With little over a month left, lets try to take a guess at who's going to die.
Is it going to be Voldy, Harry or both? Vote and post your comments.

I vote Voldy dies for various reasons. The best being because I want him to despite him being a formidable foe, if Harry dies, I don't think anyone else can kill him. At least that's what the prophecy said.

Dumbledore will rise from his ashes like his phoenix and die again. Ok, that was a stupid prediction but is possible in a book about magic... maybe he has a horecrux lying around somewhere? The thing where you can put your thoughts? One of the ancient relics? They are all possibilities.

If Harry die, the story haven't any sense... Harry is the favourite of all people, I think...

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Originally posted by markee
Ok, that was a stupid prediction but is possible in a book about magic... maybe he has a horecrux lying around somewhere?

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Originally posted by AngelDevil
If Harry die, the story haven't any sense... Harry is the favourite of all people, I think...

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i know there's something un-expected will happen but there's so many things that could happen its hard to guess. =p i reckon dumbledore will come back though.

It is the final book so Harry should die but they can't really keep Voldemort alive as there is no Dumbeldore no more so he should die too .

I think harry will find out he's the last horcrux and the only way to kill voldemort is too kill himself at the same time as fireing the avade kedavra curse.

OR

Harry destroys voldy and then goes onto being minister of magic.

JK said the ending makes it so that it'll be quite hard for someone else to write another book about it... so Harry probably gets pwnt.

Dumbledore may be in the book, but probably doesn't get rezzed - his memories from his pensive may be used to guide Harry or something. Although perhaps Dumbledore used Voldemort as a horcrux so that he can't die until Voldemort does. That'd be kinda cool.

The was a lot of pulling in the sixth book, so there'll probs be more of that. Like Ron will walk in on Harry and Hermione (I can see her dying too, even though she's hot in the films, her character is quite a sub), and he'll be really jealous cause they sort of looked like they were getting together at the end of the last book and will end up getting himself killed because of it, or something.

OT: The font in the Quick Reply box looks nicer on my Ubuntu box than it does on Windows ...

i think that Harry Potter alrady died.....?

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Originally posted by Damokun
I personally HATE the 'Harry's a horcrux' theory.

If you read book six, you'll see that creating horcruxes requires incantations and such, you can't 'accidentally' make somebody a horcrux.
And okay, let's presume Voldemort did make him a horcrux. Why would he try kill his damned horcrux? Why would he make his mortal enemy a horcrux?

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I think that Ron and Hermione might get together also I have a good feeling Harry will die but it will be for something bigger, if you know what I mean.

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Originally posted by John Anderton
I vote Voldy dies for various reasons.

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Originally posted by markee
Dumbledore will rise from his ashes like his phoenix and die again.

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Originally posted by AngelDevil
If Harry die, the story haven't any sense... Harry is the favourite of all people, I think...

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Originally posted by andrewdodd13
Like Ron will walk in on Harry and Hermione, and he'll be really jealous cause they sort of looked like they were getting together at the end of the last book and will end up getting himself killed because of it, or something.

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Originally posted by Damokun
I personally HATE the 'Harry's a horcrux' theory.
If you read book six, you'll see that creating horcruxes requires incantations and such, you can't 'accidentally' make somebody a horcrux.
And okay, let's presume Voldemort did make him a horcrux. Why would he try kill his damned horcrux? Why would he make his mortal enemy a horcrux?

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Originally posted by John Anderton
I doubt Dumby would do that

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Originally posted by ShawnZ
maybe he already did

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Originally posted by Damokun
I personally HATE the 'Harry's a horcrux' theory.

If you read book six, you'll see that creating horcruxes requires incantations and such, you can't 'accidentally' make somebody a horcrux.
And okay, let's presume Voldemort did make him a horcrux. Why would he try kill his damned horcrux? Why would he make his mortal enemy a horcrux?

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Originally posted by Napbree

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Originally posted by Damokun
I personally HATE the 'Harry's a horcrux' theory.

