Version 1.20 released! Adds a menu and a command to toggle the script on and off, as requested by Chris4

Notes: The command is "/nbtoggle".

Download here:

Current: NudgeBack 1.20

Old: Version 1.10 released! Fixes a bug that developped when I upgraded to messenger 812.

Download here:

Old: NudgeBack 1.10


Original post
Hi, just a small script. More complex than it looks though

Whenever someone sends you a nudge, it will automatically nudge them back. Thats it

I thought i'd get a release out of the way, and then fix the bugs i've found later.

Known Bugs:

• Using Polygamy, when you recieve a nudge it will nudge the person on both accounts. This is due to not being able to distinguish which packets belong to which WLM instance. However because of the fact that if you don't have them on your list you can't nudge them, it wont nudge unless they are in your list.
  
• When a nudge is recieved during a group conversation, a new window is opened with the person who sent it, and a nudge is sent in that window.

Good script... but my god what would happen if two people had it and did it?

I thought about that It has a timer in it, and if the time between the contact sending the nudge is less than 5 seconds, it wont nudge Simple but effective.

Cloudy

could you make it so it autonudges... but say with a 5 or 10 second delay? after your contact nudges you, or somewhere to set that

I can't see the sense in this auto nudgeback, If you nudge someone and you don't get a response that simply means that the person might just step away from the machine without setting the status to away or just wants to ignore you. Why would you want to send a nudge back?

Confuse people

Thanks cloudhunter for making the script!

hi,

i don't understand, the script cannot be started

nice script Cloudy

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Originally posted by lrac522
I can't see the sense in this auto nudgeback, If you nudge someone and you don't get a response that simply means that the person might just step away from the machine without setting the status to away or just wants to ignore you. Why would you want to send a nudge back?

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Originally posted by artfuldodga
could you make it so it autonudges... but say with a 5 or 10 second delay? after your contact nudges you, or somewhere to set that

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Originally posted by BrendanL
nice script Cloudy

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I've just discovered a bug in my script... Can anyone confirm if my script works on WLM 812?

I think I have a possible fix, but I don't know how elegant it will be.

Cloudy

Confirmed.

It won't work for me in WLM 8.0.0812.00

i have WLM 812 and it isn't working

it doesnt work for me either with the new version of WLM - looks like a bit of a problem. 

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Originally posted by artfuldodga
could you make it so it autonudges... but say with a 5 or 10 second delay? after your contact nudges you, or somewhere to set that

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Originally posted by Dave
edit: or maybe he means wait for 10 seconds and then nudge them, i'm not quite sure which

This post was edited Today at 05:58 AM by Dave.

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I'm using WLM 812 Cloudy and it works for me but me and my friend tested it. We both had unlimited Nudges and your script so I nudged him, he nudged me back with your script, it kept nudging back and forth for about 2 to 3 times but then stopped. Shouldn't it keep going since it's suppose to automatically send a Nudge when a Nudge is received?

I think he said it has flood protection BrendanL.

oh I see.

Well I found the problem. It seems since 812, it wont work at least not with yahoo integration. I haven't tested that but that could be the problem.

The problem was, is that traffic is no longer exclusive to the port i was sniffing. It now sends some of the data through port 80.

I've updated the script to check for the message on both ports and to send a nudge.

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Originally posted by BrendanL
I'm using WLM 812 Cloudy and it works for me but me and my friend tested it. We both had unlimited Nudges and your script so I nudged him, he nudged me back with your script, it kept nudging back and forth for about 2 to 3 times but then stopped. Shouldn't it keep going since it's suppose to automatically send a Nudge when a Nudge is received?

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Great script

Nudgeback isn't working with me... I suppose it could be that thing about the 812...

Version 1.10 released!

Fixes a bug that develloped when I upgraded to messenger 812.

File attached.

