatically if you were reading something else.

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I remember that in old Plus! for MSN7 there is an option named "Auto activate Tab"(maybe not that but no matter the name), maybe we could do it like this:
When chat window is focused(we are reading something or typing), new coming message will not be switched, when we are doing other thing and chat window not focused, activate the new coming message. If it is possible to do that, that maybe perfect

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I met another bug: Turn on tab chatting function,  open A window then open B window, now press WIN+D to minimize all windows, you'll see window title on taskbar changed to the first opened window A! This bug can recur every time with newest release Plus! and Live Messenger 787. Could you please take a look at this?

Thanks a lot for such cool extension! Thanks thousand times

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Originally posted by Patchou
This is a normal behaviour in Messenger Plus!, this prevents chat windows to switch automatically if you were reading something else.

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Originally posted by Patchou
This is a normal behaviour in Messenger Plus!, this prevents chat windows to switch automatically if you were reading something else.

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Thats nice but I want it to flash to the person who has actually just replied though then i can quickly reply to them

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Originally posted by Patchou
This is a normal behaviour in Messenger Plus!, this prevents chat windows to switch automatically if you were reading something else.

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Sorry to bring back an old thread, but is there any fix for this? Script?

No, there is no fix for it as it is intended behaviour as Patchou explained.

Yes, I find it also a bit 'annoying' (if I can use that word) that the flashing taskbar button doesn't show the contact which last messaged me. However, I would find it extremely more annoying when tabs would switch automatically (as that will be the consequence of implementing this).

Also, when you see the taskbar button flashing and you click on it, it is very easy to see who has written the new message by the colored tab. So it is not like there is no way to determine who wrote last either...

Related: the behaviour shown in Plus!3 with switching tabs was the cause of extremely many annoyences and bugs and what not, hence why it was not included anymore.

"it would be nice for the taskbar tab corresponding to the tabbed conversations changed title to match the name of the contact with a new message."

reply: "The auto switching (wich is the only way to switch taskbar buttons/names) has been taken out for a reason. Main reason is the window might change and you don't notice...and end up sending the message (or file) in the wrong conversation.
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but i'm suggesting only a title change, not auto tab change



that sub option is a complete no, unless it only changed if the window is not selected.

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Originally posted by roc
1st:
I remember that in old Plus! for MSN7 there is an option named "Auto activate Tab"(maybe not that but no matter the name), maybe we could do it like this:
When chat window is focused(we are reading something or typing), new coming message will not be switched, when we are doing other thing and chat window not focused, activate the new coming message. If it is possible to do that, that maybe perfect

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Originally posted by OldSchool
This guy is spot on, I don't remember what it was called, but the ONLY time my window changed was when it was not the active window.  I never had a problem with windows switching on me when it was active and another msg came in.

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I would love this to be re-added as I have had this new version for 4 days now and am already highly annoyed.

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Sorry I was not clear, I am 'highly annoyed' with the fact the window becomes top to bottom of the screen on my laptop when someone on my team decides to ask the group a question, as I previously stated.  Maybe that was hard to figure out after reading my entire post....

You are right, the one extra click doesn't bother me too much, nor take that much extra effort, however I waste time clicking it to see it is a friend wanting to chat when I am busy, when before I could see that in the task bar before and ignore them.   A minor thing really in the larger picture.

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Originally posted by OldSchool
Sorry I was not clear, I am 'highly annoyed' with the fact the window becomes top to bottom of the screen on my laptop when someone on my team decides to ask the group a question, as I previously stated.  Maybe that was hard to figure out after reading my entire post....

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I know what I am about to suggest is not so easy, but, it would be a really nice thing thought^^

How about a system where you give someone a priority, if the focus is on someone with a high priority the tab wont switch automatically.

The Tab wont switch when you have the focus on any window.

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How about a system where you give someone a priority, if the focus is on someone with a high priority the tab wont switch automatically.

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Originally posted by roc

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I met another bug: Turn on tab chatting function,  open A window then open B window, now press WIN+D to minimize all windows, you'll see window title on taskbar changed to the first opened window A! This bug can recur every time with newest release Plus! and Live Messenger 787. Could you please take a look at this?

