[Joke] [Release] Open Window Notification - Printable Version -Shoutbox (https://shoutbox.menthix.net) +-- Forum: MsgHelp Archive (/forumdisplay.php?fid=58) +--- Forum: Messenger Plus! for Live Messenger (/forumdisplay.php?fid=4) +---- Forum: Scripting (/forumdisplay.php?fid=39) +----- Thread: [Joke] [Release] Open Window Notification (/showthread.php?tid=62423) [Joke] [Release] Open Window Notification by Stigmata on 07-03-2006 at 02:17 PM
UPDATED: DOWNLOAD NEW VERSION - BUG FIXES RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by Volv on 07-03-2006 at 02:39 PM
Disclaimer: I take no responsibility for any false information within this post RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by craig2k5 on 07-03-2006 at 02:40 PM lol wow fantiatic lol RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by loppasuu on 07-03-2006 at 02:52 PM AAAAAAAAAAA++++ would buy again RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by xJ + on 07-03-2006 at 02:56 PM Brilliant script I would say. (: However, there's one particular problem. Whenever I open a conversation with another contact, I will also receive the notification even though he didn't open the conversation window. RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by Voldemort on 07-03-2006 at 03:32 PM Haaaaaaaaaaahahha nice RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by Lou on 07-03-2006 at 03:37 PM Very Reliable, Good job Just kidding this ir probably just random I didn't even download it RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by alexp2_ad on 07-03-2006 at 03:37 PM
EDIT: oh, er, I mean... excellent script Stigmata, can't believe you managed it with the scripting engine. Good job. RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by Veggie on 07-03-2006 at 03:38 PM
I cant belive you made this!!! RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by saintgtril on 07-03-2006 at 04:12 PM
what about the close window notification? (i.e. contact XXX has left the conversation) is it included in it? RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by absorbation on 07-03-2006 at 04:16 PM wow, I mean wow. Some great coding stiggy as always and this detection method your using is the best we have ever seen it is 98% accurate now . RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by Stigmata on 07-03-2006 at 04:18 PM
yeah i know... like every 123456 milliseconds it just throws out a random one... RE: RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by saintgtril on 07-03-2006 at 04:24 PM
quote: are you sure? *doubtful*though i like to have this functionality, but i have to admit to the fact that it is not accurate at all RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by albert on 07-03-2006 at 04:24 PM There. RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by Thor on 07-03-2006 at 04:44 PM Well, cool script! RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by absorbation on 07-03-2006 at 04:57 PM @ Three6Mafia, this thread is a joke one, designed to trap noobs into thinking the script is relible . It is a joke script, look at the posts, everyone has bene playing along . RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by qgroessl on 07-03-2006 at 04:59 PM about time somebody made this.... just to give in to everybody that asked eh RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by Veggie on 07-03-2006 at 05:01 PM
quote:teehee RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by Thor on 07-03-2006 at 05:03 PM
Well, reliable... No, just kidding. RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by Three6Mafia on 07-03-2006 at 05:03 PM
HEY, i never asked for this ghey script, frankly it pissed me off in SPNG, i unlike most read the tons of thread regarding it... oh apart from hidden msgs RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by Stigmata on 07-03-2006 at 06:07 PM
i think i have a method of knowing when the conversation window is closed RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by craig2k5 on 07-03-2006 at 06:10 PM yeah the open window script is gr8 lol.... RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by Creeks on 07-03-2006 at 09:13 PM This is wonderful script thanks for it but it was showing offline friends too sometimes gonna crazy lol RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by cooldude_i06 on 07-03-2006 at 09:22 PM Wow, ingenious coding, I would have never thought of checking it like that!!!! RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by hmaster on 07-03-2006 at 09:25 PM great script RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by shajiby on 07-04-2006 at 09:31 AM
wow thanks!! quote: go for it!! RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by Bull on 07-04-2006 at 09:40 AM
Very good script. Can I made few suggestions: Strange, you are right borna. Can we have some explanation from the author about this ??? (i.e. : the code seems to be just a loop to display the toast) RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by Nathan on 07-04-2006 at 10:01 AM
THATS BECAUSE IT IS A JOKE RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by Bull on 07-04-2006 at 10:09 AM
RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by Felu on 07-04-2006 at 10:09 AM
quote: BTW Good script. Lots of buggies . RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by xJ + on 07-04-2006 at 10:11 AM
This updated of windows notification doesn't work that perfect like the previous version. RE: RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by alexp2_ad on 07-04-2006 at 10:16 AM
quote:Maybe they were appearing offline ha ha. RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by Volv on 07-04-2006 at 10:17 AM