At first wouldn't let me use that ^, said their was an error importing the script. Then I tried removing Nudge Back (old version) and it said it couldn't. So I had to exit WLM and delete the \Scripts\Nudge Back\ folder.

Then I imported it and works fine
Works fine, thanks

Thanks! Glad it works

Any feature requests/configuration options anyone want?

Cloudy

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Originally posted by cloudhunter
Any feature requests/configuration options anyone want?

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Should be simple to add will get right on it.

I'm still having problems. When importing the script WLM freezes and I have to terminate it. Anyway when I open it again the script has been imported and all the files are in the folder but it still doesn't work so I opened the debbuging window and this was there in the nudgeback debbuger

Script is starting
Error: Error 10022 in function WSAIoctl(SIO_RCVALL)
Invalid argument.
       Line: 9. Code: -2147418113.
Script has failed to start

What's happening?

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Originally posted by Zeh
I'm still having problems. When importing the script WLM freezes and I have to terminate it. Anyway when I open it again the script has been imported and all the files are in the folder but it still doesn't work so I opened the debbuging window and this was there in the nudgeback debbuger

Script is starting
Error: Error 10022 in function WSAIoctl(SIO_RCVALL)
Invalid argument.
       Line: 9. Code: -2147418113.
Script has failed to start

What's happening?

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I already tryed 5 times. Does anyone know what that error message is?

Try closing messenger completely, then going to "C:\Program Files\Messenger Plus! Live\Scripts" and deleting the NudgeBack folder. Then try to reimport.

Cloudy

That's what I did because I can't remove it in the Plus! menu. I can't even remove the folder with WLM on it has to be closed and then I can remove the folder. It's actually the only way I can remove it.

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Originally posted by Zeh
That's what I did because I can't remove it in the Plus! menu. I can't even remove the folder with WLM on it has to be closed and then I can remove the folder. It's actually the only way I can remove it.

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Originally posted by cloudhunter
Try closing messenger completely, then going to "C:\Program Files\Messenger Plus! Live\Scripts" and deleting the NudgeBack folder. Then try to reimport.

Cloudy

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As I said I already did all of that like 5 times.

imported for me fine... after i removed the previous version (had to stop the script... shut down messenger, to remove it from the script list though)

New version released!

New features:

• A menu to toggle the script on or off.
  
• A command to toggle the script on or off. The command is "/nbtoggle".

Nice new version
Great work.

Good Job

1.20 Nudgeback doesn't seem to work. Oh well.

It works with other people. Make sure to close msn, remove the script fully and then import it.

Why didn't you just contact me on msn?

Cloudy

It won't import for some reason. I don't know how to import it. Normally the Messenger Plus! import window thing comes up and asks if you want to import the script but when I got the NudgeBack 1.20 script the import window didn't come. It's ok, I'll just use Nudgebakc 1.10.

It still crashes WLM when I import and still doesn't work when people send me a nudge.... I tryed all 3 versions and none of them work.

no idea... maybe you have a security software thats catching the script before anything can be done with it.. messes it up

i haven't had a problem with any of the versions, dispite the apparent bug that was in it..

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Originally posted by Zeh
It still crashes WLM when I import and still doesn't work when people send me a nudge.... I tryed all 3 versions and none of them work.

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Nop I don't have any scripts that use Xniff.

Suggestion:

Could a settings dialog be made, where we can select which contact we would like to Auto Nudgeback?

That way, we dont' annoy the more important people on our lists

hang on, how do you install this most recent one?  It opens a zip file, and then what do i do?

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Originally posted by Dave
hang on, how do you install this most recent one?  It opens a zip file, and then what do i do?

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Originally posted by Zeh
It still crashes WLM when I import and still doesn't work when people send me a nudge.... I tryed all 3 versions and none of them work.

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Originally posted by Dave
hang on, how do you install this most recent one?  It opens a zip file, and then what do i do?

