http://www.programas-gratis.net/php/programa2.php?id_programa=11597

guess there not actually doing anything wrong, but thought i'd mention it, see if patchou wants to contact them ?!
edit:
site needs reporting/contacting.
apparently the site just redirects to the official download link.


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I wonder if they are doing the same dodgy download scam for all the other software on their site.

Hmm, still dodgy showing the paid SMS thing while they redirect to the download without paying.


Anyway, there is another site that is really charging for Plus!:
http://uk.criptosoft.com/programa?id=2367

Besides Plus! they have loads and loads of other freeware and trial software which they all charge for http://uk.criptosoft.com/. I reported them to Google (because the were using AdWords to advertise their site) and Patchou has been trying to get them down too, but no luck so far.

Maybe we have more luck trying it all together complaining to their hoster, Google, or the company they use for their payments, or some  people could inform some of the creator of the other apps being sold there, i'm sure they wont be happy about it either. Just play by the rules and don't DDoS them or something .

(http://uk.criptosoft.com/contacto probably wont do anything, never got a reply)

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Originally posted by toddy
http://www.programas-gratis.net/php/programa2.php?id_programa=11597

guess there not actually doing anything wrong, but thought i'd mention it, see if patchou wants to contact them ?!
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site needs reporting/contacting.

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Originally posted by Voldemort

Actually, what they do is offer the official download link, but if it happens to be down or you like their servers better they charge you  4 USD approx. to download it from them....

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charging somebody for a link isn't copyright infringement, it's stupidity.

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Originally posted by Dane
This still constitutes copyright infringement, they do not have resale permission for Messenger Plus! Live.  I have contacted both websites and informed them that selling Messenger Plus! Live is not authorized and to please remove the links.  Don't worry, I threw in a disclaimer that says I am not an official representative of Messenger Plus! Live and dont own legal rights to it, blah blah blah.  I did cite the laws nicely for them though (Smilie).  It is important that anyone emailing these people or anyone related to them informs them they are not official Messenger Plus! Live Reps or anything and ensure you're respectful of them...We dont want to give Plus! a bad name, even if they are infringing

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Originally posted by MenthiX
Anyway, there is another site that is really charging for Plus!:
http://uk.criptosoft.com/programa?id=2367

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lol, I don't ignore anybody, I just can't always reply to everything.

There are now several companies doing this and so far, none of them ever replied to my emails. I have other more important things to work on (like updates) but I'll keep an eye on them.

So how do you stop this kind of stuff?

If they don't reply to your emails what do you do then?!


P.S: I know you are busy so its ok <3

one way - i guess of stopping em wud be raising noise not with them, but in blogs and leaving comments/reviews etc.

what say?

As for criptosoft.com, informing creators of other freeware sold there might eventually work. If somebody could make some standard message (that doesn't look spammy nor overly official), then we could post it on some of their forums, or mail it to the creators directly.

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Originally posted by MenthiX
If somebody could make some standard message

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Originally posted by MenthiX
then we could post it on some of their forums

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Originally posted by toddy
i think it should be you to write it

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Well, Dane tends to go good at this kind of thing so if he has time, he can create some kinf of standard message for these issues. mplus-support@patchou.com can be used for direct contact with me in the email.

The idea is simple though: asking for money to distribute Plus! is in no way acceptable and no deal can be made about that.

Looks like CriptoSoft cloned itself and is now at goofull.com too.

http://nl.goofull.com/programa/2367/messenger_live__plus.htm is charging money just like CriptoSoft still does. Goofull even has the same comment from the same user, so they share the same database.

They're advertising on msgpluslive.net now too :

grrrr......