Well it all started off last year when I had just arrived at the school, my knowledge with pc's wasnt as wide as it is today....
And I think it was exca or ezra who remotly accessed my account on the school servers to try and find exploits in the server - we both failed then.

I have found a few loopholes in the server recently but thats not how and why I got caught.
I have created a proxy website to get round the blocked sites that I mainly used to access this site.
I got caught cos some prick in my IT lesson goes "Oi, Nathan. Is the site to your proxy nathans-hosting.com/proxy?"
And my IT teacher goes right thats it Nathan I am going to block it.
I reply "Try it sir, I can easily change the address."
He replys "Then I will block the IP address"
I reply "Fine, good luck in that becuase It's damn hard to block a dynamic IP address.
He then doesnt reply 

Next day in my itc lesson He pulls me out of the IT room and puts me into a classroom and tells me to sit down.
He goes "Do you know how serious this is Nathan?"
"This is hacking the server, I know what a proxy is."
I go "Yes sir."
He then goes on to say: "This means suspension and having to speak to the headmaster and Mrs pric roberts (yes that is her name) and they may even choose to expell you, they are fuming"
He then sends me back to the ITC room, saying I want your laptop to see how I did this :/
So during the lesson I went threw all of my files and deleted the innapropiate files heheh.

Later on the next day
I get a phone call saying I have to go and see Mrs Pric Roberts (the deputy head) and then she starts blaming me for the server going down :/
after I had a lecture off her I went outside and Mr coats (my IT teahcer) goes to me I want you to explain exactly how you did this. (not remembering that only a couple of days ago he said he knew what one is) So I have an opppiontment for him at 4PM on tuesday.

I then ask him If I can have my lapotp back and he goes "No, And that reminds me you are know allowed on any computer or laptop when I am at school and If I am caught onone then I will be defiantly expelled!

The dodgiest thing about this is when He asked me for my laptop and said he wanted to look threw everything I had.
The laptop only had 1 hour of battery life left! and he didnt have the charger :/

They dont have an acer because all the laptops they have there are dells.

Anyone care to explain what they might be doign with my laptop.

One of the really bad things is: I aksed for my laptop back at the weekends and he would give it too me to take home :/
is this legal?

Nathan

well done natisha

lol, IT teachers..
If it runs outa battery, isnt it possible to use the HDD in a different laptop?
Well done btw, did a great job "hacking"

1) you spelled have the words wrong, makes it hard to understand
2) i dont get it, what does your laptop have to do with this? didnt you just set the proxy at home and went to sites at school? =/

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Originally posted by .OxY
If it runs outa battery, isnt it possible to use the HDD in a different laptop?

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The advantage with me is , since I help the school and manage the website, I can pass the Blocked Pages

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1) you spelled have the words wrong, makes it hard to understand

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<3 eljay haha

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Originally posted by Nathan
And my IT teacher goes right thats it Nathan I am going to block it.
I reply "Try it sir, I can easily change the address."
He replys "Then I will block the IP address"
I reply "Fine, good luck in that becuase It's damn hard to block a dynamic IP address."

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1) you spelled have the words wrong, makes it hard to understand

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I had a friend who hacked the school network and he almost got  suspended, but if the battery runs out then he cant check it and its highly doubtful he'll take the hdd out, but he shouldnt take away your laptop, and if he does "keep" it for a little bit, he shouldnt of done anything to the computer.

If he takes the laptop out he "could" void my  warrnty that I pay extra for so couldnt I take him to court for that?

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lol they call using a proxy hacking the server at your school?

one of my classmates managed to hack (well, actually sniff and use) the school network last year. After changing a few marks and stealing a few tests he had enough fun and finished his job by changing the screens on which you can see which lessons are cancelled/changed to a nice picture of Bart Simpson "Eat My Shorts"

That's how much fun a password sniffer can be

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OH THE IRONY!

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Well, that's a dumb thing to say... you should have let him think he won...

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Just to say, most laptop chargers are the same. i know my mum's laptop, my dad's and mine are.

Yeah I "hacked" into a teachers password with a sniffer - account name:
hazel.harrison
And I made myself ad
in and I can do what I want

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Just to say, most laptop chargers are the same, i know my mum's laptop, my dad's and mine are.