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Originally posted by CookieRevised

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Originally posted by krissyafc
when i clicked the link to get it it came up as a winrar so what do i do once i click the link

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1. Download the file.
   
2. Make sure the file extension is .PLSC. If not, rename the extension to .PLSC.
   
3. After that, make sure Plus! Live is running and you're signed in
   
4. Then double click on that file you just downloaded (with the PLSC extension).

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Originally posted by CookieRevised

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Originally posted by siemprebuenoo
i can't unistall it i don't know why its saying :
the script directory couldn't be deleted
some files may be opend or locked.

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All scripts which use an ActiveX DLL (or OCX) are locked. This is because that external ActiveX object is loaded in memory when the script starts. As long as that DLL or OCX is loaded, you can't fully delete the directory (you can delete every file, except that DLL or OCX file).

To uninstall such scripts:

1. Disable the script in Plus!Live
   
2. Close Messenger completely
   
3. Navigate to the script's directory and find the ActiveX DLL(s) or OCX(s).
   
4. For each ActiveX DLL or OCX, unregister it. This can be done with the Windows command regsvr32:
   Start > Run > cmd > regsvr32 "c:\path_to_script\activexfile.dll" /u
   
5. Delete the whole script directory

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Update: I've just tried it with another computer connected by wireless and I have a similar error. My guess it's a wireless problem, but I can't do anything about it since the Xniff ocx I use isn't mine...

Cloudy

Maybe that's my problem. I use wireless at my place.

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Originally posted by Dave
hang on, how do you install this most recent one?  It opens a zip file, and then what do i do?

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I think IE sometimes just gets it wrong and tries to download it as the wrong file type... You just have to try again as far as I know. Try clearing the cache sometimes as well (Press ctrl-F5 to do a refresh of the page)

*Alexp2_ad - Beat you to it Even if your reply is probably better

EDIT:  *points up*  yes you beat me, but your answer is wrong... IE will always download PLSCs as zips on the forum, it doesn't from wel setup sites (like the script database) because the server is setup right.

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Originally posted by Dave

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Originally posted by Dave
hang on, how do you install this most recent one?  It opens a zip file, and then what do i do?

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finally, i've got it to install.  has anyone got any ideas as to why it might have been trying to open it as a zip file - are there some settings i need to change? (Using internet explorer version 6, if that matters)

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Originally posted by SpunkyLoveMuff
I think IE sometimes just gets it wrong and tries to download it as the wrong file type... You just have to try again as far as I know. Try clearing the cache sometimes as well (Press ctrl-F5 to do a refresh of the page)

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Originally posted by Dave
morons at microsoft...

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Originally posted by SpunkyLoveMuff

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Originally posted by Dave
morons at microsoft...

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Trying not to go off topic... but:

Try making an OS on your own

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Back on topic... any feature requests?

Cloudy

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Originally posted by artfuldodga
Suggestion:

Could a settings dialog be made, where we can select which contact we would like to Auto Nudgeback?

That way, we dont' annoy the more important people on our lists

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I'll see what I can do! Although I have no idea how to go about this, as i'm not too good with arrays >.<

sweet, thanks.

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Originally posted by Zeh
I'm still having problems. When importing the script WLM freezes and I have to terminate it. Anyway when I open it again the script has been imported and all the files are in the folder but it still doesn't work so I opened the debbuging window and this was there in the nudgeback debbuger

Script is starting
Error: Error 10022 in function WSAIoctl(SIO_RCVALL)
Invalid argument.
       Line: 9. Code: -2147418113.
Script has failed to start

What's happening?

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Originally posted by Geo

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Originally posted by Zeh
Error: Error 10022 in function WSAIoctl(SIO_RCVALL)
What's happening?

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I have the same problem....i don't understand

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i just tested the latest version of NudgeBack (the one with the toggle menu), and it failed (nothing happened - that's with the most recent version of WLM too.  i checked it was on, and toggled it twice just to make sure.  Has anyone got any ideas, or anyone else experiencing similar problems?

