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Can't access msghelp.net, msgpluslive.net, etc. from the Netherlands by Menthix on 05-18-2007 at 12:17 PM
I'm currently browsing and posting from a web proxy.
Since this morning i can't seem to access any site in the same range as:
msgpluslive.net/.nl/.be/.es/etc. / msgplus.net
msghelp.net
files.msgpluslive.net / download.msgpluslive.net
sounds.msgpluslive.net does work, but that one also has an IP in a different range.
I asked around and more Dutchies from multiple ISPs seem to have the same problem, while people from outside the Netherlands can access fine .
My ISP is TweakDSL/Cambrium.
RE: Can't access msghelp.net, msgpluslive.net, etc. from the Netherlands by Sunshine on 05-18-2007 at 12:23 PM
* Sunshine is in the same situation...using a web proxy to be here aswell...
Country: The Netherlands
ISP: Orange, ADSL Family
RE: Can't access msghelp.net, msgpluslive.net, etc. from the Netherlands by Ezra on 05-18-2007 at 12:31 PM
I can access the sites fine, Xs4all here.
RE: Can't access msghelp.net, msgpluslive.net, etc. from the Netherlands by Rolando on 05-18-2007 at 12:34 PM
Why would all ISPs block it? Seems odd to me, but it would be a serious loss for MP!L if they really blocked it :/
RE: Can't access msghelp.net, msgpluslive.net, etc. from the Netherlands by Mippo on 05-18-2007 at 12:41 PM
I can't access the forums normally either. I'm using Planet Internet here, also in the Netherlands. Using a proxy.
RE: Can't access msghelp.net, msgpluslive.net, etc. from the Netherlands by Ezra on 05-18-2007 at 12:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by q25
Why would all ISPs block it? Seems odd to me, but it would be a serious loss for MP!L if they really blocked it :/
I don't think they blocked it, isp's in holland don't really block sites, just some child porn sites and such...
I think AMS-IX is having troubles or something, there were some outages yesterday too.
RE: Can't access msghelp.net, msgpluslive.net, etc. from the Netherlands by CookieRevised on 05-18-2007 at 01:02 PM
Belgium here... No problems at all... (using skynet at the moment)
RE: Can't access msghelp.net, msgpluslive.net, etc. from the Netherlands by Menthix on 05-18-2007 at 01:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by cmd.exe
C:\Documents and Settings\MenthiX>ping msgpluslive.net
Pinging msgpluslive.net [64.62.180.104] with 32 bytes of data:
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Ping statistics for 64.62.180.104:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
C:\Documents and Settings\MenthiX>ping msghelp.net
Ping request could not find host msghelp.net. Please check the name and try again.
C:\Documents and Settings\MenthiX>ping files.msgpluslive.net
Pinging files.msgpluslive.net [64.62.180.105] with 32 bytes of data:
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Ping statistics for 64.62.180.105:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
C:\Documents and Settings\MenthiX>tracert msgpluslive.net
Tracing route to msgpluslive.net [64.62.180.104] over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 * * * Request timed out.
2 18 ms 19 ms 19 ms 84.245.22.1
3 19 ms 19 ms 19 ms rx8-1-ve205.tc1.cambrium.net [82.197.223.77]
4 19 ms 19 ms 24 ms gsr12416.ams.he.net [195.69.145.150]
5 40 ms 30 ms 31 ms pos3-1.core1.lon1.he.net [216.66.24.157]
6 99 ms 98 ms 100 ms pos4-1.gsr12416.nyc.he.net [216.218.200.101]
7 177 ms 178 ms 177 ms pos0-1.gsr12416.sjc2.he.net [216.218.223.133]
8 177 ms 178 ms 177 ms 10gigabitethernet2-2.core1.sjc2.he.net [72.52.81.181]
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.
Trace complete.
C:\Documents and Settings\MenthiX>tracert msghelp.net
Unable to resolve target system name msghelp.net.
C:\Documents and Settings\MenthiX>tracert files.msgpluslive.net
Tracing route to files.msgpluslive.net [64.62.180.105] over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 * * * Request timed out.