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maybe you could take him to court for privacy invasion.
but don't go all sue, if the battery runs out i think he'll just give it back

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l, that's a dumb thing to say... you should have let him think he won... (Smilie)

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(i have to use a freaking proxy to get to the forums, i can't see why it would have been blocked (Smilie))

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Just to say, most laptop chargers are the same, i know my mum's laptop, my dad's and mine are.

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Nah this is a charger made by acer etc... and they are not allowed to use another one/.

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Yeah we have a firewall called fortinet and its damn annoying,
It blocks a history site saying "pornographic images"

Also I showes teahcers how to do this (using moo.thedt.net to make mine faster) and they gave me an accomindation!

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l, that's a dumb thing to say... you should have let him think he won... (Smilie)

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yup

then he would of just blocked the IP would of that's it. (But you still use it =D)

then everyone's happy.

Still, just say you're not telling them anything, if he's an IT teacher he should know, if not then maybe he's not in a position to teach a class

Oh, and never tell your friends about proxies.

Ine my school, someone finds a proxy and goes 'ooo i gotz dis site dat can get us onto myspace and bebo' and everyone goes on it and then it gets blocked in like a week.

me on the other hand use one proxy that no one else knows and it hasn't yet been blocked =D
(i have to use a freaking proxy to get to the forums, i can't see why it would have been blocked )

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Originally posted by Nathan
If he takes the laptop out he "could" void my  warrnty that I pay extra for so couldnt I take him to court for that?

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jees, why do ict departments suck ass all the time. my mate used his mp3 player, the usb sticky kind, as a memory stick, with his courseowrk among the mp3's.... the technicians pulled him up and banned him because having the mp3s was against copyright or whatever...

he got his dad involved (fraud officer) and threatened them with legal shit if he wasnt unbanned (because not being allowed computer access may cause him to do badly in his gcse's or something)

but the main point was he didnt open or touch the mp3's on the school computer... so WTF!

the best bit was :
techie:'theyre illegally downloaded mp3s'
my mate: 'no theyre not, how do you know that i didnt buy them off of itunes or rip them from a cd'
techie:'theyre illegal mp3s, your banned'

ARGH useless bastards

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(i have to use a freaking proxy to get to the forums, i can't see why it would have been blocked (Smilie))

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Because its releated to msn?

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the best bit was :
techie:'theyre illegally downloaded mp3s'
my mate: 'no theyre not, how do you know that i didnt buy them off of itunes or rip them from a cd'
techie:'theyre illegal mp3s, your banned'

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hm, theres money to be made in ict right? so if your good at ict, do you become a teacher?!?!

More money in other aspects of ICT, teachers don't get much.

better off fixing them or designing software or something i would of thought.

This laptop? Is this your own laptop? Did you (or your parents) buy it, or did school buy if for you?

If it isn't technically a school laptop he has no right whatsoever to keep it. Take your parents to school and demand your things back .

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The dodgiest thing about this is when He asked me for my laptop and said he wanted to look threw everything I had.
The laptop only had 1 hour of battery life left! and he didnt have the charger :/ They dont have an acer because all the laptops they have there are dells. Anyone care to explain what they might be doign with my laptop.

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Our school computers suck way to much. And plus, I have only been on the computers less than 3 hours this year, and I spent all of it typing stuff up...and checking My Bright Corner , and our video cards suck too much...

And there is

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OH THE IRONY!

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he goes "No, And that reminds me you are know allowed on any computer or laptop when I am at school and If I am caught onone then I will be defiantly expelled!

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One of the really bad things is: I aksed for my laptop back at the weekends and he would give it too me to take home :/

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I'm sorry but what was the point of doing all that thing?

Do you REALLY need to check these sites that bad when you are at school? Can't you wait to get back home?

And what's the point of defying the teacher? Personally, as a teacher, I would've punished you just for the arrogance.

Ouch Nath, that's some serious bad luck .

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Do you REALLY need to check these sites that bad when you are at school? Can't you wait to get back home?

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Thank you UTI for taking in other possibilites.
I am a border at school and I sleep overnight.
I thought more people know i go to a boarding school.

