That's right as some of the people who were beta testers of the Windows Live Messenger 8.0 know, today the beta testing of the next version of WLM which is the version 8.1 started.

I'm beta tester and got my invitation to this test, I downloaded it and installed it not before take off the plus for better results, but when I reinstall the plus, the menu plus didn't got added nor any of the features so I thought it would be a good idea post this topic so Patchou could consider a compatibility with this version 8.1 in a future release.

For now I returned to the version 8.0.0812 of WLM so I can have my messenger plus live working too.

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Originally posted by dbgarza
For now I returned to the version 8.0.0812 of WLM so I can have my messenger plus live working too.

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If invitations were sent out to WLM 8.0 beta testers then why haven't I received one?

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Originally posted by markee
How are you supposed to test it if you aren't sing 8.1? And anyway you shouldn't be using any add-ons or plug-ins while bet testing something as it could impact on finding problems (or you might find problems that are actually problems of the add-in).

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yup, only us butterflies got invites so far.

you also got an invite if you were on the Yahoo Interop beta

i don't see any issues at all, i've put it through the tests and haven't seen any problems with it so far, other then plus being incompati

I rather care about what's new in this 8.1, like
"is the nickname feature  improved" and
"is it now possible to bring back the group block feature in MP!L"

New so far

Roaming DP (allows you to keep the same display pic on any computer you use)

New Location feature - you can add your address and you can set it to show as your personal message, which will then open up Local Live, and show you a map of the area.

Backgrounds and DP selectors have been modified. - certain bugs exist within it though... i've already logged em.

Contact cards have been changed so you do't have to flip the card anymore to view extra info.

some bugs have appeared in the Shared folders journaling service, these have been logged i believe.

to the original poster.

you call yourself a beta tester? its not about whether you can run Msgplus live on it, so grow up, the whole point is to find as many bugs as possible before adding additional software to it, so as to fix as many of them as possible before RTM.

imo.

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Originally posted by Underlord
If invitations were sent out to WLM 8.0 beta testers then why haven't I received one?

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Originally posted by ~Bkitty~

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Originally posted by Underlord
If invitations were sent out to WLM 8.0 beta testers then why haven't I received one?

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UPDATE:  Microsoft have only sent out invites to Windows Live Butterflies,


from" Msgaddict"..posted by Salem


http://msgaddict.

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I didn't receive an invite but it has been leaked on many sites already so there isn't really a need for an invite if thats always gonna happen.

And the roaming DP feature means M$ has bought more harddisks? LOL

For those wondering:

Yes it has been leaked.
Yes you can use it without being a beta tester.
No plus doesn't work with it.
No, Reshacking the build number doesn't make plus work with it, you'll have to wait for an update.

for ne1 wondering,
no you can't use the leaked version without meeting certain requirements.

such as being activated to use protocol 14, and im not saying how....

Through the yahoo thing?

hahaha, well i've just learnt something else.

the only way any of you guys is gunna be able to use this is if someone makes a protocol changer they've improved security on this beta

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Originally posted by yourmama_20
hahaha, well i've just learnt something else.

the only way any of you guys is gunna be able to use this is if someone makes a protocol changer they've improved security on this beta

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For anyone that applied to the Yahoo Interprob Beta will have Protocol 14 Access and i'm sure most people will have this. And i thought with a recent Messenger build all were updated anyway. And the security on obtaining a beta has never been good and this is certainly far from it, the previous beta was better protected than this.

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Originally posted by markee

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Originally posted by yourmama_20
hahaha, well i've just learnt something else.

the only way any of you guys is gunna be able to use this is if someone makes a protocol changer they've improved security on this beta

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How so?  I can say that it is possible to at least sign in with an account that isnt activated to use the beta and also send messages.  Can you give me more information on how exactly I'm meant to be restricted?

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Yer i dont understand why we lose all our emoticons, could be because of the change to the layout of the Emoticons panel that it clears them but im sure there is a much more technological reason for it

yeah its pretty much it.. still, they could've allowed an importer to bring over the custom smileys...

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Originally posted by yourmama_20

to the original poster.

you call yourself a beta tester? its not about whether you can run Msgplus live on it, so grow up, the whole point is to find as many bugs as possible before adding additional software to it, so as to fix as many of them as possible before RTM.

imo.

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I am about to install it. Emoticons don't bother me too much, i have too many anyway and now i can add only the ones i want.

you can use msn backup without going back to 8.0.. the problem lies in the changes to how the object data is stored

it'll likely get fixed in the next build

(ie it'll port over the old data during the install... hopefully)

I didn't lose my custom smilies . Then again, I also installed the 8.1 Beta along side my 8.0. Just renamed my 8.0 program files folder, installed 8.1, then moved my 8.1 folder to another hardrive. Viola, no loss of anything . Oh, and I can sign in (altho it is much slower than 8.0).

Hmmm it seems to have rearranged my DPs in the change DP box. All still there just rearranged and in no visible order.

EDIT: happened with my emotes as well, they are all still there as well.

EDIT 2: Well it appears a few have dissapered but not many.

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Originally posted by vaccination
Hmmm it seems to have rearranged my DPs in the change DP box. All still there just rearranged and in no visible order.

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this is odd, I just installed 8.1 over the 8.0 and all my emoticons, extra winks and backgrounds are all there in 8.1

And I think I know why I didn't lost my smilies, is a pretty useful trick, when you use MSN Backup to save your emoticons, winks, display picture, etc. the program saves all this in files with .MCO extension, yes, that's right the extension of the MSN winks.

when you restore this backup you will notice that none of your contacts can't add your smilies to their msn, since it appear like if you bought them and were installed like you install the winks, so I think WLM 8.1 tought that my smilies were bought or something and didn't deleted them.

