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Translation Guidelines is not up to date|Some useless values in trans. file by ahmetgns on 02-08-2007 at 10:46 AM
Tranlation Guidelines file is not up to date anymore. It is for Plus! 3 and some parts are not supported by Plus! Live. I couldn't check the translation for Update is available now window.
Also when I am translating I saw a line about Emotion Sounds like that |Custom Sounds - Upload Sound|. When does this line appear and in which window?
Will any new Guideline be made for Plus! Live?
RE: Translation Guidelines is not up to date|Check Update available window, how? by Patchou on 02-13-2007 at 03:59 AM
The guideliens have not been updated because all the current translators seem to be famliar enough with the system.
The only way to force the apparition of the update window is to install an older version of Plus! Live and type /checkupdates in a chat window.
The upload sound window appears when you send a newly made emotion sound to a contact or when you click "update server" in the sound info window.
RE: Translation Guidelines is not up to date|Check Update available window, how? by ahmetgns on 02-19-2007 at 12:41 AM
I have seen Sound Upload text when Updating Server for a sound in Messenger Plus! 3.63 while walking around Windows Messenger however now I have checked again WLM8.1 and Msg Plus! Live 4.11 there is not such a line because there is no bar on the Sound Upload window. Whatever...
RE: Translation Guidelines is not up to date|Check Update available window, how? by Patchou on 02-20-2007 at 06:30 AM
I just checked and yes, you are right, theres a couple of values, including this one, that have nothing to do in the latest version. Thank you for pointing this out.
RE: Translation Guidelines is not up to date|Check Update available window, how? by ahmetgns on 03-05-2007 at 08:40 PM
Patchou, this is an old thread but I hope you use e-mail notifications and see this late post. I wonder where this value in langauge file appear when using the program. Or is this another useless value?
EncryptChangeWarning=Messenger Plus! Live comes with a brand new, more secure, encryption mechanism for your chat logs. Encryption is currently disabled but can be enabled again in the Preferences panel with a new password.
RE: Translation Guidelines is not up to date|Check Update available window, how? by CookieRevised on 03-06-2007 at 01:12 AM
The values talked about in the Translation Documentation are ALL for Messenger Plus! 3.
Messenger Plus! 4 uses a total different menu system and the directions given in the Translation Documentation for those values are not compatible with Plus! 4.
However, everything else in the Translation Documentation is still very valid for Messenger Plus! 4. The documentation is mostly about guidelines to make a proper decent translation. The directions to produce a certain window in Plus! itself to check your values is only a reference (which is thus actually not the important part of the documentation) and should be used as a possible reference for Messenger Plus! 3, not for Messenger Plus! 4.
Everything you see in Messenger Plus! 4 translation files is not useless at all. They all have their usage.
You should not use the Translation Documentation as a guideline to reproduce certain windows and lines for Messenger Plus! 4. That is not what the documentation is about...
As such Patchou didn't said those values are useless, he said those values only exist in Messenger Plus! 3, not in Messenger Plus! 4.
Again, the values listed in the documentation are for Messenger Plus! 3, not for Messenger Plus! 4. Moreover, certain values from Messenger Plus! 3 which also still exist in Messenger Plus! 4 will be used in a different way and/or shown in different cases. Again, this makes that you should not use the references to values in the Translation Documentation for Messenger Plus! 4.
The only thing valid (and mostly important) in the Translation Documentation in regards to Messenger Plus! 4 are the translation guidelines themselfs.
RE: Translation Guidelines is not up to date|Check Update available window, how? by ahmetgns on 03-06-2007 at 03:59 PM
cookie, I think you personally enjoy writing long posts. Patchou has already said that the Guidelines will not be updated. Also I know Plus! 4 is completely different and didn't try to reproduce those windows with the guides in the documentation. Do you know when that value appear in Plus! 4 "EncyrptOldWarning". I just wonder it!
quote:As Patchou said there were useless lines for Upload Sound and a bit more. So I have wondered if this value is an also useless one.
Originally posted by CookieRevised
Everything you see in Messenger Plus! 4 translation files is not useless at all. They all have their usage.
RE: Translation Guidelines is not up to date|Some useless values in trans. file by CookieRevised on 03-06-2007 at 04:30 PM
quote:You are confussing things, hence my long post to try and make it clear that stuff in Messenger Plus! Live translation files are not useless.
Originally posted by ahmetgns
As Patchou said there were useless lines for Upload Sound and a bit more. So I have wondered if this value is an also useless one.
Also, the stuff in the documentation is NOT for Plus! Live.
Although you say you know this, you were talking about Messenger Plus! Live translation values in this post and again in this post and were comparing them against the documentation.
Patchou did not say they were useless. He said that Plus!4 has changed a lot and that the documentation does not reflect those changes since it was made for Messenger Plus! 3. He didn't spoke of 'useless' at all..
Not all values from Messenger Plus! 3 are in Messenger Plus! 4 and vice versa.
RE: Translation Guidelines is not up to date|Some useless values in trans. file by Patchou on 03-06-2007 at 07:21 PM
"EncryptChangeWarning" is used sometimes when Messenger Plus! is updated from 3 to 4.