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Still, just say you're not telling them anything, if he's an IT teacher he should know, if not then maybe he's not in a position to teach a class (Smilie)

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is it your laptop, or the schools? if it was my laptop, i would ahve refused to turn it over. they have no right to look through your personal details with out a valid police warrent

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how to use one in practice, they only need theory to get their qualification. =/ Fortunately, most schools don't hire the ones that can't do shit. =p

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how to use one in practice, they only need theory to get their qualification. =/ Fortunately, most schools don't hire the ones that can't do shit. =p

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yeah i know =( half of our ICT teachers are failed science teachers o.O

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I too am stuck with a under qualified computer "teacher".

It's pretty funny how she said something among the lines of "MS-DOS is superior to UNIX. In UNIX you must enter a whole bunch of commands to do a simple task, whereas MS-DOS has a command for everything". I couldn't stop laughing when she went away from where I was sitting.

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today actually i applied for a class change for a better tech teacher cuz the one i have atm was teaching how to do page breaks in word (). tho unlike teachers from before, she wasnt scared to death when i was tracert -ing random sites out of boredom =P

the other teacher is said to be teaching stuff about 2 years ahead of what he's supposed to, so i hope it'll be good =]

Wow, it must be so annoying to attend schools that blocks out certain websites. IMO there's just no good reason for the administrators to do that - maybe it's just a question of them wanting to enjoy the feeling of being slightly superior to the school's students when it comes to browsing rights.

I'm not in school ATM, but none of the schools I've attended in the past had URL blockers - and it was no problem whatsoever. As long as the school disallows students to install harmful plugins from websites and such, I don't see what the fuss would be about.
At work (gas station) we have a personnel computer which has a very limited list of allowed URLs, maybe 20. This restriction, on the other hand, I find completely understandable since we're payed by the hour.

In regards your laptop: Taking the nature of your little proxy crime into account I don't understand why the teacher would bother to confiscate your laptop. I'll bet you anything they haven't bothered with turning it on.

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Wow, it must be so annoying to attend schools that blocks out certain websites. IMO there's just no good reason for the administrators to do that - maybe it's just a question of them wanting to enjoy the feeling of being slightly superior to the school's students when it comes to browsing rights.

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today actually i applied for a class change for a better tech teacher cuz the one i have atm was teaching how to do page breaks in word (). tho unlike teachers from before, she wasnt scared to death when i was tracert -ing random sites out of boredom =P

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Get it back off them. They have no right to take your stuff and they know it. You used a proxy and you were a bit of a smart arse to a teacher, that is all. The most they can do to do that I reckon is fair is maybe a lunch detention. But threatening you with all that stuff? I would seriously think about taking it higher. Remember, act mature about it. Teachers love a good excuse to put you in more trouble.

When you get your laptop back, send xJ+ the SonicSam.Net design files .

I don't really get what you're trying to do at the moment, trying to impress us that you nearly got expelled from a school for using a proxy. The blocker, however annoying, is in place so that students don't go on any malicious websites etc, it's your own fault if you get expelled, don't try and find sympathy.

Sure, you may know more than that ICT teacher, but who cares? It's his job and you're humiliating him in front of his colleagues, how do you think he feels that a 15 year old is doing this to him? Just stop being an arse and face the consequences, promise to them that you'll never do it again.

Also, if it's your laptop, they have no right taking it from you for any longer than a day, and that is the law .

traxor, I am not trying to find sympathy.
All of you guys are nothing more that a pixilated image...
I do not know anyone here properly - in person. So why would I try to impresse?
I have freinds - real freinds

And thanks for that bit of info

if its your laptop, you shouldn't of handed it over, as he has no right to search your personal files.

OH NOES A PROXY ITS GOING TO BLOW UP THE SERVER

i think id just be worried in case they tried to put a key logger on or somethang that tracks what you do, i think they can do that cant they?

If the teachers would install a keylogger on Nathan's laptop that will be awesome . That would mean Nathan can totally rape them for privacy invasion.

lol i never tell anyone about my proxy... well a few but yea im setting up a new one where you need a password ....

also msghelp isnt banned



and you shouldnt have handed over your laptop... if it was yours

i cant believe he actually took your laptop is that even legal its your laptop and there are a hundred proxy sites out there its simply just picking one. Also what you said to your teacher totally shut him up LOL i have to admit that was good  

Schools computers are usually cheap and weak :\ but unfortunately they just updated all of our school computers with anti-viruses and all this security stuff, going from what we did to them all last year, so now we need to find something new to do :\

There is a much much easier way to get it back! Instead of going through the law, etc, why don't you use it against the school? Tell the teacher who took it this: "Fine, you can confiscate my laptop for a while, but all the homework due in which is on the laptop which i can't hand in, i will hold you personally responsible. Any homework i have been given while it is confiscated, -you- can do for me. Thankyou."

