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Global climate change by lutonsteve2 on 01-22-2007 at 10:45 PM
How much damage are we doing to Global warming just by sitting here (or standing, if that's your thing) on the computer now?
Answers on a postcard 
RE: Global climate change by GiantSpider on 01-22-2007 at 10:48 PM
Shit loads, more if your in America obviously.
RE: Global climate change by lutonsteve2 on 01-22-2007 at 10:48 PM
Why's that?
RE: Global climate change by Chris4 on 01-22-2007 at 10:52 PM
And I have an Environmentally Friendly Computer
....
Ok maybe not.
RE: Global climate change by lutonsteve2 on 01-22-2007 at 10:53 PM
Is there such a thing
RE: Global climate change by GiantSpider on 01-22-2007 at 10:53 PM
Well, the USA is largest single emitter or GHGs. It's GHG emissions have also risen +16% between 1990 & 2004. Comparable to the UKs, which dropped by 14%
RE: Global climate change by Supersonicdarky on 01-22-2007 at 10:55 PM
We need to colonize the moon and mars cuz this planet is fucked. (seriously)
No one understands that tho. Everyone is ignoring the facts and is enjoying the last *cold* years before the planet is fried.
RE: Global climate change by GiantSpider on 01-22-2007 at 10:56 PM
It's ok, we can just live on boats, big bastard ones, and then eat lots of fish.
RE: Global climate change by lutonsteve2 on 01-22-2007 at 10:58 PM
Say that when half the world's population decide they don't want to die so flee over to higher-contours and to countries like The States and Eng-er-land.
I can't help but feel agonising pity for Bangladesh, THE most unfortunate nation on the planet because of all the geographical and demographic problems they will soon face.
This world ain't right 
RE: Global climate change by Chris4 on 01-22-2007 at 10:59 PM
quote:Yeah... and build Noah's Ark, then gather some animals
Originally posted by GiantSpider
It's ok, we can just live on boats, big bastard ones, and then eat lots of fish.
j/k <3
RE: Global climate change by kao on 01-22-2007 at 11:00 PM
quote:Not that boats would help against the sun.
Originally posted by GiantSpider
It's ok, we can just live on boats, big bastard ones, and then eat lots of fish.
Edit: Sorry, did you mean magical boats? Of course you did!
RE: Global climate change by Moo on 01-22-2007 at 11:02 PM
quote:Running a computer in America is the same as any other country.
Originally posted by GiantSpider
Shit loads, more if your in America obviously.
RE: Global climate change by lutonsteve2 on 01-22-2007 at 11:03 PM
That's what I would have presumed.
Bloody technology/materialistic/consumerism...
...our planet is paying the price.
RE: Global climate change by Chris4 on 01-22-2007 at 11:03 PM
Hmm, everyone can use their fridge and freezers as air conditioning while the sun is burning everyone.
Or if the polar ice caps melt, everyone gather at the highest point in the world, Mount Everest.
RE: Global climate change by Kenji on 01-22-2007 at 11:07 PM
Looks like im not doing nothing wrong here. <3 Solar power <3
RE: Global climate change by Fanta on 01-22-2007 at 11:12 PM
quote:
Running a computer in America is the same as any other country.
But only in America it seems to be frying brains.
* Fanta runs
RE: Global climate change by Adeptus on 01-22-2007 at 11:35 PM
Let's see if we can follow this one through logically. The original question:
quote:Response and faulty justification:
How much damage are we doing to Global warming just by sitting here (or standing, if that's your thing) on the computer now?
quote:The question is about the environmental impact of operating a computer. The response suggests the impact is greater if you do it in the USA. Is that really true, though?
Shit loads, more if your in America obviously. The USA is largest single emitter or GHGs. It's GHG emissions have also risen +16% between 1990 & 2004. Comparable to the UKs, which dropped by 14%
The total greenhouse gas emissions by country has nothing to do with anything; all things being equal, a single computer operated in any country would contribute the same to the global GHG emissions. However, things are not equal: electricty can be generated in a number of ways, of which only fossil fuel contributes to greenhouse effect. Nuclear, hydro and other methods of generating electricity do not result in GHG emissions.
So, the relevant statistic here is the percentage of electricity generated from burning fossil fuels. As usual, Google helps us out and here is a nice chart. You will want to scroll down past all the 100% countries, to the 70s, where you will find both UK and USA, at 73.8% and 71.4% respectively.
Yes, although close, a greater percentage of electricty in UK comes from burning fossil fuels than it does in USA. Consequently, it can be said that operating the same computer for the same amount of time in the UK does more damage to the environment than doing the same in the US. Oops!
RE: Global climate change by lutonsteve2 on 01-23-2007 at 12:04 AM
All PCs do the same amount of damage.
Whether it be in the States, England, Wales, Alaska (I know, I'm labouring), Pakistan or Ghana.
Here endeth the lesson
RE: Global climate change by foaly on 01-23-2007 at 11:22 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Adeptus
The total greenhouse gas emissions by country has nothing to do with anything; all things being equal, a single computer operated in any country would contribute the same to the global GHG emissions. However, things are not equal: electricty can be generated in a number of ways, of which only fossil fuel contributes to greenhouse effect. Nuclear, hydro and other methods of generating electricity do not result in GHG emissions.
lies to cool nuclear power plants we normally use water... because of the insane high temperatures 1 in a billion water particles (or less) turns into 03 which is ozone (which is the strongest GHG off all...) and while making thinks like solar panels and windmills
a lot off GHG are emitted...
So it just isn't that black and white...
Nuclear energy is the best option we have, to compensate for the energy problem we are facing though...
RE: Global climate change by Nagamasa on 01-23-2007 at 12:42 PM
quote:The fish are all dead by then?
Originally posted by GiantSpider
It's ok, we can just live on boats, big bastard ones, and then eat lots of fish.
quote:but it depends on how long you keep it on, how fast your fan speed, etc.
Originally posted by lutonsteve2
All PCs do the same amount of damage.