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Shoutbox Suggestion. by EBFL on 01-27-2007 at 05:10 PM

Idea thought by me & FineWolf:

Only people that has done over 150 posts can post in the shoutbox?

RE: Shoutbox Suggestion. by Rolando on 01-27-2007 at 05:11 PM

I dislike this idea :undecided:

There's people that could post there and not be newbies asking for help.

RE: Shoutbox Suggestion. by FineWolf on 01-27-2007 at 05:12 PM

Also, better skining support for the shoutbox please... I did manage to get my theme the way I wanted it to look, but using Firefox's user.css.

[Image: goodlookingshoutboxay4.png]

code:
@namespace url(http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml);

@-moz-document url-prefix(http://shoutbox.menthix.net/shoutbox.php),
url-prefix(http://shoutbox.menthix.net/shoutbox.php) {

body {
background-color: #ffffff !important;
}

body, input, td {
font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif !important;
font-size: 10px !important;
}

td { color: #000000 !important; }

.trow1, .trow2 {
background-image: url("http://shoutbox.menthix.net/images/headbg.gif") !important;
background-repeat: repeat-x !important;
background-position: top center !important;
background-color: #1D80C0 !important;
}

.trow1 table td * {
color: white !important;
font-weight: bold !important;
}

.trow1[title~="Posted"], .trow1[align~="center"], body[id~="all"] .trow1, body[id~="all"] div div {
background-image: url("http://shoutbox.menthix.net/images/tdbg2.gif") !important;
background-repeat: repeat-x !important;
background-position: top center !important;
background-color: #D1EDF7 !important;
}

.trow2[title~="Posted"], body[id~="all"] .trow2 {
background-image: url("http://shoutbox.menthix.net/images/tdbg1.gif") !important;
background-repeat: repeat-x !important;
background-position: top center !important;
background-color: #FFFFFF !important;
}

body[id~="all"] div div {
border: 1px solid #99c5cd !important;
}

.trowhl { border: 3px solid #99c5cd !important; }
.trow_my { background-color: red !important; }
.actionText { color: #FF0000 !important; }
.highlightname { background-color: #FFFFC8 !important; }
.tborder { background-color: #99c5cd !important; }
.editlink { color: maroon !important; }
a:link, a:visited { text-decoration: none !important; color: #376D95 !important; }
a:hover { text-decoration: underline !important; color: #FF8D2F !important; }
a.actionText:link, a.actionText:visited, a.actionText:hover { color: #FF0000 !important; }
a.membername:link, a.membername:visited { text-decoration: none !important; }
a.membername:hover { text-decoration: underline !important; }
}

RE: Shoutbox Suggestion. by Chocolatino on 01-27-2007 at 05:13 PM

why? what would be the point apart from helping control spammers?

RE: RE: Shoutbox Suggestion. by FineWolf on 01-27-2007 at 05:14 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Chocolatino
why? what would be the point apart from helping control spammers?

That's exactly the point...

RE: Shoutbox Suggestion. by Chocolatino on 01-27-2007 at 05:15 PM

but 150 posts? thats kind of high.

RE: Shoutbox Suggestion. by EBFL on 01-27-2007 at 05:15 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Chocolatino
but 150 posts? thats kind of high.

Means they should have learnt to stop spamming by then

RE: Shoutbox Suggestion. by pollolibredegrasa on 01-27-2007 at 05:16 PM

Not too sure about the 125 but I agree there should be some sort of limit. That way it just stops people registering just to use it as a chatroom to talk to their friends while at school :/

RE: Shoutbox Suggestion. by CookieRevised on 01-27-2007 at 05:18 PM

quote:
Originally posted by EnglandBoyForLife.
Idea thought by me & FineWolf:

Only people that has done over 150 posts can post in the shoutbox?

Asked before and answered before with 'no'...

The main question: why?

If it is to control spammers, then so what? It is a shoutbox, not a forum thread or whatever. Also, if one really wants to spam, they then go creating a forum account and start posting like hell to reach x posts. This is even worse...

quote:
Originally posted by fatfreechicken
Not too sure about the 125 but I agree there should be some sort of limit. That way it just stops people registering just to use it as a chatroom to talk to their friends while at school

You don't need to be registered to be able to post in the shoutbox... And if that was a requirement, then people would simply register to the forum just to be able to post in the shoutbox, making the userdb even bigger with useless 0-posts accounts...

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IMHO

RE: Shoutbox Suggestion. by -dt- on 01-27-2007 at 05:18 PM

quote:
Originally posted by EnglandBoyForLife.

