Is there any way of creating a game by script which is Rock, Paper, Scissors?

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Originally posted by EnglandBoyForLife.
Is there any way of creating a game by script which is Rock, Paper, Scissors?

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It isn't so easy at all though...

Not if you want to take in account the very easy way of cheating with this.

Threads about this exist, which also began with "it's dead easy". The cheating problems with implementing this kind of games is also discussed there.

hmm yes the cheating idea...hmmm how about a lttle message blocker til both users have done !RPS <rock,paper or sissors>
Then it sends them
if its possible

How is the game to be played, between 2 users or between the user and the computer?
I have a solution for either. The solution lies server side
For single player, pulse whether the user selected r,p or s and make the server select a random item as well, apply the rules and voila.
For 2 players, its more complicated. I have an idea but its long. Long story short, pulse what both users have selected to the server and tell it to decide who won

If you dont know who pulsed it, you dont know who wins. No cheating
So, what do you think?

Nice idea, but isn't it take too much of the computer, John Anderton?
Because you need to make, in the "single player mode", the computer "choose" one opition, without a sequence pré-defined and, on the "2 player mode", you gonna need to have the 2 comp. syncronized as I could see...

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Originally posted by elektra
hmm yes the cheating idea...hmmm how about a lttle message blocker til both users have done !RPS <rock,paper or sissors>
Then it sends them
if its possible

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Originally posted by John Anderton
How is the game to be played, between 2 users or between the user and the computer?
I have a solution for either. The solution lies server side

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how about storing the recived command in a variable until the local user sends theirs or visa versa

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Originally posted by Baggins
how about storing the recived command in a variable until the local user sends theirs or visa versa

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Originally posted by SpunkyLoveMuff
However, in my ChangeMe! script, when the user receives a request to change the dp (when approve is on), their message isn't shown in the chat window until the user has clicked the yes or no option on the msgbox. Just a though to how it could be done

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This isn't at all finished yet, but it's somewhat functional, and proves that this concept can work. Both participants need the script, and all commands have to be sent via the Plus menu in the conversation window. But it works.

I haven't specifically tested this yet, but I am pretty sure it will break if you try and have more than one game going at once. Anyway, enjoy for now, i'll let you know when it's finished

It doesn't solve the cheating problem....

It is easy to alter the script slightly to make it cheat and let you always win.

If anyone is lame enough to alter the script so they can win every time, then good on them for it. I hope they are proud of their l33t hax0r skillz.

Seriously, that's just stupid. For the rest of us, who want to have a fair game of RPS, I hope you enjoy this.

And yes, I plan to make it more user friendly, with commands and stuff, rather than this whole Menu thing. I'm not going to stop working on it, just because Cookie doesn't like it.

IMO you would be better off making a script for the likes of Connect 4 as it doesn't require having the messages show at the same time and is still easy-ish to make.

Ok. What about something like this.
Me and cookie are in a convo.
I click the rps script and select R (say)
Cookie, (who does have the script) is asked for his choice.
These choices are pulsed online and the script sends a confirmation of the person's choice (if needed )
The result is pulsed back to both of us (and we can see a toast) but my client says out the result in the chat.

What this is doing is,
A) Taking results
B) Online verification as to whom sent the data ie the rps game was between me and cookie so the results come back to us.
C) Both of us get the results as a toast so we know who won without any cheating. Even if i edit my script (ie the script on my client), cookie is still getting the same result so i can't cheat

What do you say cookie? I could make this but just not before the end of the scripting contest since i have my exams Maybe after them unless someone else is working on the script (in which case there are a few ideas for checking that which game is between which 2 people )

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Originally posted by The Brain
If anyone is lame enough to alter the script so they can win every time, then good on them for it. I hope they are proud of their l33t hax0r skillz.

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Originally posted by The Brain
I'm not going to stop working on it, just because Cookie doesn't like it.

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seriously, what's up lately with reading stuff which isn't there?

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Originally posted by John Anderton
Ok. What about something like this.
Me and cookie are in a convo.
I click the rps script and select R (say)
Cookie, (who does have the script) is asked for his choice.
These choices are pulsed online and the script sends a confirmation of the person's choice (if needed )
The result is pulsed back to both of us (and we can see a toast) but my client says out the result in the chat.

What this is doing is,
A) Taking results
B) Online verification as to whom sent the data ie the rps game was between me and cookie so the results come back to us.
C) Both of us get the results as a toast so we know who won without any cheating. Even if i edit my script (ie the script on my client), cookie is still getting the same result so i can't cheat

What do you say cookie? I could make this but just not before the end of the scripting contest since i have my exams Maybe after them unless someone else is working on the script (in which case there are a few ideas for checking that which game is between which 2 people )

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
eg: a php script (or whatever) on a server. Or even a third contact for that matter (a bot?) which recieves the input from all players.

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Ok let me clear this up....

The end point is that in a two player only version of any game using scripts will be open to cheating because at some point either personA will have to send their choice before PersonB sends his choice and by doing that PersonA will be transmitting a packet to personB and thus PersonB could sniff that packet and read the info even though it doesnt show in his chat window yet.

What you could do would be:

Person A chooses Rock and encrypts a package with MD5 containing "password1Rock" and sends it to Person B

B acks A's packet

B sends A a packet with md5 encryption containing "password2Paper"

A acks B's Packet

B sends A a packet with his password
A decypts B's first message and outputs his result

A sends B a packet with his password
B decrypts A's first message and outputs his result

If results are different someone cheated. (and if you didn't cheat, the other guy did so you should go play with someone else)

If results are equal A and B declare the winner for this round.

How can you cheat that Cookie?

Have fun!

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Originally posted by Deco
Ok let me clear this up....

The end point is that in a two player only version of any game using scripts will be open to cheating because at some point either personA will have to send their choice before PersonB sends his choice and by doing that PersonA will be transmitting a packet to personB and thus PersonB could sniff that packet and read the info even though it doesnt show in his chat window yet.

What you could do would be:

Person A chooses Rock and encrypts a package with MD5 containing "password1Rock" and sends it to Person B

B acks A's packet

B sends A a packet with md5 encryption containing "password2Paper"

A acks B's Packet

B sends A a packet with his password
A decypts B's first message and outputs his result

A sends B a packet with his password
B decrypts A's first message and outputs his result

If results are different someone cheated. (and if you didn't cheat, the other guy did so you should go play with someone else)

If results are equal A and B declare the winner for this round.

How can you cheat that Cookie?

Have fun!

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I'm in the middle of making it

Post it as soon as it's ready!

see [Release] RockPaperScissors - "Uncheatable"


Next time, please don't make multiple threads in cases like this, even if it is for releasing something.

Stuff said in the original thread might (and almost always will) be repeated in the new thread, etc...

As a matter of fact, people already requested for info on the how and why of the method you used in that new thread, forcing you (or anybody else) to repeat what has already been said here.