[Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features - Printable Version -Shoutbox (https://shoutbox.menthix.net) +-- Forum: MsgHelp Archive (/forumdisplay.php?fid=58) +--- Forum: Messenger Plus! for Live Messenger (/forumdisplay.php?fid=4) +---- Forum: Scripting (/forumdisplay.php?fid=39) +----- Thread: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features (/showthread.php?tid=80171) [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by 0Blackmage0 on 12-17-2007 at 08:32 PM
Sorry about asking for this, but stuffplug's updates are few and far between lately. im looking for a script that will be able to add 2 major functionalitys to WLM 9.0 (i understand that its beta and all. But my system wont open anyhting lower, some bug is my guess) RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by MicroWay on 12-17-2007 at 08:36 PM
quote: About the first one, I've requested it one time... But no script was made (at least I din't see anything).. And, in part of Plus!, one time Patchou have said that he didn't wanted to copy features of others addons (or something like that)... Please, someone correct me if I'm wrong... RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by duck! on 12-17-2007 at 08:42 PM
quote:um, thats not the thing he wants.. He wants, a script that allows you to click the name to edit it, same as the personal message..instead of opening the options to edit the name.. Isn't there a way to force stuffplug 3 on to 8.5? RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by MicroWay on 12-17-2007 at 08:46 PM
Thanks Duck!.... I've read it wrong.... I've cross it... quote:I really don't know... I've stopped using it since the release of WLM 8 (final).... RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by riahc4 on 12-17-2007 at 09:38 PM
quote: Yes. Search the Stuffplug 3 forums. RE: RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by 0Blackmage0 on 12-18-2007 at 02:37 AM
quote: Im not running 8.5, im looking to add these 2 features to 9.0 They are very convinient features that really should be added (by microsoft or a MSG script) RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by MicroWay on 12-18-2007 at 02:51 AM
Than, things will get worst... RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by Shiny Rabbit on 12-18-2007 at 12:19 PM install stuffplug3 onto 8.1 then install 8.5 and it will work RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by MicroWay on 12-18-2007 at 02:53 PM
quote: quote:See??? Your mthod, Shiny Rabbit will work with 9??? RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by 0Blackmage0 on 12-18-2007 at 06:29 PM
quote: quote: This is not the case, i had 8.1 and stuffplug worked fine. Then WLM 8.1 stopped working for me so i changed to 8.5 still nothing. So i upgraded to 9.0 but i really would like to have the two features, since Stuffplug IS NOT COMPATIBLE, it is installed right now but it will not work with 9.0 RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by user13774 on 12-18-2007 at 08:14 PM This topic is in the wrong forum... RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by Quantum on 12-18-2007 at 08:26 PM Well just install the versions that will work with the ad-ons you want. Until updates nothing can happen RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by Oxy on 12-18-2007 at 08:38 PM
There's no point having stuffplug compatible with a beta because: RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by aNILEator on 12-18-2007 at 08:39 PM
FYI SP doesn't even have a WLM9.0 compatible version for private beta testers yet RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by vikke on 12-18-2007 at 08:47 PM The whole library Stuffplug depended on has been changed so much in WLM9 that Stuffplug stopped working. So they'll develop SP4, which will support these new changes in the library. Do not expect it anytime soon though, since the development hasn't started yet. RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by MicroWay on 12-18-2007 at 10:21 PM
Guys... Stuffplug stoped working when since he got WLM 8.1.... RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by aNILEator on 12-18-2007 at 10:57 PM SP3 for 8.5 should be public soon hopefully so it's worth waiting more than someone starting a script RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by TheBlasphemer on 12-19-2007 at 08:38 AM plzdie :/ RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by user13774 on 12-19-2007 at 11:49 AM
quote: Srry TB, people really like the features you add to messenger with SP, but they also don't like to wait for a compatible version with an completely unknown ETA. RE: RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by TheBlasphemer on 12-19-2007 at 12:01 PM
quote: Srry Markus (and all others), but Developers don't like feature stealing. And for your information, some developers have a life, with university, with families, with other things to do besides working full-time on some program for idiots like these guys. RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by markee on 12-19-2007 at 12:42 PM I can assure you that a feature like this probably will never be added by a script anyway because it means editting the message being sent from the user. Personally I think that is a little too much for people around here to do and I am very happy to let TB go for his life on the feature. RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by user13774 on 12-19-2007 at 01:54 PM
quote: Understandable. But this kinda stuff happens when you make a populair piece of software. People get impatient when it requires updating RE: RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by davidpolitis on 12-19-2007 at 02:03 PM
quote: quote:It's not like he's not bothering to do anything and he has a busier life now. RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by user13774 on 12-19-2007 at 04:09 PM Duh, I understand what he said. I also read what he posted on StuffPlug.com. Of course it is not a simple change that needs to be done, but it's still 'updating'. I was just talking in general. RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by 0Blackmage0 on 12-20-2007 at 05:06 AM