Either he lays a brick there and then and gives it you, or he disagrees. If he disagrees tell the teacher who's homework it is that you can't hand it in because he's got the homework on your laptop.

This is what I would do, and it sounds pretty f*cking ingenius to me.

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There is a much much easier way to get it back! Instead of going through the law, etc, why don't you use it against the school? Tell the teacher who took it this: "Fine, you can confiscate my laptop for a while, but all the homework due in which is on the laptop which i can't hand in, i will hold you personally responsible. Any homework i have been given while it is confiscated, -you- can do for me. Thankyou."

Either he lays a brick there and then and gives it you, or he disagrees. If he disagrees tell the teacher who's homework it is that you can't hand it in because he's got the homework on your laptop.

This is what I would do, and it sounds pretty f*cking ingenius to me.

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His in year 9, work doesn't matter then .

hey,

Feel sorry for you!

But nice one putting that teacher right with the dynamic IP

Our school Network is soooo secure that it's unbelivable.....they have 2 guys sitting watching keylogging or summit ..like looking at what sites we are going on, then if they miss one 'bad' site the system automatically puts on an alarm to our username and they watch what we are doing then if we do go on to some dojjy site we get pulled out of class, they have so many sites blocked..i mean they don't even let us on miniclip!! they say it downloads potiential harmfull stuff to the computers (which they just updated to XP BTW(finaly!)) i remeber a few months ago we were doing dtabases and they asked us to do one on music, so i went on wikipedia an the first band i typed in was gun's N roses and it blocked it .
But what i find anoying is that they spend so much money ( the 2 guys and all the secruity stuff) on the computer side of things in the school that they don't have enough money left to (and sorry but it's true) clean one of the toilet, so we only have one left which has been set on fire 3 times since i came (in 2005). 

Half my school knows about the PHProxy i run, and the admins are either too lame or too stupid to do anything about it. However, most people just install Firefox into their profiles, which is easy as hell to do once you get the installer.exe file. Then again, our url blocker blocks exes and anything to do with Firefox. (For which reason i also have a zipped Firefox installer on my proxy page )

Myself, and 2 friends I trust use a little program I wrote  which disables the proxy in the registry (in vb6, which they teach us), so we look like "good students" who don't "bother to get around the proxy by using Firefox."

hah, translate.google.com as proxy >*

It sucks cos that doesnt work at my school

why/how?

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No,
They have a £50'000 firewall and it searches the page for the content

What proxy software were you using nathan?
And let's get one thing straight, is or isn't it your laptop?

It is my laptop

Demand it back then.

A kid at my college almost got banned. We used netsend to send messages to a network IP. If you don't enter the IP then it gets sent to every computer, not only in the college, but the WHOLE network (including the university and some local businesses)

Yeah i've done that too xD

You've gotta love doing:

net send * Track me xD



I love fucking with pc's at school

When you send a message with netsend, how does it get displayed?

I think it is disabled here anyway

well you have to have messenger enabled (administrative options)

Like windows messenger?

EDIT: yep, netsend is not recognized as an executable.

I'll have to copy it from my computer

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I have admin access for every pc in school

(except i got it the hard way)

You hadda be good?

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Yeah i've done that too xD
You've gotta love doing:

netsend * Track me xD

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Yeah i've done that too xD
You've gotta love doing:

netsend * Track me xD

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like doing:
net send * Track me xD
an awfull lot better

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meh - I broke my space bar so i have to press this little jelly thing

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When you send a message with netsend, how does it get displayed?

I think it is disabled here anyway

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When you send a message with netsend, how does it get displayed?

I think it is disabled here anyway

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It is disabled in SP2 by default.

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Your manic intent to try and play some stupid 2d flash game instead of doing work is reason enough for them to block the site.

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