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Can't access msghelp.net, msgpluslive.net, etc. from the Netherlands by Menthix on 05-18-2007 at 12:17 PM

I'm currently browsing and posting from a web proxy.


Since this morning i can't seem to access any site in the same range as:
msgpluslive.net/.nl/.be/.es/etc. / msgplus.net
msghelp.net
files.msgpluslive.net / download.msgpluslive.net

sounds.msgpluslive.net does work, but that one also has an IP in a different range.

I asked around and more Dutchies from multiple ISPs seem to have the same problem, while people from outside the Netherlands can access fine :(.

My ISP is TweakDSL/Cambrium.


RE: Can't access msghelp.net, msgpluslive.net, etc. from the Netherlands by Sunshine on 05-18-2007 at 12:23 PM

* Sunshine is in the same situation...using a web proxy to be here aswell...

Country: The Netherlands
ISP: Orange, ADSL Family

:(


RE: Can't access msghelp.net, msgpluslive.net, etc. from the Netherlands by Ezra on 05-18-2007 at 12:31 PM

I can access the sites fine, Xs4all here.


RE: Can't access msghelp.net, msgpluslive.net, etc. from the Netherlands by Rolando on 05-18-2007 at 12:34 PM

Why would all ISPs block it? Seems odd to me, but it would be a serious loss for MP!L if they really blocked it :/


RE: Can't access msghelp.net, msgpluslive.net, etc. from the Netherlands by Mippo on 05-18-2007 at 12:41 PM

I can't access the forums normally either. I'm using Planet Internet here, also in the Netherlands. Using a proxy.


RE: Can't access msghelp.net, msgpluslive.net, etc. from the Netherlands by Ezra on 05-18-2007 at 12:41 PM

quote:
Originally posted by q25
Why would all ISPs block it? Seems odd to me, but it would be a serious loss for MP!L if they really blocked it :/

I don't think they blocked it, isp's in holland don't really block sites, just some child porn sites and such...

I think AMS-IX is having troubles or something, there were some outages yesterday too.
RE: Can't access msghelp.net, msgpluslive.net, etc. from the Netherlands by CookieRevised on 05-18-2007 at 01:02 PM

Belgium here... No problems at all... (using skynet at the moment)


RE: Can't access msghelp.net, msgpluslive.net, etc. from the Netherlands by Menthix on 05-18-2007 at 01:09 PM

quote:
Originally posted by cmd.exe
C:\Documents and Settings\MenthiX>ping msgpluslive.net

Pinging msgpluslive.net [64.62.180.104] with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 64.62.180.104:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

C:\Documents and Settings\MenthiX>ping msghelp.net
Ping request could not find host msghelp.net. Please check the name and try again.

C:\Documents and Settings\MenthiX>ping files.msgpluslive.net

Pinging files.msgpluslive.net [64.62.180.105] with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 64.62.180.105:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

C:\Documents and Settings\MenthiX>tracert msgpluslive.net

Tracing route to msgpluslive.net [64.62.180.104] over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  2    18 ms    19 ms    19 ms  84.245.22.1
  3    19 ms    19 ms    19 ms  rx8-1-ve205.tc1.cambrium.net [82.197.223.77]
  4    19 ms    19 ms    24 ms  gsr12416.ams.he.net [195.69.145.150]
  5    40 ms    30 ms    31 ms  pos3-1.core1.lon1.he.net [216.66.24.157]
  6    99 ms    98 ms   100 ms  pos4-1.gsr12416.nyc.he.net [216.218.200.101]
  7   177 ms   178 ms   177 ms  pos0-1.gsr12416.sjc2.he.net [216.218.223.133]
  8   177 ms   178 ms   177 ms  10gigabitethernet2-2.core1.sjc2.he.net [72.52.81.181]
  9     *        *        *     Request timed out.
10     *        *        *     Request timed out.
11     *        *        *     Request timed out.
12     *        *        *     Request timed out.
13     *        *        *     Request timed out.
14     *        *        *     Request timed out.
15     *        *        *     Request timed out.
16     *        *        *     Request timed out.
17     *        *        *     Request timed out.
18     *        *        *     Request timed out.
19     *        *        *     Request timed out.
20     *        *        *     Request timed out.
21     *        *        *     Request timed out.
22     *        *        *     Request timed out.
23     *        *        *     Request timed out.
24     *        *        *     Request timed out.
25     *        *        *     Request timed out.
26     *        *        *     Request timed out.
27     *        *        *     Request timed out.
28     *        *        *     Request timed out.
29     *        *        *     Request timed out.
30     *        *        *     Request timed out.

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\MenthiX>tracert msghelp.net
Unable to resolve target system name msghelp.net.