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I guess it should be nice if WP!L flashes last active contact on status bar and switches on it.. ONLY if the message window is not in foreground.
Maybe this could be done by scripting.. if I only had time & knowledge to manage them...

Cheers
Ruspant

I too liked the old method of the tabbed chats and didn't have any issues.....but of course looking at it from a programming point of view is very different to mine!

I do often think....ah "John" has sent me a message, click on it, ah no I was last talking to "John" it's in fact "Sarah" and so on....

Also, are there any plans for the tabbed chats to display the Nickname rather than the name the person is currently.....some people of course insisit of having whole sentances as their name rather than their actual name so this would be a great feature too.....or is there already and i've missed a checkbox?

Cheers!

Jamie

Hate to flog a dieing horse, but I ventured all the way into these forums JUST for this feature so here's my 2 cents...

1st, I would definitely rank this problem above "a little bit annoying" if perhaps not "highly annoying". Yes, it's easy enough to open the minimized window and see who wrote you but that's not the point. Doing so interrupts whatever you're doing and that makes it "quite annoying" <--- (new level to ponder)

Let's say you're at work, you have 3 or 4 contacts in a tabbed chat (very useful feature) that you definitely want to respond to if they write back. Maybe coworkers, your sick wife, I dunno, you get my point. You also have a dozen other contacts who might write you that you will get back to AFTER you finish what you're doing.

Then someone writes you... The taskbar flashes and you spare a quick glance down from what you're doing to see if it's someone worth interrupting your workflow for. You see your co-worker's name (cuz he was the last one you were conversing with prior to minimizing) so you abandon your train of thought, click on the bar only to find... it's your annoying cousin who wants help with Company of Heroes strategies (great game btw). Boom, your workflow is interrupted.

Sure, it's only 1 more click but it's all about the flow. Under the old system (I was one of those who used the old Tabbed chat in 7.5 with ZERO problems) If I was engrossed in something, be it work, a game, watching a movie or whatever... a quick, 1/2 second glance at the taskbar was all it took and I could carry on uninterrupted. Now I have to draw my attention away, pause what I'm doing, move the mouse, click the button and THEN make the decision to read/respond or not. Repeat this process a dozen times when you're busy with something and see how annoying you find it! Sure I could just set my status to "appear offline" but that's not the point, there are many many situations where you would like to remain focused but are willing to stop for certain individuals.

As a previous poster suggested, the ideal solution is: When minimized, flash the last person to message you. When open, keep attention on the active tab.

Can we all agree this is the best FUNCTIONALLY? I realize it had problems in the last release, but it WAS working for many. So if we can all agree that is the best way it SHOULD work (from a feature point of view) than perhaps it is worth the effort to resolve the bugs some people experienced rather than cripple the feature.

This is easy for me to say, I'm not a programmer or investing time into developing Plus but regardless, the Tabbed Chat feature may be a deal breaker for me. As MS keeps adding features Plus has had for years, Plus has to stay one step ahead to remain useful. This is bugging me enough that I'm sticking with 7.5 for now, but that will only last so long until the next version of MSN has something interesting enough to force an upgrade.

Sorry for the length and thanks to the hardworking people who make Plus a reality. This is not a rant, just a suggestion that you might want to re-prioritize this "intentional bug".

Justarius

ruspant, TheCorm, Justarius,

See my script in my previous post to accomodate some of those issues. The script will change the caption of the taskbar button when a new message is recieved.

However, the script is highly experimental and was only created as a test and proof of concept. As such it does not work 100% as you might expect (but it might be good enough):

"CookieRevised's reply to Tabbed Chats - wrong contact"

Import the script and go to the Plus! icon menu in the onctact list or in a conversation and enable "Tabbed chat taskbar button changer".

Thanks CookieRevised, it's a start. At least we know who the sender is, before we restore the tabbed chat window.

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Originally posted by ruspant
I guess it should be nice if WP!L flashes last active contact on status bar and switches on it.. ONLY if the message window is not in foreground.
Maybe this could be done by scripting.. if I only had time & knowledge to manage them...

Cheers
Ruspant

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