Only people that has done over 150 posts can post in the shoutbox?

why.... does it matter if they spam?

* -dt- thinks this idea is stupid...

quote:
Originally posted by FineWolf
Also, better skining support for the shoutbox please...

type /theme, and :/ what other skinning features do you want?

RE: Shoutbox Suggestion. by Nathan on 01-27-2007 at 05:18 PM

quote:
Originally posted by FineWolf
Also, better skining support for the shoutbox please... I did manage to get my theme the way I wanted it to look, but using Firefox's user.css.

code:
@namespace url(http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml);

@-moz-document url-prefix(http://shoutbox.menthix.net/shoutbox.php),
url-prefix(http://shoutbox.menthix.net/shoutbox.php) {

body {
background-color: #ffffff !important;
}

body, input, td {
font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif !important;
font-size: 10px !important;
}

td { color: #000000 !important; }

.trow1, .trow2 {
background-image: url("http://shoutbox.menthix.net/images/headbg.gif") !important;
background-repeat: repeat-x !important;
background-position: top center !important;
background-color: #1D80C0 !important;
}

.trow1 table td * {
color: white !important;
font-weight: bold !important;
}

.trow1[title~="Posted"], .trow1[align~="center"], body[id~="all"] .trow1, body[id~="all"] div div {
background-image: url("http://shoutbox.menthix.net/images/tdbg2.gif") !important;
background-repeat: repeat-x !important;
background-position: top center !important;
background-color: #D1EDF7 !important;
}

.trow2[title~="Posted"], body[id~="all"] .trow2 {
background-image: url("http://shoutbox.menthix.net/images/tdbg1.gif") !important;
background-repeat: repeat-x !important;
background-position: top center !important;
background-color: #FFFFFF !important;
}

body[id~="all"] div div {
border: 1px solid #99c5cd !important;
}

.trowhl { border: 3px solid #99c5cd !important; }
.trow_my { background-color: red !important; }
.actionText { color: #FF0000 !important; }
.highlightname { background-color: #FFFFC8 !important; }
.tborder { background-color: #99c5cd !important; }
.editlink { color: maroon !important; }
a:link, a:visited { text-decoration: none !important; color: #376D95 !important; }
a:hover { text-decoration: underline !important; color: #FF8D2F !important; }
a.actionText:link, a.actionText:visited, a.actionText:hover { color: #FF0000 !important; }
a.membername:link, a.membername:visited { text-decoration: none !important; }
a.membername:hover { text-decoration: underline !important; }
}

Why dont you just type in shoutbox /theme and you can customize it - when wdz makes something he does it properly (y)

RE: RE: Shoutbox Suggestion. by FineWolf on 01-27-2007 at 05:20 PM

quote:
Originally posted by -dt-

quote:
Originally posted by FineWolf
Also, better skining support for the shoutbox please...
type /theme, and :/ what other skinning features do you want?

With that, you can modify the colors, but not the rest of the attributes. Try to go with theme and create your own theme that looks exactly like mine. As you might of noticed, I have images in my theme, and modified a bunch of attributes not supported by the current "theming engine".

RE: Shoutbox Suggestion. by Nathan on 01-27-2007 at 05:23 PM

Oh my bad, the hsoutbox looks different it looked the same to me because I havn't been on shoutbox for so long!

RE: Shoutbox Suggestion. by Kenji on 01-27-2007 at 05:56 PM

quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
You don't need to be registered to be able to post in the shoutbox...

Yes you do...

And also, afaik, You are allowed to ask for help in there...

And if you want the "spam" to stop, just ban people like nanafreak....

RE: Shoutbox Suggestion. by Thor on 01-27-2007 at 06:05 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Dazmo

quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
You don't need to be registered to be able to post in the shoutbox...
Yes you do...

And also, afaik, You are allowed to ask for help in there...

And if you want the "spam" to stop, just ban people like nanafreak....

May I mention that you'e been banned from it before? :tongue:

RE: RE: Shoutbox Suggestion. by Vimto on 01-27-2007 at 06:24 PM

quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised

quote:
Originally posted by EnglandBoyForLife.
Idea thought by me & FineWolf:

Only people that has done over 150 posts can post in the shoutbox?

Asked before and answered before with 'no'...

The main question: why?

If it is to control spammers, then so what? It is a shoutbox, not a forum thread or whatever. Also, if one really wants to spam, they then go creating a forum account and start posting like hell to reach x posts. This is even worse...