2 55 ms 45 ms 128 ms 84.245.22.1
3 18 ms 19 ms 19 ms rx8-1-ve205.tc1.cambrium.net [82.197.223.77]
4 20 ms 19 ms 20 ms gsr12416.ams.he.net [195.69.145.150]
5 30 ms 31 ms 30 ms pos3-1.core1.lon1.he.net [216.66.24.157]
6 99 ms 98 ms 100 ms pos4-1.gsr12416.nyc.he.net [216.218.200.101]
7 177 ms 181 ms 176 ms pos0-1.gsr12416.sjc2.he.net [216.218.223.133]
8 * 178 ms 176 ms 10gigabitethernet2-2.core1.sjc2.he.net [72.52.81.181]
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.
Trace complete.
C:\Documents and Settings\MenthiX>
EDIT: The reason for msghelp.net not working at all would be because it's nameserver is at 64.62.180.102, which is in the same range again.
RE: Can't access msghelp.net, msgpluslive.net, etc. from the Netherlands by Ezra on 05-18-2007 at 01:13 PM
5 9 ms 6 ms 5 ms pos3-2.core1.ams1.he.net [216.66.41.153]
6 87 ms 87 ms 87 ms pos3-1.core1.lon1.he.net [216.66.24.157]
7 89 ms 88 ms 88 ms pos4-1.gsr12416.nyc.he.net [216.218.200.101]
8 157 ms 157 ms 157 ms pos0-1.gsr12416.sjc2.he.net [216.218.223.133]
9 165 ms * 168 ms 10gigabitethernet2-2.core1.sjc2.he.net [72.52.81.181]
10 166 ms 157 ms 165 ms 10gigabitethernet1-1.core1.fmt1.he.net [216.218.229.38]
11 159 ms 158 ms 158 ms 64.62.180.104
Very strange
RE: Can't access msghelp.net, msgpluslive.net, etc. from the Netherlands by Sunshine on 05-18-2007 at 01:26 PM
Same results as MenthiX.
Tracerts stopping after 10gigabitethernet2-2.core1.sjc2.he.net [72.52.81.181]
RE: Can't access msghelp.net, msgpluslive.net, etc. from the Netherlands by surfichris on 05-18-2007 at 01:32 PM
It is one of the upstream providers to the Netherlands or Hurricane Electric (HE.net) which is having a problem - most probably them as they're a trashy data centre.
Nothing we can do.
That is pretty evident from the fact it times out at an upstream router and not right before the actual server/direct upstream router.
RE: Can't access msghelp.net, msgpluslive.net, etc. from the Netherlands by John Anderton on 05-18-2007 at 02:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by Sunshine
Same results as MenthiX.
Tracerts stopping after 10gigabitethernet2-2.core1.sjc2.he.net [72.52.81.181]
But ezra's packets seem to go through from that same server
RE: Can't access msghelp.net, msgpluslive.net, etc. from the Netherlands by Menthix on 05-18-2007 at 02:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by John Anderton
But ezra's packets seem to go through
Yes, but Ezra is using another ISP (in fact, he's using a very nice quality ISP i once used too ).
My server (which is located in .nl) hasn't got problems either. Seems to be a problem only with certain dutch ISPs.
RE: Can't access msghelp.net, msgpluslive.net, etc. from the Netherlands by Patchou on 05-18-2007 at 03:08 PM
sorry to hear about that, hope it will be solved soon. I know it's obvious but you should probably contact your ISP about it.
RE: Can't access msghelp.net, msgpluslive.net, etc. from the Netherlands by Menthix on 05-18-2007 at 03:57 PM
If multiple ISPs have the same problem i doubt my own ISP can fix in on their own. But if it continues to go on longer than 24hours i will try anyway. Or maybe contact he.net somewhere.
RE: Can't access msghelp.net, msgpluslive.net, etc. from the Netherlands by Ezra on 05-18-2007 at 06:36 PM
I don't know if there are still problems, but now I'm posting from Speedlinq ADSL powered by BBned.
Also going trough 10gigabitethernet1-1.core1.fmt1.he.net
RE: Can't access msghelp.net, msgpluslive.net, etc. from the Netherlands by Menthix on 05-18-2007 at 06:39 PM
Just tried, and it seems to be working again for me .
RE: Can't access msghelp.net, msgpluslive.net, etc. from the Netherlands by Sunshine on 05-18-2007 at 06:39 PM
I can get through alright again now
RE: Can't access msghelp.net, msgpluslive.net, etc. from the Netherlands by vikke on 05-19-2007 at 06:07 AM
In Sweden, I couldn't reach shoutbox.menthix.net yesterday, but www.msgplus.net worked fine.
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