If you read book six, you'll see that creating horcruxes requires incantations and such, you can't 'accidentally' make somebody a horcrux.
And okay, let's presume Voldemort did make him a horcrux. Why would he try kill his damned horcrux? Why would he make his mortal enemy a horcrux?

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Pft if you remember, he uses only important deaths for horcrux's.
So he was obviously ready to do it and maybe did the incantation.

or maybe when the curse backfired on harry it split is soul anyway.

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I am saying it could be harry. Though I think there's a big thing in the fact that the killing curse backfired. And that could be something, i reckon jk rowling is going to say something like that in her next book.

NO SHIT SHERLOCK!

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Originally posted by Napbree
Though I think there's a big thing in the fact that the killing curse backfired. And that could be something, i reckon jk rowling is going to say something like that in her next book.

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Personally, even though I've only read upto the Goblet of Fire, and a quick read about JK saying it'll be hard to carry the series on, Harry won't necessarily die, but somehow, someway loses the magic and becomes a 'muggle' from killing voldy.

Nice idea methos.... I wouldn't have thought of it.... maybe Harry's killing curse kills Voldy and somehow it backfires and makes harry a squib/muggle

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Originally posted by Voldemort
Nice idea methos.... I wouldn't have thought of it.... maybe Harry's killing curse kills Voldy and somehow it backfires and makes harry a squib/muggle

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Originally posted by Damokun
If you read book six, you'll see that creating horcruxes requires incantations and such, you can't 'accidentally' make somebody a horcrux.
And okay, let's presume Voldemort did make him a horcrux. Why would he try kill his damned horcrux? Why would he make his mortal enemy a horcrux?

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Originally posted by andrewdodd13
Dumbledore may be in the book, but probably doesn't get rezzed - his memories from his pensive may be used to guide Harry or something.

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Originally posted by andrewdodd13
Although perhaps Dumbledore used Voldemort as a horcrux so that he can't die until Voldemort does. That'd be kinda cool.

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Everyone. 666.

Harry potter is going to die, i know he will.

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Originally posted by Damokun

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Originally posted by Napbree
Pft if you remember, he uses only important deaths for horcrux's.

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Why yes, you're right. Now if YOU remember, he was most likely going to use Harry's death as his next horcrux. He didn't achieve this so they opt that Nagini is one, using the death of Frank Bryce to split his soul.

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Originally posted by Napbree
So he was obviously ready to do it and maybe did the incantation.

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And? You think just because he killed Harry's parents his soul's just going to jump into the next thing it sees? Nobody knows how the ritual works exactly but we all know that Voldemort chooses his Horcruxes. And I dare say you'd do the incantation on the object after you've killed somebody, not before.

Best example of this, if Nagini is a horcrux, Voldemort didn't know Frank Bryce would be there that night, Nagini informed him that he was outside the door. Avada Kedavra, Frank's dead, THEN Voldemort does his hocus pokus.

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Originally posted by Voldemort
Nice idea methos.... I wouldn't have thought of it.... maybe Harry's killing curse kills Voldy and somehow it backfires and makes harry a squib/muggle

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Well.... not exactly that, but Voldies and harry have a weird connection.... his scar because of the avada kedavra is something that has never been seen before, so instead of killing voldies and ending there it does something to harry... I dunno

but JKR did say the story was going to be hard to continue so

If she makes Harry into a muggle/squib the ending would be so dodgy that I'd fly all the way till the UK just to trout slap her..

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Originally posted by John Anderton
f she makes Harry into a muggle/squib the ending would be so dodgy that I'd fly all the way till the UK just to trout slap her..

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Originally posted by winkie

The other issue is how on earth anyone could get their hands on this and not get caught. I have worked (only telecommuting, unfortunately, and on a non-HP project) with Brad Walrod, who has done the layout for at least three of the American books.