quote: What an idiot Obviously that contact has you blocked or is on Appear Offline... RE: RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by alexp2_ad on 07-04-2006 at 10:19 AM
quote:Lmao, I love doing hidden text like that in plus. RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by Nathan on 07-04-2006 at 10:20 AM
its not hidden it is just coulored white RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by xJ + on 07-04-2006 at 10:22 AM
quote: quote:Nope.. I doubt so. Cause lots of offline contacts 'opened' the conversation and I have checked with some of them, they are not even online nor appearing offline, and they didn't even block me.. And quote:I hate 'hidden' words... EDIT: to alexp2_ad (read below of my post) (hate posting another post just to reply).. I just highlight and clicked q quote, thus your name appeared instead of the other member's name. Sorry. And, yeah, I agree it's crap.. Especially this updated one.. Edit 2: Just noticed something ironic with the updated script. I added myself, and the notification showed that I've opened a conversation with myself. Everyone knows that if one adds oneself on the contact list, it'll be directed to the send e-mail page on the browser when double clicked, isn't it? Edit 3: bug found again.. This time it's even more ironic. When I appeared offline, the notification still shows that there're contacts opening conversation with me.. It's really a JOKE ... However, I like it.. RE: RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by alexp2_ad on 07-04-2006 at 10:24 AM
quote:That wasn't originally posted by me! And btw, read the thread, this script is a joke, it doesn't really check when people open convos, it just tells you when you do and pops up a toast saying a random contact has every 123.456 seconds... RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by Stigmata on 07-04-2006 at 11:24 AM
yep the script was a joke RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by linx05 on 07-04-2006 at 11:30 AM
lol I for one found it funny. It delivered everything you guys wanted, a non working window open notifier. What are you all complaining about!?!?!?!?! RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by xJ + on 07-04-2006 at 11:35 AM
quote: Lolx. I love it though. didn't you read my post carefully (the last part) RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by linx05 on 07-04-2006 at 11:39 AM You fell for it big time. Now what I think about people wanting the WON feature is true. It was proven! RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by Stigmata on 07-04-2006 at 11:39 AM Linx05: he did RE: RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by emeed on 07-04-2006 at 12:28 PM
quote: The only thing proven is the mental age of some anti-WON ppl. This is just sad. RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by Plik on 07-04-2006 at 12:41 PM
i thought the script might be dodgy, so i checked the source straight after i downloaded it quote:Why's it sad, are people not allowed to have a joke? Just people you people fell for it <3 Also, i wouldn't define it into pro-WON and anti-WON, i'd say more "people who want an unreliable notification" and "people who realise its unreliable and realise that it is pointless because it is unreliable" RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by linx05 on 07-04-2006 at 01:11 PM
quote:It proves to me that you WON fanboys (I like to call them fanboys) will think it is 'working' even when the errors are done on purpose. One of the funniest threads ever! Now every time someone asks for the WON feature I will point them here. RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by tacos_burritos on 07-04-2006 at 01:22 PM How about instead of wasting time making a fake WON, you actually spend that time wisely and create a real one that works... RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by Plik on 07-04-2006 at 01:42 PM
quote:Because as has been discussed a bazzilion times, currently there is no way to make one that is reliable If you want it so bad code it yourself, what anyone else does with their time is up to them. Coders arn't slaves, they code what they want, not what you people demand. In short, code one yourself or stop bitching! RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by emeed on 07-04-2006 at 02:23 PM
I'm not going to argue this, it's been said before and if you don't want to understand then there is nothing I can do about it. RE: RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by linx05 on 07-04-2006 at 03:23 PM
quote:It seems like you are? quote:Use MessengerDiscovery Live. quote:Look at the source, it says it is a joke. I think it is funny because it does the exact same thing we've been saying and you all praised Stigmata for making the script. quote:What do you think Cookie and the rest of us are trying to do? We give out the facts proving it won't work but we still (yes still) get posts telling us that their way will work. Trust me, it won't. quote:We're all laughing at you. And the fun won't be over for me anyway. I'll keep this bookmarked. RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by emeed on 07-04-2006 at 04:44 PM
Yes, keep circumventing the question. RE: RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by CookieRevised on 07-04-2006 at 06:25 PM