TB, Im not trying to ruin your work, or anything... I am a huge fan of Stuffplug and its features, Recently I was forced to switch up to WLM 9.0 (Trust me im not to happy about it, since there are a few features that i really would like to have). There is something funny is going on with my computer so i cant open WLM V8.1 OR V8.5. Given the fact that you have school and family and such, i was just requesting a few features to be added as scripts since there will most likly not be a Stuffplug update for V9.0 for a LONG time. Its not like i have asked someone to recreate the whole thing and implement it into MSG PLUS LIVE!, i was simply looking for a quick fix to hold over until you have time to update stuffplug (at your own pace of coarse). RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by riahc4 on 12-21-2007 at 10:43 AM
quote: Yeah but TB Im sorry but if you have certain users of your product and you dont deliver a updates, people are going to make/use alternatives whether you like it or not. Looks at Vista: Many of Vista's features were made/thought up of years back while Apple released its OSX with those features already implanted since they got the idea from Microsoft and now Vista gets released and of course there are other products that have its same features. TB there comes a point in life whether it is either study or work. I recommend you keep studing and, if you dont want to release the source code, share it with someone you can trust so they can continue development. Maybe talk to Patchou if he would be intrested in merging some Stuffplug code into Plus! RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by markee on 12-21-2007 at 12:03 PM
quote:aren't they the same thing? TB has always been slow with his releases, but he gets them out and does a good job of them. There is no point someone else making them when TB is going to make a more reliabl product. Some script kiddie might try, but they arent going to be in it for the long haul like TB and that is what you have to realise. Furthermore, it is against copyright to profit off someone else's work (even the idea). I know I seem like a bit of a hypocrit with web2live when you look at web2messenger, but at the time of us beginning development W2M was classed as dead by everyone and even TB was saying that he didnt think it was coming back any time soon. RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by MicroWay on 12-21-2007 at 03:13 PM
Well.... Don't have much to coment after this: quote: quote:Good to know that who uses Stuffplug is an Idiot... Good that I don't use it for the simple reason that when WLM was on 8 (and Patchou was making releases) a looong time passed since the realiase of Stuffplug. So I discovered that I could live without the program: now, with what you said, I'm more happy.... Marry Christmas... ScrenShot: Oops... RE: RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by TheBlasphemer on 12-21-2007 at 03:16 PM
quote:Do you think you could rephrase that entire post in decent english ? I would rather not Marry christmas, I hardly know her :/ Edit: and now for the actual response: quote:"these guys" refers to certain people in this thread, like you. I don't see how you can interpret that as "Users of StuffPlug" without a serious lacking in your education of the english language. quote:Wow, that sounds really really impressive. I'm not sure what it actually means though, it's the first time I've actually come across the word "realiase"... quote:Honestly, I couldn't care less about you using StuffPlug or not. Just don't steal my features, that's all I'm asking. RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by MicroWay on 12-21-2007 at 03:35 PM
quote:Well... "program for idiots like these guys." -> You make the program to people like these guys you're refering they are idiots... ... Ok, ok... Let's start again, without fights: I was asking a bit of respect on this post... because ok.... I have to agree with you: as all people you're not a robot and you didn't live only to code.... And you've the idea to make it... for me ok... But you don't have to use a "plz die" or a "program for idiots".. When you came to this post, I was only saying what the post creator said and not request anything... If was that the idea, sorry... So.. let's erase all this and continue our lifes.... RE: RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by TheBlasphemer on 12-21-2007 at 03:44 PM
quote:Wow, you write in an incomprehensible manner, and then when it takes me a while to decipher your post, you think you're funny by modifying your post while I'm reading it? Wow, you amaze me with each and every post :/ quote:My only advise would be to re-read my posts, possibly with a dictionary at your side, and keep reading it till you actually understand what is written there. quote:So now you're losing the battle, and you expect everyone to just ignore it? Just fuck off already :/ RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by MicroWay on 12-21-2007 at 03:46 PM
And you think I'm loosing?? hahahahha.. And you think I mind.... RE: RE: RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by davidpolitis on 12-21-2007 at 08:42 PM
quote:You complain about his English, yet you've made some errors yourself. :/ quote:He was referring to the people in the thread. RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by riahc4 on 12-21-2007 at 09:07 PM
quote:Fixed my post. Sorry about that quote:Yep...Thats why Linux/OSX/Windows/etc is are all illegal since they are based on Xerox. :rollseyes: Dont talk shit out of your mouth, please. quote:1: Noone is stealing your features. Only borrowing your ideas; He doesnt copy your code so it is not stealing. 2: Don't make fun of someone's spelling of a certain language. It is childish and AFAIK your first language isnt english either. quote: He wrote the post in Word, proofed it, then posted the reply. Its too obvious lol. RE: RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by davidpolitis on 12-21-2007 at 09:12 PM