One day I said I just had to ask him, what's it like? And he said that the text and images are given to him by security. He goes to the publisher's offices to do the layout, and every day when he leaves, he would have to prove that he had saved the work so far on an external hard disk, which was locked away, and then wipe the hard drive. Every single day. The computer that the layout is done on is certainly not connected to the internet, or the internal network of the publishers. It is stand alone. When he is done with the whole project, it is couriered to the press.

In addition, when he took the job on, he walked into a boardroom that was filled with an army of lawyers to sign huge stacks of contract. He would lose everything if he leaked, and I'm reasonably sure that this level of security was not provided only for his benefit. They keep the number of people working on this project extremely low, and take enormous legal care with it.

I work in a small publisher's studio. Here's what you need to create a Harry Potter type book in the 2nd millenium:
the writer (Jo)
an editor, possibly two
an illustrator
a layout designer/compositor
a copyeditor, possibly two
a printer (only one has to actually view the book, the press runs mechanically and electronically)

Now granted, swap Jo for a translator, and you need the same team of six to eight for each language edition. But that's extremely small.

Even when you add in security teams, this number is still extremely small. The major leak damage comes when the books go out to the bookstores and begin to tempt the people who work there. Even then, if they're caught (when they're caught, the whole point of leaks is the sharing—if you just read it and kept your mouth shut, who'd know?), the consequences will cost their jobs, and the lawsuit will cost everything else.

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I agree with what darkmark said and its pretty obvious such measures are taken by any company for a book that is so highly anticipated but a very high percentage of the people who read books (ie novels)

btw, why where my posts deleted? there was nothing wrong, it was shawnz' i reported..... should i repost =/? rofl

Which, i forgot to mention, makes this guy a liar

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Originally posted by wannabe hacker

It's amazing to see how much people inside the company have copies and drafts of this book.

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i do 2. i mean if harry was a horcrux then he would hav 2 kill himself 2 kill voldemort and tht wouldnt work bcuz ifhe commited suicide then who would kill voldemort. the prophecy clearly says harry iz the ONLY ONE who can kill voldemort

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Originally posted by the_rebellion
iz ne1 even lokkin at this Thread?

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Okay, What do you guys think will happen?


I want Luna and Neville to get together, they are just so clumsily cute together (gay, i know)
I want to see little redheads at the end of the book.
I want Harry Potter to die.
I wanna see bushy haired kids.
I wanna see another bad guy.
I wanna see the story repeat.


I think I'm going to be dissapointed, I expect too much.

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I can't wait anyway, I'm sure some plot twist will make it worth the wait.

Dumbledore will not come back from the dead, there was no elabroate trick involving dumbledore's animagous being a phoenix or anything. The simple reason is that JKR does follow traditional literary conventions and almost all great stories have the hero facing his/her nemesis alone

Also, I personally think that Snape:

a) heard the whole prophecy and only gave enough information to Voldemort in order to make him go after Harry, therby handing the world the weapon of his own demise.

b) is working for himself, choosing to play the order and the death eaters against each other, giving select information in order to gain favour in both circles and ultimately emerge as the one true victor. (I also think that it'd be nice poetically if it ends with three people, all of whom have had troubled childhoods [we saw from the pensive and the glimpse into Snape's mind that he was beaten as a child and bullied], each fighting each other for their own beliefs.

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Originally posted by saralk
Dumbledore will not come back from the dead, there was no elabroate trick involving dumbledore's animagous being a phoenix or anything.

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Originally posted by saralk
b) is working for himself, choosing to play the order and the death eaters against each other, giving select information in order to gain favour in both circles and ultimately emerge as the one true victor.

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JK recently said (on Jonathan Ross?) that she MIGHT continue the story years and years from now, so killing Harry would seriously mess up her ideas... (if he was dead and she carried on, she couldn't call them "Harry Potter" books anymore, but just books set in the same world)

I had theory when I read  HBP that the pheonix was important. Authors these days don't tend to fill pages with useless events. It's nearly all relevant.

