Hello everyone,

I want to inform everyone NOT to install the beta version of Windows Messenger 5 currently available on the web.. it's very buggy, Messenger Plus! doesn't work with it (yet) and it could damage your Messenger configuration for ever except if you now how to repair to proper keys in your registry.

Please take this message seriously, thank you!
Patchou

Hey Patchou why don't you stick that at the top of this forum?

* Mnjul wants to know why lots of people want to test Messenger 5, since nobody invites them and they have few ways to get contact with Micro$oft to tell the bugs.

Thanks   Whens the full version released

thnx Patchou! i had almost click the link yesterday, but i didn't had the time to download it... so thnx for the information.

I don't know what all this talk about the new Windows Messenger 5 is.. I must be living under a rock. Can someone please tell me what I'm missing out on here? lol, sorry.
I do have MSN Messenger 5, but that's not the same, or is it?

Some screenshots from ieXbeta.com: http://www.iexbeta.com/comments.php?id=216&catid=5

and the Review is somewhere on Neowin.net, i guess...

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I don't know what all this talk about the new Windows Messenger 5 is.. I must be living under a rock. Can someone please tell me what I'm missing out on here? lol, sorry.
I do have MSN Messenger 5, but that's not the same, or is it?

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i downlaoded it the other day i think, and its fine, and messenger plus runs on it perfectly.

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Originally posted by Spiff
I don't know what all this talk about the new Windows Messenger 5 is.. I must be living under a rock. Can someone please tell me what I'm missing out on here? lol, sorry.
I do have MSN Messenger 5, but that's not the same, or is it?

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**** censored by administrator... nobody needs to download it ****

Info and download.

Basically its the same (even worse) than Windows Msgr 4.7

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I never got around to downloading it I think I'll be sticking with MSN messenger 4 for a long time yet

I nEeD hElP uSiNg ThIs ThInG :\

Ouch, censored by admin? ok... sorry then

WM5 is ugly and buggy as hell, it doesnt let you invite your contacts into a conversation properly

yea, and u cant switch back to version 4.7 in some cases

lucky me, i never experienced WM5...
and i will never experience it to!

oh no! i installed messenger 5 already. HELP!

Just set it not to run when Windows starts or in the background, and use MSN Messenger 5 instead...... That's what I did, and it doesn't cause any trouble....

I still think that if messenger can screw up configuration files, they should not release it until it is thoroughly fixed. I've stuck with the old windows messenger [4.7 or 4.8]. I always do this until I know that the new version is fine.

Microsoft didn't release it to the public, it was sort of leaked....

ok, im confused, i have messenger 5.0.0543 and plus! works fine with it. am i missing something here?

whats the difference between windows messenger and msn messenger? apart from the obvious.

Nothing i think

well i have msn 5 and msn plus and it works fine...i don't know what you are talking about!

Ok...
MSN Messenger 5 with Plus!2 works perfectly.
Windows Messenger 4.6+ with Plus!2 works perfectly
MSN Messenger 4.6~4.7 with Plus!2 works perfectly.
Windows Messenger 5 WILL WORK with Msgplus. Not yet.

Windows Messenger is the MSN Messenger version that comes bundled with XP, that with the release of MSN Messenger late last year was sort of replaced by many users by MSN Messenger 5. Windows Messenger 5 is the new version of that different client, which previously were very similar, but now WM is more business-oriented providing access to other services than .Net (standard messenger). Still, Windows Messenger 5 is in beta and has not yet been released. Though, it will work with the next version of Msgplus, but we dont suggest to download it cause its very buggy. You should keep Windows Messenger 4.7 or MSN Messenger 5. If you are not using Windows Xp, then nevermind, you can't install Windows messenger.

But most of the people are using Version 5.0 of msn messenger...

windows messenger is the one that comes with windows XP rite?

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But most of the people are using Version 5.0 of msn messenger...

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Originally posted by sUnNiE03
windows messenger is the one that comes with windows XP rite?

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Help!
I installed Windows Messenger 5, and now I cant remove it.. just great. just great.    You can install 4.7, but when you restart, the setup automatically loads, anyone know where in the registry to stop this?

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Originally posted by imockyou
i downlaoded it the other day i think, and its fine, and messenger plus runs on it perfectly.

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Windows Messenger works under Windows XP and any newer version of Windows. MSN Messenger works under any Windows system (and there's also a version for the Mac).