quote:no, most people want an open window notifier! It is only by our doings that some people start to realize there is no such thing as a windows open notifier. But still most people do not know this and want a window open notifier, not an "open session notifier". quote:No indeed..., unless the thing you once had only existed because a certain developper was beeping tired of all the whining of the people because he had removed it in his plugin once it wasn't realiable anymore. People couldn't accepted that it didn't work anymore and that was the one and only reason why you had such a thing in the past (after it was prooven it didn't work anymore). quote:No, that's actually called a fact. No developper here apparently wants to create such an open window notifier or even an open session notifier as all developpers here know it will be misinterpreted anyways, and the whole misconception starts over again, just as a couple of years ago. If you still want it, I'd suggest to make it yourself.... quote:Although I didn't fully agreed with what has been done here, it clearly prooves a few things: 1) People think they know something about something, while in fact they don't know a thing. So how are they even going to 'know' what a false notification is or what a good one is? Because they say they can? Sorry, I don't believe this for one bit. 2) Even after posting big threads, warnings, explanations on several forums (thus I'm not only talking about the Plus! forums, but about every messenger related forum in existance) many people still believe in such open window notifiers. 3) People will too often post "wow thanks, works perfectly" while they didn't tested it at all (happens in A LOT of other threads too btw, but it's hard to proof of course). quote:All of "us" who already where serious into development back then when the notifiers actually did work, have experienced first-hand that educating people on this subject is NOT easy at all. In fact, this recent upspring of this issue has prooven that once again. If it was 'easy' to convince people about this, nobody would even think about asking for a open window notifier anymore. If it was 'easy' we wouldn't be here discussion this... What do you think I tried to do in that other thread? But noooooooo, if someone even tries to educate people and say why something doesn't work, all of you start calling them a lier, full of BS and what not... yeah, sure it's easy.... quote:I'm not laughing at this, nor was this script made with my knowledge or even with the slithest suggestion from my side! I have absolutely nothing todo with this... Who is being biased you said?.... - So in the end: If you want it, make it yourself or find someone who wants to spend time in making it for you. Lots of info about packet sniffing on various messenger related forums, including source code, etc... And before you repeat yourself, let me do it for you: "For the love of everything that's secret, I'll shut up now".... RE: RE: RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by emeed on 07-04-2006 at 10:20 PM
The biggest problem for ppl is the name. It was called a windows open notifier and no mather what you tell ppl. At the end of the day (s)he opens preferences and sees WON on it. There will always be dummies. I think it's wrong to remove such a wanted feature and it could be dealt with in another way. quote: Sorry but I was going from what was told on page 5. quote: Creating a packetsniffer is not easy. Not even for a real coder. Biggest problem is that you have to use other ppl's huge sdk's only to filter out a port and value. Unless you create it yourself from scratch but I ain't even going there. It would be so much easier if one of the devs made it because they already know what and where. I am looking at it tho. Problem is that I'm an engineer and not a programmer. I can get my stuff but getting it in a compact program is a real challenge. RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by Stigmata on 07-04-2006 at 10:48 PM
quote: Fact is: this notifies you when a window is opened. Therefor it has every right in being called "open windows notification". Although it does throw a random notification every 123.456 seconds. Also, let me start you in the right direction. VB6 MSN Messenger Packet Sniffer: http://pscode.com/vb/scripts/ShowCode.asp?txtCodeId=53191&lngWId=1 What you are looking for: the "RNG" packet. This is sent when you are invited to the switchboard. it looks like: quote: * The first parameter is the session ID of the new switchboard session. Every switchboard session has a unique ID, and each principal invited will use the same session ID. You will need this for authenticating with the switchboard. * The second parameter is the colon-delimited string for the address and port (has always been 1863) of the switchboard. * The third parameter specifies the type of authentication, which should always be CKI. * The fourth parameter is an authentication string that you will need when authenticating with the switchboard. * The fifth and sixth parameters are respectively the account name and the URL-encoded display name of the principal that invited you to the switchboard session. More Info: http://msnpiki.msnfanatic.com/index.php/Switchboa...d_to_a_Switchboard Basically you could just search for this packet, then raise a toast saying the 4th parameter has started a conversation with you. good luck RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by linx05 on 07-04-2006 at 11:27 PM
quote:I do know what I am talking about. Trust me, I had to learn about the whole 'open, closed' session when I was modding at the StuffPlug forum so as to tell people how it wasn't accurate. Sorry Cookie RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by ivy on 07-05-2006 at 05:07 AM
here is my two cents RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by Three6Mafia on 07-05-2006 at 06:06 AM
or. RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by Stigmata on 07-05-2006 at 07:45 AM
quote: One problem is with the introduction of windows live messenger, you can view display pictures in the conversation window. So when you were to come online you could possibly get a toast for every contact on your list saying they have opened a conversation with you. RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by tacos_burritos on 07-05-2006 at 02:42 PM OMFG is it that hard for someone to just frickin convert the msn 7.5 script to WML, jesus christ even if people argue it isnt reliable just do it to shut em up, it can't take too long i bet. RE: RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by Three6Mafia on 07-05-2006 at 02:54 PM
quote: HAHA talk a bout n00b, ya cant even refer back to page 1, its been done MATE! as best as one could work, oh and i must say if i wanted to know when i open a conversation with myself or other wise its an awesome script, it tells me when i opened a convo with some one ne whom i hated the whole notify on convo open, so ghey and just makes u look like a tard when someone open it and ur like "haha u opened my window" and they be like "yer and...... go fuck ya self cont, watch me close it now!" RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by -Buffy on 07-05-2006 at 09:00 PM
1. i am stupide not to read the last page entirly before downloading RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by riahc4 on 07-05-2006 at 11:22 PM
quote: It doesnt work in 7.5 This is my suggestion: Let a thread that explains why exactly Open Window Notification scripts cant be made and pin it. And any thread made asking for that gets closed and redirected to that pinned thread. Period. End of story. RE: RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by -Buffy on 07-05-2006 at 11:55 PM
quote: i know but the plugin does RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by cloudhunter on 07-06-2006 at 02:57 AM
It doesn't work reliably, as in there are false postives. I agree with them in that, but if people want to make it let them, no matter how futile it may be. Although it can't be done simply in the scripting engine. RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by -Buffy on 07-06-2006 at 09:22 PM
can someone tell me how to get the script off again, its bugging be big time, thanks a lot I am not so fast in these things sorry RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by CookieRevised on 07-06-2006 at 11:43 PM
Go to your Plus! preferences and remove the script. Simple as that.... RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by bradrobbo on 07-07-2006 at 02:26 PM
quote:You missed out:- "people who realise its unreliable and realise that it does still tell you when someone opens a window with you, however it ALSO gives you wrong NOTICEABLE information sometimes due to DP's etc" KTHNXBAI RE: [Release] Open Window Notification by Lou on 07-08-2006 at 05:32 PM It is not only unreliable, it is practically random. This hasn't worked since quite a while ago, and because it's a breach of privacy in a way, I seriously doubt it will ever work again RE: [Joke] [Release] Open Window Notification by winter13 on 10-15-2006 at 04:45 AM
This stuff only shows window notifications at random!!! RE: RE: [Joke] [Release] Open Window Notification by jmccarroll on 10-15-2006 at 04:49 AM
quote:LOL!! I don't even know where to start ... Read through the thread a little bit. RE: [Joke] [Release] Open Window Notification by NanaFreak on 10-15-2006 at 04:52 AM
its a joke script!!!!!! quote:do that so it wont anoy you any more RE: [Joke] [Release] Open Window Notification by Matti on 10-15-2006 at 06:52 AM
quote: RE: [Joke] [Release] Open Window Notification by vaccination on 10-15-2006 at 10:04 AM
I can't believe the amount of people that believed this. ¬¬ RE: [Joke] [Release] Open Window Notification by Stigmata on 10-16-2006 at 08:51 AM
quote: Just because you are jealous and this really shouldnt be in t&t its a script. RE: [Joke] [Release] Open Window Notification by pascalnouma on 10-23-2006 at 10:59 AM
quote: You have right! This script is shit RE: [Joke] [Release] Open Window Notification by NanaFreak on 10-23-2006 at 11:03 AM
quote:ZOMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111!!!ONEONE!!!11111 this is a joke script look at the name quote:just STOP DOWNLOADING IT PEOPLE AND READ THE THREAD RE: [Joke] [Release] Open Window Notification by Stigmata on 11-13-2007 at 05:02 PM
I recieved this the other day via email: quote: hmmm :/ RE: [Joke] [Release] Open Window Notification by Matti on 11-13-2007 at 08:05 PM
quote: What are you going to do now, Stiggy? RE: [Joke] [Release] Open Window Notification by linx05 on 11-14-2007 at 01:08 AM
quote:Improve the always working script of course RE: [Joke] [Release] Open Window Notification by pkzild on 10-09-2008 at 01:32 AM
dude I dont know if it's just me, and I dont wanna go through 2938402830984 pages of posts, but this script is still buggy as hell... what's with the notification popping up so randomly... it even said my other email msn that I have on my contact list (which isn't even online at the time) has "opened conversation" with me.... RE: [Joke] [Release] Open Window Notification by tony on 10-09-2008 at 01:52 AM
quote: RE: RE: [Joke] [Release] Open Window Notification by pkzild on 10-09-2008 at 02:54 AM
quote: oh wow, I just thought joke was a username or something.... how foolish of me... then where is the REAL script? does it exist? RE: [Joke] [Release] Open Window Notification by Th3rmal on 10-09-2008 at 04:49 AM
quote:It does exist, but it is in no way reliable and hence useless. |