C:\Documents and Settings\MenthiX>tracert files.msgpluslive.net

Tracing route to files.msgpluslive.net [64.62.180.105] over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  2    55 ms    45 ms   128 ms  84.245.22.1
  3    18 ms    19 ms    19 ms  rx8-1-ve205.tc1.cambrium.net [82.197.223.77]
  4    20 ms    19 ms    20 ms  gsr12416.ams.he.net [195.69.145.150]
  5    30 ms    31 ms    30 ms  pos3-1.core1.lon1.he.net [216.66.24.157]
  6    99 ms    98 ms   100 ms  pos4-1.gsr12416.nyc.he.net [216.218.200.101]
  7   177 ms   181 ms   176 ms  pos0-1.gsr12416.sjc2.he.net [216.218.223.133]
  8     *      178 ms   176 ms  10gigabitethernet2-2.core1.sjc2.he.net [72.52.81.181]
  9     *        *        *     Request timed out.
10     *        *        *     Request timed out.
11     *        *        *     Request timed out.
12     *        *        *     Request timed out.
13     *        *        *     Request timed out.
14     *        *        *     Request timed out.
15     *        *        *     Request timed out.
16     *        *        *     Request timed out.
17     *        *        *     Request timed out.
18     *        *        *     Request timed out.
19     *        *        *     Request timed out.
20     *        *        *     Request timed out.
21     *        *        *     Request timed out.
22     *        *        *     Request timed out.
23     *        *        *     Request timed out.
24     *        *        *     Request timed out.
25     *        *        *     Request timed out.
26     *        *        *     Request timed out.
27     *        *        *     Request timed out.
28     *        *        *     Request timed out.
29     *        *        *     Request timed out.
30     *        *        *     Request timed out.

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\MenthiX>

EDIT: The reason for msghelp.net not working at all would be because it's nameserver is at 64.62.180.102, which is in the same range again.
RE: Can't access msghelp.net, msgpluslive.net, etc. from the Netherlands by Ezra on 05-18-2007 at 01:13 PM

  5     9 ms     6 ms     5 ms  pos3-2.core1.ams1.he.net [216.66.41.153]
  6    87 ms    87 ms    87 ms  pos3-1.core1.lon1.he.net [216.66.24.157]
  7    89 ms    88 ms    88 ms  pos4-1.gsr12416.nyc.he.net [216.218.200.101]
  8   157 ms   157 ms   157 ms  pos0-1.gsr12416.sjc2.he.net [216.218.223.133]
  9   165 ms     *      168 ms  10gigabitethernet2-2.core1.sjc2.he.net [72.52.81.181]
10   166 ms   157 ms   165 ms  10gigabitethernet1-1.core1.fmt1.he.net [216.218.229.38]
11   159 ms   158 ms   158 ms  64.62.180.104

Very strange :P


RE: Can't access msghelp.net, msgpluslive.net, etc. from the Netherlands by Sunshine on 05-18-2007 at 01:26 PM

Same results as MenthiX.

Tracerts stopping after 10gigabitethernet2-2.core1.sjc2.he.net [72.52.81.181]


RE: Can't access msghelp.net, msgpluslive.net, etc. from the Netherlands by surfichris on 05-18-2007 at 01:32 PM

It is one of the upstream providers to the Netherlands or Hurricane Electric (HE.net) which is having a problem - most probably them as they're a trashy data centre.

Nothing we can do.

That is pretty evident from the fact it times out at an upstream router and not right before the actual server/direct upstream router.


RE: Can't access msghelp.net, msgpluslive.net, etc. from the Netherlands by John Anderton on 05-18-2007 at 02:11 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Sunshine
Same results as MenthiX.

Tracerts stopping after 10gigabitethernet2-2.core1.sjc2.he.net [72.52.81.181]
But ezra's packets seem to go through from that same server :S
RE: Can't access msghelp.net, msgpluslive.net, etc. from the Netherlands by Menthix on 05-18-2007 at 02:17 PM

quote:
Originally posted by John Anderton
But ezra's packets seem to go through
Yes, but Ezra is using another ISP (in fact, he's using a very nice quality ISP i once used too :().

My server (which is located in .nl) hasn't got problems either. Seems to be a problem only with certain dutch ISPs.
RE: Can't access msghelp.net, msgpluslive.net, etc. from the Netherlands by Patchou on 05-18-2007 at 03:08 PM

sorry to hear about that, hope it will be solved soon. I know it's obvious but you should probably contact your ISP about it.


RE: Can't access msghelp.net, msgpluslive.net, etc. from the Netherlands by Menthix on 05-18-2007 at 03:57 PM

If multiple ISPs have the same problem i doubt my own ISP can fix in on their own. But if it continues to go on longer than 24hours i will try anyway. Or maybe contact he.net somewhere.


RE: Can't access msghelp.net, msgpluslive.net, etc. from the Netherlands by Ezra on 05-18-2007 at 06:36 PM

I don't know if there are still problems, but now I'm posting from Speedlinq ADSL powered by BBned.

Also going trough 10gigabitethernet1-1.core1.fmt1.he.net


RE: Can't access msghelp.net, msgpluslive.net, etc. from the Netherlands by Menthix on 05-18-2007 at 06:39 PM

Just tried, and it seems to be working again for me :).


RE: Can't access msghelp.net, msgpluslive.net, etc. from the Netherlands by Sunshine on 05-18-2007 at 06:39 PM

I can get through alright again now :)


RE: Can't access msghelp.net, msgpluslive.net, etc. from the Netherlands by vikke on 05-19-2007 at 06:07 AM

In Sweden, I couldn't reach shoutbox.menthix.net yesterday, but www.msgplus.net worked fine.