quote:You tell him to not talk shit from his mouth, yet you always make grammatical mistakes. Also, what you're saying is totally different. quote:Yes. I so badly did. Unlike you, English is my first language. Even if you search all of my computer, you will not find Word or anything alike. RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by MicroWay on 12-21-2007 at 10:02 PM
quote:Don't worry..... hehehe.... quote:hahah.. I just wrote it directly on the post... Didn't use Word English here isn't the first language (as you said it right)... quote:Please... can we try to start making polite posts again??? I know you're no guilty about all, but, please.... quote: quote:Thanks both .... RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by CookieRevised on 12-21-2007 at 10:17 PM
The "idiots" in this thread requested what any user of any program would request if that program isn't being updated anymore for a long time... RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by Spunky on 12-21-2007 at 10:36 PM
I wouldn't be too happy if someone stole a feature that I had made. This is the same principle as someone making a program that can tab conversation windows and add script functionality (although MP!L is still very much alive and is therefore a different case really). RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by Patchou on 12-21-2007 at 10:55 PM
TB, don't insult people on my forum. RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by riahc4 on 12-22-2007 at 01:56 AM
quote: I was talking about his "Furthermore, it is against copyright to profit off someone else's work (even the idea). " comment not your/his english. quote:Again I was not talking about you. I was talking about TB. quote: and why are we (including you cookie) idiots for requesting a update to a program and/or a script that does that same program? Explain... quote:TB didnt make those features; He just wrote them in code and implanted them his way A prime example: Plus! has had a 1100 character booster; Stuffplug has a 5000 character booster. Stuffplug "borrowed" the idea from Plus! and implanted it in its own (and this case) better way. RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by vikke on 12-22-2007 at 09:08 AM
quote:This is not the case. Plus! didn't want to boost the character limit too much, so they added a limit for 1100. When TB saw it was possible to boost up to 5000, probably told Patchou about it. I would call that abuse on the Messenger-server, when the actual limit is 600 or something. That's why it wasn't lengthen in Plus!, but TB decided to add this feature into Stuffplug 3. TB improved this feature because Patchou didn't want to. RE: RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by CookieRevised on 12-22-2007 at 09:47 AM
quote:hu? That's exactly the entire point of many posts in this thread. Read the entire posts/thread to understand what is being discussed here and that idiots is the term used by TB which I quoted (literally with quotes) to emphasize that nobody is an idiot here. You even use this same way of writing and quoting in your own posts.... :/ quote:Plus! doesn't boost it to 5000 because it can give problems in some cases. In that aspect I don't call TB's implementation an improvement or a better way. More like a (calculated) risk which might fail in some cases, and like vikke said, "abusing" the system. Remember what happened when the enlarged DP feature was implemented and abused by a lot of people? With adding such features also comes responsebility and one should think twice what the consequences might be when implementing such features. Such stuff is (righfully) not done in Plus!, which goes first for stability and compatibility. There is somewhere an ancient post about this from Patchou also... Anyways, all this is beside the point... RE: RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by Shiny Rabbit on 12-22-2007 at 11:09 AM
quote: no, WLM9 doesn't work with stuffplug at all, i find WLM9 to be completly worthless at this time though i would very much like to see chat-only name, open URLs in default browser and taskbar icon reflect's contact's status in a future version of plus rather than having to wait 50 years for the next stuffplug release... if there is going to be one RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by riahc4 on 12-22-2007 at 11:31 AM
quote: I think there has been alot of misunderstanding here from what I can see. Yes but even though it gives problems (the booster) it is implanted and the feature is borrowed from Plus! but the code is implanted in TB's ("better"; note the quotation marks cookie ) own way. He didnt steal a Plus! feature; He just "improved" it TB you shouldnt be talking either as I remember that the original size display picture was not your idea; it was thought up of by wtbw and you just took the idea and implanted in stuffplug; I dont know what your complains are. RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by aNILEator on 12-22-2007 at 11:48 AM
Not wanting to offend TB or insult his work as have lots of respect for both, so I'll just lay down a fact and see what you guys think. RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by Sunshine on 12-22-2007 at 12:50 PM
quote:Sorry to butt in here but unless you know exactly if, how and which developers communicate with eachother and about what you should not be pointing fingers. In fact don't point fingers at all, all it does is provoke. Devs can fight out such stuff between themselves (off forums). I can understand TB got annoyed at the tought of someone copying or tryin to copy features he's spend ages on developing, yet his wording could have been different. Let's just leave it at that. RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by riahc4 on 01-10-2008 at 07:32 PM
quote: You Sunshine like I have been here a while and I believe you also know (and TB himself has said it) that wtbw helped him do the original size DP feature in SP.... There is nothing you can say about that. RE: [Request] 2 MAJOR stuffplug features by aNILEator on 01-10-2008 at 07:57 PM
yes HELP not stole |