The final Messenger Plus! 2.0 version will work with Windows Messenger 5.

dailo, I had the same problem as you did.... Windows Messenger 5 kept starting up, but that problem will be gone in the final Plus! 2.0 release. However, I still don't know of a clean way to go back to Windows Messenger 4.7, but I don't care as I have a version of Plus! that is "Windows Messenger 5 friendly". so I use MSN Messenger 5 now anyway.

i have messenger 5 but theres nothing buggy about it i dont get why you say its buggy

Let's get this straight.

MSN MESSENGER 5 WORKS PERFECTLY WITH PLUS. This is not leaked. This is not buggy (not buggier than the Microsoft standard, anyway). This is nothing to do with this thread.

WINDOWS MESSENGER 5 DOES NOT WORK WITH PLUS. This is illegally leaked. This is a beta and is extremely buggy. This is also the sort of thing you wouldn't just download without knowing it was leaked.

So if you have Windows Messenger 5 and it works with Plus, and it's not buggy, great, but uninstall it! If you have MSN Messenger 5, then Plus WORKS ALREADY. And it's probably not buggy.

And there's ALWAYS one with a huge avatar, isn't there? Your avatar takes up more space than the text!

I highly recommend to anyone who has installed *WINDOWS MESSENGER 5* :

Install A Small Program called Reg Cleaner 4.6 (can be found FREE on http://www.download.com, just search for Reg Cleaner)

Then select ALL registry keys with Windows Messenger, uninstall and clear the registry for MSN Messenger. This will clear you Registry with both of them. The all you have to do, via www.download.com again, is to install Windows Messenger 4.7, and MSN Messenger 5.0. Both of thses are stable, (cough cough) and will work with the lovely Messenger Plus! 2.

How Do I Work This

Hey guy what is the web site to download windows messenger5 beta for XP?

yeah, plus rulez!

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How Do I Work This

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Hey guy what is the web site to download windows messenger5 beta for XP?

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Originally posted by billywoods1

The admins will just delete it if anyone posts it... I'm sure if you really really really want it, it'll be on Google somewhere. Problem is, it's buggy and MP2 doesn't work with it.

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I highly recommend to anyone who has installed *WINDOWS MESSENGER 5* :

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Nothing i think

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Weeeeeeeeeelll..... i have Windows Messenger and i was wondering how to get the perfect one for MsgPlus. Coz wen i download it, it says you have got the wrong msn or i need to download this package, or i do not hav the administrator things or something. Do i need to be on the administrator user to download it and if i do will it work on mai user??

P.S PLEASE HELP MEE!!!!!!
LuV ElizzA..
P.S.S how do i use the emotes here???

Ty

Hey it says i need a setup package or something....my parents user has it coz it worked ther......im not the administrator.....do i hneed to be the admin

no wait it says i cant download it even when im a admin...help me plez

I just disabled MsgPlus (on WM5.0.0149 the beta that's out), but this is because I'm testing for MS and well.... I suspect that MsgPlus might have been crashing WM5. I'm willing (as I'm sure other testers) to work with Patchou to resolve issues like this in future versions of MsgPlus/WM5.


- Mig

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I just disabled MsgPlus (on WM5.0.0149 the beta that's out), but this is because I'm testing for MS and well.... I suspect that MsgPlus might have been crashing WM5. I'm willing (as I'm sure other testers) to work with Patchou to resolve issues like this in future versions of MsgPlus/WM5.


- Mig

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I downloaded it and just like IMOCKYOU said, it works fine. Plus! works on it and i haven't come up with any problems yet. Ive had it for awhile now and i haven't noticed anything at all. I thinks its ok to download so... yeah lol

i would NOT download windows messenger 5.0 it does NOT uninstall in windows XP. if you uninstall it, when u reboot it will install itself again. DO NOT INSTALL IT! Stick with msn messenger! 6.0 is coming out soon anyway!

according to Patchou, I wouldn't suggest using MSN Messenger 6 unless he finds some way to improve the compatibility.

http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=10719

Well, what if you already downloaded Messenger 6 but want to go back to to messenger 5??

Jeeky, if you are talking about MSN Messenger 6.0 and MSN Messenger 5.0, then you must first uninstall MSN Messenger 6.0 (from Start -> Control Panel -> Add/Remove Programs), then just download and install MSN Messenger 5.0 from http://messenger.msn.com. The latest version in there is 5.0, since 6.0 is still Beta software.