I totally agree. If someone knows that they have to get to 150 posts to be allowed in the shoutbox then they will probably spam even more to reach that amount...

Even if this idea did go ahead I think 150 is really too much. If it was going to be considered then I would think at least 50 or at most 100 posts would be sensible.

RE: Shoutbox Suggestion. by L. Coyote on 01-27-2007 at 06:25 PM

I like the ideas.

But I think the post requirement should be much lower. Something like 10 to 25.

Also, I agree with many here that the shoutbox is not really THAT important, since you can go to IRC if you want to avoid excessive SPAM.

But for those who want to stay there or can't go to IRC, a little screening wouldn't hurt anyone.

And I agree with FineWolf that the skinning system should be improved to allow images and (maybe even) name coloring.

RE: Shoutbox Suggestion. by Thor on 01-27-2007 at 06:31 PM

quote:
Originally posted by L. Coyote

Also, I agree with many here that the shoutbox is not really THAT important, since you can go to IRC if you want to avoid excessive SPAM.

But for those who want to stay there or can't go to IRC, a little screening wouldn't hurt anyone.

And I agree with FineWolf that the skinning system should be improved to allow images and (maybe even) name coloring. (Smilie)

You snapped my words.

I agree, not so much as limit, and a better skinning "engine".

RE: Shoutbox Suggestion. by Rolando on 01-27-2007 at 06:34 PM

Bah. The shoutbox is fine as it is. Only like 5 or 8 people use it reguarly, and we all like it the way it is :undecided:

There could be a better skinning engine, but its not a requirement.

The ~~spam~~shoutbox is good as it is, imo.

RE: Shoutbox Suggestion. by Weyzza on 01-27-2007 at 06:35 PM

Ok, so you've created a thread.

I think I need to mention here that you have to be nicer to new registered members or to people you call noobs.

[Image: attachment.php?pid=782945]

A "noob" made a fine point here.

quote:
Originally posted by Dazmo

quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
You don't need to be registered to be able to post in the shoutbox...
Yes you do...

Guests could shout in the shoutbox until mid-2004 (I think).

RE: Shoutbox Suggestion. by Rolando on 01-27-2007 at 06:38 PM

That's exactly my point Weyzza. The 'spam'box is there so people can.. shout. Nothing serious like making a thread.

Its fine the way it is.

Edit
@Leo: hush I meant 'almost' everyone.. Its just that I dont see the point of it, not that I dont respect their opinion :rolleyes:

RE: Shoutbox Suggestion. by L. Coyote on 01-27-2007 at 06:38 PM

quote:
Originally posted by q25
Bah. The shoutbox is fine as it is. Only like 5 or 8 people use it reguarly, and we all like it the way it is

Apparently not everyone.

And, please people, let others have suggestions and opinions. :-/

RE: Shoutbox Suggestion. by Nathan on 01-27-2007 at 06:46 PM

Used by only a few people :/
http://shoutbox.menthix.net/shoutbox.php?action=stats&all=1

RE: Shoutbox Suggestion. by Oxy on 01-27-2007 at 07:16 PM

Some people want quick & easy help, and the shoutbox is there right place for that (asides IRC)
Some people use it to communicate and have fun with other members, which if done in a thread, would be spam.
I think it's perfect.. and never fix things if they're not broken

RE: Shoutbox Suggestion. by Lou on 01-27-2007 at 07:59 PM

It's a shoutbox. That's all there is to it. Does it really matter who gets to go there or not? It's not harming anybody if someone under that amount of posts is there.

RE: Shoutbox Suggestion. by WDZ on 01-27-2007 at 09:29 PM

People actually care about the shoutbox? O_o

=P

quote:
Originally posted by q25
I dislike this idea

There's people that could post there and not be newbies asking for help.

I agree.

For example, sometimes people come in there because they're having trouble activating their forum accounts and can't post.

The "newbies asking for help" problem doesn't seem too bad, if you ask me. I think they quickly get the idea that the shoutbox is not for MsgPlus support. (a)

quote:
Originally posted by q25
That's exactly my point Weyzza. The 'spam'box is there so people can.. shout. Nothing serious like making a thread.

Exactly... it's not a big deal if people spam... I usually ban them or prune their shouts anyway.

quote:
Originally posted by Weyzza
Guests could shout in the shoutbox until mid-2004 (I think).