Do you have a wireless connection?

no, i don't

What does it say in the debug console?

Cloudy

no error messages, just a truckload of    'Function called: OnEvent_Timer', lightly sprinkled with a few   'Function called: OnGetScriptMenu'  and 'Function called: OnEvent_ChatWndSendMessage'

none of this looks error messeage material, but i may be wrong

I should probably use a different method than a timer, as it kind of spams the debug window.

Either way, there is nothing I can do to fix your problem Dave, as I have no idea what is wrong. My guess it is something to do with the DLL that sniffs the packets, which I did not create.

Cloudy

Edit: PS, the "whitelist" is coming along fine Is anyone interested in the reverse? Where only contacts you add to the list don't get nudged?

um, I don't think you should use reverse just

check the contacts you want to nudge, the ones not checked.. it won't.

Well i'll include both, as some people wont like going through all their contacts one by one.

Cloudy

oh well, maybe i'll try a few of the older versions to see if they work.

Ok I downloaded new drivers for my wireless to see if the script started working. It didn't, still crashed WLM when importing or reactivating. But I don't think it's the sniffer fault, if it was the /nbtoggle would be avaliable but the script would respond to nudges, in my case the script doesn't even add that command to my list of commands. So my guess is that the crashing and the not working are caused by the script itself rather then the xniff incompatibility with some wireless conections(wich don't seem to affect everyone, it depends on the drivers and I just got the latest to my adapter).

I can't see why it would be the scripts fault, it has worked fine on most peoples machines, apart from the wireless issues. But if the DLL fails to load properly for any reason, the script wouldn't work anyway, so that is why it wouldn't show the menus etc as the script is halted.

In the next release, i'll add a catch statement to show if it failed to load the DLL. Just got to get my head around all these arrays for the new features >.<

Cloudy

I had WLM crash when I tried to use Xniff when Xniff was being used by another script... try disabling any others that use Xniff.

I don't have any other scripts that use Xniff. Have you already updated your adapter to the latest drivers alex?

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Originally posted by alexp2_ad
I had WLM crash when I tried to use Xniff when Xniff was being used by another script... try disabling any others that use Xniff.

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But i don't think I have any other scripts using Xniff. The ones I have active are: AutoChange Avatar; Birthday Reminder; DPGet; Enhancer; Live Notifier; RSS reader; Who's online. I know Live notifier uses packet sniffing but it doesn't use the actual Xniff.ocx. So It is not a conflict between scripts trying to get sole access to the Xniff. And I already updated my wireless adapter drivers to the latest so what else can it be?

Well try disabling Live notifier and installing it. The methods could be "colliding" somehow.

Cloudy

Well yeah one of live notifier sniffers could be trying to sniff something that xniff does too and they conflict with each other. Good theory. Gonna try it.

Edit: Nop. That isn't it. It still crashes, the command still doesn't appear in the list and I still don't auto nudge back.

Very strange, I'll see if i can add a catch to the code and inform the user if the dll informed to load.

Sorry about the recent lack of activity, i've not been online.

Cloudy

please update the links, I'm really looking forward to using this

great script keep up the good work

great script,...but doesnt work with the latest beta

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Originally posted by snAke_LeAder
great script,...but doesnt work with the latest beta

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i'm pretty sure it was working for me, but i removed the script... and i can't download NudgeBack 1.20, link is broken

can somebody post a link to that version?

Hello,

I also need to link to version 1.20.

Thanks,

BraydenP.

*nudge

somebody must have this script saved post a link please, or direct me where it is in the scripts database.

shure here is the download

thanks , script stillworks for me using latest public beta of WLM.

i think this script needs to be updated to work with WLM 8.1 Final.

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Originally posted by artfuldodga
i think this script needs to be updated to work with WLM 8.1 Final.

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Dosnt work on wireless (apparently )
I take it thats xsniff problem.