Thanks to lucky7 for pointing this out (see 3 posts below)!

thanx Sock

Does anyone know how to upgrade our MSN version???<sock>

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Jeeky, if you are talking about MSN Messenger 6 and MSN Messenger 5, just download and reinstall MSN Messenger from http://messenger.msn.com. The latest version there is 5, since 6 is still Beta software. It should override the installation of version 6.

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ummm ok.i wont....okey dokey....prefer Msn Messenger anyway

But i already have that

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Originally posted by sock
Jeeky, if you are talking about MSN Messenger 6.0 and MSN Messenger 5.0, then you must first uninstall MSN Messenger 6.0 (from Start -> Control Panel -> Add/Remove Programs), then just download and install MSN Messenger 5.0 from http://messenger.msn.com. The latest version in there is 5.0, since 6.0 is still Beta software.


Thanks to lucky7 for pointing this out (see 3 posts below)!

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i'm having hte same problem wick and it isnt on add/remove programs.  i dont know what to do now.  everything about msn messenger on my computer has been deleted but it still works on other peoples computers.  i dont know what to do now.  if anyone knows plzzz e mail me at:  scn18_luv5@hotmail.com
thank you
sarah

check mail in 10-15 minutes,will explain

looking at the screenshots, can someone tell me whats new? still think win messenger sucks ^_^

I have never even heard of windows messenger 5.0.....messenger 6.0 beta, yes *frowns*

thanks patchou

thanks for the warning

Dude what's all this talk about msngr5? i'm currently downloading 6

Dude what's all this talk about msngr5? i'm currently downloading 6

What you are donwloading is MSN messenger 6, not Windows messenger 5

I have had version 5 for a long time it has allways worked windows mess that is now msn 6 sucks.

dude 6.0 rules! and it works fine with the new plus

hopefully it will be released soon.

lol - a lot of ppl still don't get the difference here.

MSN Messenger 6 is for ppl to freely download and use as a chat client / file sharing client etc. by anyone anywhere - it features a lot of cutesy options like backgrounds, lots more emoticons, etc.

Windows messenger (currently working on Release candidate 2 (5.0.337)  Is geared more towards business users of the Micro$oft Exchange messaging service and Win NT/2K/XP Messaging capabilities that are going to be (supposedly) enhanced in Windows 2003 Server.

You cannot download and install Windows Messenger unless you already have it on your computer - I.E. it came with your version of Windows XP / Server 2003.

You *CAN* download MSN Messenger onto just about any computer running any version of windows.

And BTW, Patchou - know I am a newbie and all (at least here) but Plus! 2.20 runs great with RC2 .337.

One more sneaky thing - all people currently running Windows Messenger 4.x - if they try to "upgrade" now to Windows messenger 4.7, or try to find the MSN add-ins to extend functionality, like being able to check email, then they are directed to the new MSN Messenger 6.  Just for that reason alone I will not download and install MSN Messenger 6 - b/c a little hunting will show you the files are still intact on their servers and still available for download.

Thought you would like to know.

MSN Messenger will become 2 versions in the future, one for subscribers with more features, and one for normal people, known as the "lite" version.

u sure about that ?? 
i guess it wont matter ... plus will add the necessary we need ... mayb patchou will add the features in the subscribers version in plus for the lite version ( me the dreamer !! )

yeah windows mess 5 sux lol

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u sure about that ?? 
i guess it wont matter ... plus will add the necessary we need ... mayb patchou will add the features in the subscribers version in plus for the lite version ( me the dreamer !! )

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thats gonna be gay if they make it into 2 versions they'll prob stop adding new stuff to the 'lite' version but just fix bugs, but they'll do all new stuff for the subscriber meh, who cares, MSN 6 is good enough for me!

version 6 is plenty but what about the annoying " new version availabe " pop ups that we have to go thro as to when they do come up with next version .... n i guess it will come with a lot more adwares ... who knows it might also b an ad factory ...

just bug matty to make a newer version of his update blocker (if it doesn't work with new versions )

is this why msn 5 works fine for me but i get what i assume are pointer errors (memory address errors) when ever i try to open windows messenger 4.7 or after msn 6.0 logs in?

i dont get such errors ... i use both msn messenger 6.0.602 .. n windows messenger 4.7 .. i log into both n never have any problems  ....

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yeah windows mess 5 sux lol

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i dont get such errors ... i use both msn messenger 6.0.602 .. n windows messenger 4.7 .. i log into both n never have any problems  ....

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there is only one thing for me that would make me want to upgrade, the ability to sign in in 'appear offline' mode.  if i had that i'd have msn starting up on boot like icq