I don't think Snape is evil still. I think he knows something that we don't... (He's my favourite character just because of the actor in the films )

As for people dying, it's most likely going to be Snape and Voldemort to go in this one.

This is just a theory but:
To come back as a ghost, you have to have left some kind of mark (or impression) on the world. Harry looks like his father (but with his mother's eyes ), meaning that they might play an important part in the next book? It might also be a way for Dumbledore to come back and run Hogwarts as a (the first) ghost headmaster

I doubt Dumbledore will come back, because Harry saw dumbledore in the portrait in the headmasters office. And I'm sure he'd already be a ghost otherwise.

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Originally posted by SpunkyLoveMuff
JK recently said (on Jonathan Ross?) that she MIGHT continue the story years and years from now,

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Originally posted by Napbree
I doubt Dumbledore will come back, because Harry saw dumbledore in the portrait in the headmasters office. And I'm sure he'd already be a ghost otherwise.

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    quoteriginally posted by Napbree
    I doubt Dumbledore will come back, because Harry saw dumbledore in the portrait in the headmasters office. And I'm sure he'd already be a ghost otherwise.



Where have you been the last year?
JKR said that Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore is no more, he's dead, dead, dead and is not coming back. That doesn't mean he didn't leave something for Harry, JKR told Daniel Raddcliff that Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore was giving her much trouble...

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Originally posted by Voldemort
Nice idea methos.... I wouldn't have thought of it.... maybe Harry's killing curse kills Voldy and somehow it backfires and makes harry a squib/muggle

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Something inside me is just saying he's not gonna die, and the only other real way it would be hard to continue from the novels would be to remove the magic.

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Originally posted by SpunkyLoveMuff
JK recently said (on Jonathan Ross?) that she MIGHT continue the story years and years from now, so killing Harry would seriously mess up her ideas... (if he was dead and she carried on, she couldn't call them "Harry Potter" books anymore, but just books set in the same world)

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
And who says there is not an, yet unknown, spell to bring Harry back to life or to give somebody magic?

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Originally posted by saralk
CoS: Voldemort tries to get into Harry and Ginny's minds in order to bring himself back from the dead.

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I hope she surprise us.
But i think they'll die both in a very large fight and magicians and muggles will live in harmony in the end

hmmm if Voldemort dies, it's ok, but if Harry dies. . .
no sequels. QED.
meh it'll be annoying if Harry died just now. . .
he should have died ages ago.

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Originally posted by saralk
CoS: Voldemort tries to get into Harry and Ginny's minds in order to bring himself back from the dead.

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Not true, the book as we now know was a horcrux, and the book held instructions to letting the monster live. He could never have come alive, he just possessed ginny.

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Hmmm, *Me* goes and reads the whole series before the new HP book comes out

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Originally posted by Damokun
I really don't see why there's any doubt whether Voldemort will die or not, you can't end such a series with the hero dying and evil winning, it's ridiculous. ._.

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"It is important to fight, and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated."

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I think he means that, you can defeat one evil person but someone will take over.

The hero winning and the enemy dying is sooooooo oldschool and cliché and predictable, maybe that is a reason why it wont happen...

Yep, and JK rowling also said there would be a few un-predictable twists.

I hope they all die and Voldermort lives to rule the world.

It's the ending you always want but never get in such films/series.

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
The hero winning and the enemy dying is sooooooo oldschool and cliché and predictable, maybe that is a reason why it wont happen...

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
spell to bring Harry back to life or to give somebody magic?

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
(I also think HP is hyped up a bit (way) too much, but blah)

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ayjay, Damokun, duck!, Haz, John Anderton, L. Coyote, Nefzen, Phillip, Supersonicdarky and Volv win
Congratulations

Also a note with respect to http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=75...d=836380#pid836380

She did it again. Imo the first time we saw the Elder wand in (real) use was OotP in the duel against Voldemort
I salute the brilliance that is JKR