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Originally posted by dbgarza
this is odd, I just installed 8.1 over the 8.0 and all my emoticons, extra winks and backgrounds are all there in 8.1

And I think I know why I didn't lost my smilies, is a pretty useful trick, when you use MSN Backup to save your emoticons, winks, display picture, etc. the program saves all this in files with .MCO extension, yes, that's right the extension of the MSN winks.

when you restore this backup you will notice that none of your contacts can't add your smilies to their msn, since it appear like if you bought them and were installed like you install the winks, so I think WLM 8.1 tought that my smilies were bought or something and didn't deleted them.

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your hunch would be correct. (more then likely)

i would suppose if you delete them now, they will stay that way from now on.

has any of you noticed that changing the background )with auto colour choose enabled) sometimes doesn't change the gui colour properly?

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Originally posted by yourmama_20


has any of you noticed that changing the background )with auto colour choose enabled) sometimes doesn't change the gui colour properly?

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Originally posted by vaccination

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Originally posted by yourmama_20


has any of you noticed that changing the background )with auto colour choose enabled) sometimes doesn't change the gui colour properly?

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Yeah, for me it seems that depending on what colour the background you are changing to and what the auto colour is supposed  to be depends whether it changes or not.

If the new background is too far of a different colour it doesn't seem to change properly.

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Originally posted by yourmama_20

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Originally posted by vaccination

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Originally posted by yourmama_20


has any of you noticed that changing the background )with auto colour choose enabled) sometimes doesn't change the gui colour properly?

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Yeah, for me it seems that depending on what colour the background you are changing to and what the auto colour is supposed  to be depends whether it changes or not.

If the new background is too far of a different colour it doesn't seem to change properly.

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well thats a known about issue

what im referring to is slightly different

for instance, i have 2 backgrounds
1 changes the gui to a blueish colour and the other makes it purple

when i set the 1st background it changes to the bluish gui. but if i change to the next background, it changes the gui to purple for about 2 seconds, then sets it back to the blue 1 from before.

if i then click on the 2nd background again in the list then it sets it to the purple gui permanently, i get the same bug going back to the blue gui'd background.

i've also found that you get a similar issue when going from a static background to a dynamic background

if i select a static background, then go to a dynamic one, it goes back to the static one within 2 seconds... if i then click the dynamic ine again a second time, it selects it and it stays at the dynaminc bg.

meh.. anyways.. i've logged it.

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ahh finally.

btw, do you have the plus menu still on the main messenger window... maybe they are linked somehow... other people aren't getting the issue...

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Originally posted by yourmama_20
ahh finally.

btw, do you have the plus menu still on the main messenger window... maybe they are linked somehow... other people aren't getting the issue...

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ok good to know they aren't connected

BTW

GOOD NEWS!

the emoticons being missing in 8.1 IS A BUG!!! YAY... .. that means that it can be fixed in the next build!

any connect testers here can validate at
https://connect.microsoft.com/feedback/ViewFeedba...=197740&SiteID=273

vaccination are you a connect or managed tester?

if not, i'll validate it and link to your post.
(regarding the Background and GUI issue)

so are we getting a Plus fir 8.1 beta, or do we have to wait for the final?

Apparently from what ive read Patchou is going to release an update for 8.1 Beta. But i CAN confirm this (Not botherin with quote but read down below .

the reason why emoticons are going missing, are becoz of changes to the object data store (the folders on your cmputer where they are all stored)

its not moving the old folders properly

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Originally posted by yourmama_20

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Originally posted by markee

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Originally posted by yourmama_20
hahaha, well i've just learnt something else.

the only way any of you guys is gunna be able to use this is if someone makes a protocol changer they've improved security on this beta

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How so?  I can say that it is possible to at least sign in with an account that isnt activated to use the beta and also send messages.  Can you give me more information on how exactly I'm meant to be restricted?

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nvm, my info was wrong,... damn newbies on the beta newsgroups spreading wrong info...

anyways, i just hope you all know that by using the new beta you lose all your custom smileys

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Originally posted by 85thday
so are we getting a Plus fir 8.1 beta, or do we have to wait for the final?

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well on connect.microsoft.com, it is still 'pending', maybe cause I'm a Belgian, and I speak Dutch, so I need to wait for a localized version of the program

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Originally posted by Shadow
Apparently from what ive read Patchou is going to release an update for 8.1 Beta. But i CAN confirm this (Not botherin with quote but read down below .

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Originally posted by Patchou
The beta version of Windows Live Messenger 8.1 has been made available to private beta testers for about a week now and more and more people are asking for a compatible version of Messenger Plus!. I can happily say that Messenger Plus! Live 4.10 (previously labelled 4.02) is currently in the work and will be entirely compatible with the new Messenger, however, I do not plan to release this version before at least another two weeks. The main reason for that delay is very simple: the current beta of Messenger 8.1 is extremely unstable and brings nothing really new to its users. I encourage all of you to stick with version 8.0 for now, you’ll feel much better without a Messenger that can crash every 5 minutes during a chat .

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Well I downloaded Windows Live Messenger 8.1 and ran into my first brick wall. I Blocked someone from my list Then Unblocked them a few hours later. Now every time i log on i get ******@hotmail.com Would like to add you to His/Her Contact List (Even know they are already Added)

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Originally posted by IchiTehkillah
Well I downloaded Windows Live Messenger 8.1 and ran into my first brick wall. I Blocked someone from my list Then Unblocked them a few hours later. Now every time i log on i get ******@hotmail.com Would like to add you to His/Her Contact List (Even know they are already Added)

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