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Windows Live OneCare removed Plus! files by ahmetgns on 02-10-2007 at 05:17 PM
I have installed Windows Live Toolbar and from a button on it I started Windows Live OneCare to scan my computer. However after the scan it has removed many files including some .dll files and Log Viewer file and also all language files except used one for Plus!, from Messenger Plus! Live folder in Program Files folder. I have used System Recovery and I could save my files and suggest to you not to have a system scan with OneCare with default options checked.
RE: Don't use Windows Live OneCare by MattyDunn on 02-10-2007 at 07:37 PM
I personally have no problem with Windows Live OneCare Ive been usin it for about 4 months and when I do a scan it dusnt remove anythin like .dlls
RE: Don't use Windows Live OneCare by RaceProUK on 02-11-2007 at 12:29 PM
You should be able to tell Onecare to ignore Messenger Plus!. I know you can with Windows Defender.
Yes, I've finally installed Vista successfully!
RE: Don't use Windows Live OneCare by CookieRevised on 02-11-2007 at 08:17 PM
quote:The bottom line is NEVER EVER use a program like anti-virusses and other tools which might remove files or change settings WITHOUT EXACTLY knowing what EACH option does!
Originally posted by ahmetgns
I have installed Windows Live Toolbar and from a button on it I started Windows Live OneCare to scan my computer. However after the scan it has removed many files including some .dll files and Log Viewer file and also all language files except used one for Plus!, from Messenger Plus! Live folder in Program Files folder. I have used System Recovery and I could save my files and suggest to you not to have a system scan with OneCare with default options checked.
There is absolutely nothing wrong in using anti-virusses, tweakers, recover programs, compressors, etc., UNLESS you do not know what they will do.
Aka: don't press on any button like a blind man without first reading...
Also, System recovery is NOT a backup/restore program. Do not use it for things like this. If files of Plus! are removed, reinstall them properly. System Recovery is for recovering from a heavy major system fault so you can get access again to Windows or whatever. It should not be used as a backup/restore tool since it will overwrite important system files also with older files!
RE: Don't use Windows Live OneCare by superjugy on 02-23-2007 at 01:36 AM
The other leson here is, never use any program microsoft does that any other company could do better, for example, firewalls, antivirus, music players, etc... i would say browser but actually i do prefer IE than FF, but w/e
RE: RE: Don't use Windows Live OneCare by Salem on 02-26-2007 at 01:50 PM
quote:
Originally posted by MattyDunn
I personally have no problem with Windows Live OneCare Ive been usin it for about 4 months and when I do a scan it dusnt remove anythin like .dlls
YEp, same here. Used OneCare for a while now and never had any problems.
RE: RE: Don't use Windows Live OneCare by joemailey on 02-26-2007 at 07:35 PM
quote:
Originally posted by superjugy
The other leson here is, never use any program microsoft does that any other company could do better, for example, firewalls, antivirus, music players, etc... i would say browser but actually i do prefer IE than FF, but w/e
Why OneCare runs prefectly well, Infact i like OneCare that much i actually paid for it
Everything in one location. Is prefect for me.
it covers my 3pcs aswel for one subscription all good in my book.I use to use AVG free(i still rate as best free anti virus and i install it on all PCs i build/set up for people)
Firewalls? i don't use one. Since SP2 for XP i ain't needed one.
Im currently on vista ultimate on my laptop and My Main Pc. Other PC is too slow to handle it.
Still i use built in firewall with no issue's what so ever.
But then i am trained on Most M$ software. so i no how to configure it to my liking and not use it wrong.
RE: Don't use Windows Live OneCare by aNILEator on 02-26-2007 at 08:54 PM
Unfortunately no x64 support as of yet, but i did like it on XP 32, it was nice to know that i had one app to 'take care' of my system, also many users will find the backup features new and interesting.
