Hello,
since a few days my friends annoy me with - for my messenger - unreadable icons. Then I heard about msmsgs PLUS and so found your site.

I am using the pidgin messenger and can't (time problem) and do not want to use the microsoft messenger.

I am using Pidgin (opensource).

Well, pidgin doesn't know anything about msmsgs plus and so tells me ... letters like &##2355 so msmsgs PLUS codes.

As I am programming things, I would build an extension to Pidgin.
Allthough there were some threads about the sourcecode, the sourcecode itself won't be necessary.

As i had seen on my Pidgin, msmsgsPLUS seems to work via the text interface, like HTML, so if a text e.g. shoulg be bold or laughing, etc., there stands sth. like "&#laughing text".

So if you could explain the technic of the code extensions,
I would most probably be able to create a plugin for Pidgin (and perhaps for some other messengers, if their output can be manipulated enough^^)

So you wouldn't need to tell the SourceCode and won't have problems with these msn guys (as i read somewhere) and I (and many others ) would be happy and msmsgs would become more public (of course I would mention about you, who created the framework and link this page, etc.) as it would be (much) more compatible to the non microsoft (and so non adverted ) world.

MfG, (yours sincerly)
Michael

btw.: Can you give me a link about the MSN Messenger Server commands & RFC's with some examples?

MSN Protocol 8:
http://msnpiki.msnfanatic.com/index.php/Main_Page

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Well, pidgin doesn't know anything about msmsgs plus and so tells me ... letters like &##2355 so msmsgs PLUS codes.

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Originally posted by MiG-X
I really don't mind of Pidgin as I use the official client...but I'd really like Plus! for the Pocket PC (official) version of MSN Do we have any change to see it anytime soon?

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Originally posted by MattyRid

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Originally posted by MiG-X
I really don't mind of Pidgin as I use the official client...but I'd really like Plus! for the Pocket PC (official) version of MSN Do we have any change to see it anytime soon?

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I wouldn't think so as there is only 1 developer, Patchou. All development time is devoted to Messenger Plus! as it is with I'm sure it would be well over 250+ lines of code, documentation, etc. already in Plus! I highly doubt that Patchou can devote time to other forms of Messenger.

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Originally posted by MiG-X
I really don't mind of Pidgin as I use the official client...but I'd really like Plus! for the Pocket PC (official) version of MSN Do we have any change to see it anytime soon?

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Originally posted by MattyRid
I'm sure it would be well over 250+ lines of code

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100,000 lines of code is much

an extra engine is a pretty lot work!^^

Am I right if I say, that any interaction between two plus clients works via the chatbox?

ex.: A says B: "&#sound:hello#&", client B's plus engine sees "&#sound:hello#&" and rewrites it: "A says Sound: Hello" and plays the sound hello.wav

Where are the additional files stored?
If yes, how are these files multiplied?
By using the "Send file" function (which would then work like in the example but with a file)?

btw:
Are you coding in VB/VB.Net?

MfG,
Michael

You are right, commands such as sounds are sent through normal messages.  These relate to either a sound stored locally as a default sound or one in the scripts database that matches the id sent.  For the sounds database go to www.msgpluslive.net/sounds/ or mpsounds.net as these are both great for the information.  Any information that is sent between 2 people is done through text in the chats and you should be able to start understanding all the special symbols after you see the same type of message used a few times.  there are the likes of /me as well for actions and /ping to check if someone has plus installed.  Oh and sounds are sent to the database and then to your contact I do believe (I might be wrong on this fact, I personally haven't had much to do with it at all).

As for what Plus! is coded in, it is done in Visual C++ I do believe and the single person who codes it uses the name Patchou.

Thanks for the link^^

Ok, I will read through the page.
Hopefully I can integrate it into Pidgin^^

The msmsgs server (through telnet) is not very "tolerant" to me

I still don't really understand the encryption, but I will try myself with modificating pidgin^^

MfG,
Michael

So,
ich hab versteh jetzt das Sound-Link-system.
Das Problem:
Wo kann ich im inet auf den Sound z.b. mit der ID:
EA20A5339032
Herunterladen?

Wahrscheinlich geht das net so einfach wie mit nem FTP:
open ftp.de
name
geheim
get EA20A5339032.wav
close
quit
Oder?

Wo kann ich diese Soundpacks als diese nicht habender Client herunterladen und . bei mehreren - extracten?

MfG,
Michael

btw: ist mpsounds die einzige downloadadresse? (würde das Ganze einfacher machen^^)

I can't find where now, but Patchou has stated before that no other programs other than Messenger Plus! itself are allowed to access the sound server, as it would just be using up his bandwith without any benefits to his users!

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Originally posted by Dempsey
I can't find where now, but Patchou has stated before that no other programs other than Messenger Plus! itself are allowed to access the sound server, as it would just be using up his bandwith without any benefits to his users!

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The thread Dempsey means was in a thread about a plugin for Trillian that accessed the sounds. It basically allowed Trillian users to hear the Plus! sounds by downloading them from Patchou's servers. Such a thing is not allowed. so in your case it probably isn't either.

You can read Patchou's response here

oh -.-
not good
well,
if it is not wanted that there is a bit more compatibility,
I will stop doing my plugin-.-

But I will still not use msmsgs - I don't want it and it has got problems and so I don't need to think about downloading Plus, if msmsgs allready doesn't work^^

MfG,
Michael

P.S.: plus is still a pretty good idea

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Originally posted by Dempsey

Originally posted by Dempsey
I can't find where now, but Patchou has stated before that no other programs other than Messenger Plus! itself are allowed to access the sound server, as it would just be using up his bandwith without any benefits to his users!

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Michael, you got luck I understand German, but the others here won't so better translate your last post ,)

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Originally posted by mike_2006, translated

So,
I understand now the Sound link system.
The problem:
Where on the web can I download the sound with the ID, e.g.
EA20A5339032 ?

I guess it's not the easy as with an FTP:
open ftp.de
name
secret
get EA20A5339032.wav
close
quit
Or?

Where can I download those soundpacks when I don't have them yet, and if multiple - extract?

Regards,
Michael

btw: is mpsounds the only download address? (would make the thing easier^^)

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Originally posted by mike_2006
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Originally posted by Dempsey
I can't find where now, but Patchou has stated before that no other programs other than Messenger Plus! itself are allowed to access the sound server, as it would just be using up his bandwith without any benefits to his users!

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Doesn't he have a Flatrate? ^^

Oh, and ... how can't it be a benefit to his users, if people using the plugin use the plus service and so get a benefit?

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As a general rule, the sound server must not be accessed from any other software than Messenger Plus!.I thank you for your interest but the sound servers are costly and I can't let other people use it directly, I hope you understand why.

Thanks.

Ok.

If it's not allowed - I won't do no more.

MfG,
Michael
P.S.: Merry Christmas^^

BTW.: Wouldn't there be a possibility to replicate the sounds by p2p?
That means if a client that doesn't have a certain sound asks the person who sent the sound to send the whole raw sound package file. Though msmsgs plus is a rather great modification, this, I think, would be a good extension and lower the usage of the sound db's bandwith a bit^^