Guest shouting can be enabled at any time, but guests are usually dodgy, so I just leave it disabled. :tongue:

In fact, yesterday I blocked guests from even viewing the shoutbox because I've seen lots of open proxies accessing it lately, which seems quite suspicious... :dodgy:

As for the skinning, I'll think about it. I'm sure Johnny_Mac would enjoy having the awesomest background image ever again.

RE: Shoutbox Suggestion. by EBFL on 01-28-2007 at 03:04 PM

How about having people that activated not be able to go onto the shoutbox? =O

RE: RE: Shoutbox Suggestion. by Vimto on 01-28-2007 at 03:22 PM

quote:
Originally posted by EnglandBoyForLife.
How about having people that activated not be able to go onto the shoutbox? =O

Yeah ill second that. ¬_¬

RE: Shoutbox Suggestion. by Oxy on 01-28-2007 at 07:42 PM

quote:
Originally posted by EnglandBoyForLife.
How about having people that activated not be able to go onto the shoutbox? =O

What if they needed to activate their account, but did something wrong/something went wrong that wasnt their fault and they need an admin to activate it?

RE: Shoutbox Suggestion. by Thor on 01-28-2007 at 07:57 PM

WDZ, can't you make the look of shoutbox (theme) be stored in the user settings, INSTEAD of using cookies (or whatever that is used).

I'd love that.

And a better skinning engine would be awesome.

RE: RE: RE: Shoutbox Suggestion. by CookieRevised on 01-28-2007 at 09:40 PM

quote:
Originally posted by .Vimto.

quote:
Originally posted by EnglandBoyForLife.
How about having people that activated not be able to go onto the shoutbox? =O

Yeah ill second that. ¬_¬

So every user of this forum will not be able to go into the shoutbox anymore since we all have activated our account?

RE: Shoutbox Suggestion. by Svip on 01-28-2007 at 09:49 PM

How about no shoutbox at all, and let's go on IRC instead?

RE: Shoutbox Suggestion. by Thor on 01-28-2007 at 09:53 PM

quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
So every user of this forum will not be able to go into the shoutbox anymore since we all have activated our account?

That would really be sooooo smart. 8-)

quote:
Originally posted by Svip
How about no shoutbox at all, and let's go on IRC instead?

That would be interesting.......... ... ... ... ... ... ... or?

RE: Shoutbox Suggestion. by L. Coyote on 01-28-2007 at 11:20 PM

quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
So every user of this forum will not be able to go into the shoutbox anymore since we all have activated our account?

Edit: I mean, I hope that was sarcasm.

RE: Shoutbox Suggestion. by Rolando on 01-28-2007 at 11:29 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Svip
How about no shoutbox at all, and let's go on IRC instead?

NO.

RE: Shoutbox Suggestion. by Hank on 01-28-2007 at 11:29 PM

quote:
Originally posted by EnglandBoyForLife.
Idea thought by me & FineWolf:

Only people that has done over 150 posts can post in the shoutbox?

bad idea

RE: RE: Shoutbox Suggestion. by CookieRevised on 01-28-2007 at 11:43 PM

quote:
Originally posted by L. Coyote

quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
So every user of this forum will not be able to go into the shoutbox anymore since we all have activated our account?

Edit: I mean, I hope that was sarcasm.

No it actually isn't... it is a legit question (not a statement).

---

Please read posts and don't take quotes out of context (whoever it was which only posted that quote without the statement which triggered that question - I cba to go back and see who did it -bottom line: please read posts :dodgy:

enough pulling things out of context and putting words in mouths lately *sigh*)

EDIT:

quote:
Originally posted by L. Coyote
Oh, because I actually thought EnglandBoyForLife meant accounts NOT activated. Otherwise it doesn't make sense, as you said it. Why would all of us be forbidden from the shoutbox?

indeed... exactly what I meant...

RE: Shoutbox Suggestion. by L. Coyote on 01-28-2007 at 11:50 PM

quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
No it actually isn't... it is a legit question (not a statement).

Oh, because I actually thought EBFL meant accounts NOT activated. Otherwise it doesn't make sense, as you said it. Why would all of us be forbidden from the shoutbox?

quote:
Please read posts and don't take quotes out of context (whoever it was which only posted that quote without the statement which triggered that question - I cba to go back and see who did it -bottom line: please read posts enough pulling things out of context and putting words in mouths lately *sigh*)

PS: That was the Quick Quote thingy not me.

RE: Shoutbox Suggestion. by Flaming Rob on 01-30-2007 at 07:02 AM

Anyways my opinion is that we should leave the shout box as it is for the moment.