My only gripes with onecare on xp were that when it found a nasty it wouldn't tell me more information about it or let me view it's folder location (co-incidentally it never actually removed it properly kept coming back yet no other AV's or AS's picked it up), this may have just been a one off, an error, a false positive or a known issue
NOT that my last paragraph should put you off using it, its a great first time effort from Microsoft, and I'm sure it will prove to be successful as more and more people visits the shops to buy a new computer and software, I was really impressed to see a good Microsoft Software display in some shops in the UK easily listing the differences between Vista Versions, Office 2007 versions and also having OneCare in the same display, Struck me as an easy to understand All-in-one Start up selection for a brand new PC
lets hope 1.6 < includes x64 support
RE: Don't use Windows Live OneCare by joemailey on 02-26-2007 at 09:29 PM
it wouldn't tell me more information about it or let me view it's folder location
^^ if u click the more option or advanced it lets you see. something along those lines i cant remember only thing it picks up is plus installers i set it to ignore always it doesnt come back.
RE: Don't use Windows Live OneCare by aNILEator on 02-27-2007 at 10:41 PM
yeah i remember it picked up my plus too and i saw the location but this one nasty it didn't kept saying it had removed ti but it'd be back whenever it scanned the next time 
RE: RE: Don't use Windows Live OneCare by joemailey on 02-28-2007 at 09:13 AM
quote:
Originally posted by aNILEator
yeah i remember it picked up my plus too and i saw the location but this one nasty it didn't kept saying it had removed ti but it'd be back whenever it scanned the next time
Some stuff can't removed unless you manually do it.
So its not just OneCare that doesn't remove certain stuff.
Cheap and good. does its job for me
RE: Windows Live OneCare removed Plus! files by Hank on 02-28-2007 at 09:40 AM
best not to touch 0neCare at all, had its problems from day 1 IMO
RE: Windows Live OneCare removed Plus! files by joemailey on 02-28-2007 at 10:32 AM
quote:
Originally posted by HSV
best not to touch 0neCare at all, had its problems from day 1 IMO
Really what kind of problems?
I had none what so ever minus few teething issue's during its first beta.
RE: RE: Windows Live OneCare removed Plus! files by Hank on 02-28-2007 at 11:29 AM
quote:wish i could remember those right now but im to tired
Originally posted by joemailey
quote:
Originally posted by HSV
best not to touch 0neCare at all, had its problems from day 1 IMO
Really what kind of problems?
I had none what so ever minus few teething issue's during its first beta.
but over all i wouldnt use it, myself
RE: Windows Live OneCare removed Plus! files by joemailey on 02-28-2007 at 12:24 PM
I've used it since its been in beta, never had issue.
So i guess its just way you want to work with it. i install it don't have to tounch it again because it does its own work.
No issues
Like everything people have different experiences. So i'd stick to telling people the good old try before you buy option.
RE: Windows Live OneCare removed Plus! files by aNILEator on 02-28-2007 at 06:54 PM
but still Norton 360, i just loved the initial comments on Neowin's release page
- "300MB of free hard disk space"
They must be kidding. That is pathetic.
- Allright folks ! New norton is here ... ready to slow down your computers ?
- I guess once you run the inbuilt PC tune up, Norton will proceed to uninstall itself
- * 300MHz or higher processor
* 256MB of RAM minimum
* 300MB of free hard disk space
Im gunna boot up my 300mhz machine and see what happends
- no 64bit os support? oh... no...
- So let me make sure I understand...
This is basically Systemworks and Internet Security in one package, with one price tag, giving people the ability to completely **** up to three family computers for an entire year?
Where do I sign up?
RE: Windows Live OneCare removed Plus! files by Dane on 09-16-2007 at 10:16 AM
Windows Live OneCare is at it again, this time attacking the installer. "Win32/MessengerPlus.b!installer" is the detection its giving for the latest version of Plus' Installer. It doesnt force you to remove it though.
OneCare Virus Encyclopedia: Win32/MessengerPlus
RE: Windows Live OneCare removed Plus! files by Menthix on 09-16-2007 at 12:59 PM
quote:Seems like one of the most far detections i've seen in a while. But their technical info is a bit off
Originally posted by Dane
Windows Live OneCare is at it again, this time attacking the installer. "Win32/MessengerPlus.b!installer" is the detection its giving for the latest version of Plus' Installer. It doesnt force you to remove it though.
OneCare Virus Encyclopedia: Win32/MessengerPlus
quote:
Originally posted by OneCare Virus Encyclopedia
Presence of a folder under %ProgramFiles% named "Messenger Plus! <version number>", and any of the following files in that folder:
detoured.dll
lame_enc.dll
libsndfile.dll
msgplus.exe
msgplush.dll
msgplusloader.dll
richedhook.dll