Bill Gates (my best friend ) announce that his engineers are working at the development of Internet Explorer 8, and that probably a first beta it's going to be published in the first three months of the 2008.. And the cool news is that IE8 (also called IE.next) passed the Acid2 test in WebStandars... Straaange!!! What do you think about this?? And why about you Microsoft is going to release Messenger 2008, after the recently release of Messenger 2008 (i tell about official versions), IE8 after the recently release of IE7, Vista SP1 after Vista???? Apple and Mozilla incoming??

I don't think Apple and Mozilla have much to worry about, Microsoft is developing new software, but it is still years behind what other companies have produced and there has been a huge quality dip in recent years. Quiet simply Microsoft has gained a reputation of releasing unpolished programs.

The only reason IE is the most used it because its default with windows.

i dont get it.  for 4 years microsoft dont release another ie till vista, now vista has come out a year later they are making another ie. wtf.

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Originally posted by Discrate
i dont get it.  for 4 years microsoft dont release another ie till vista, now vista has come out a year later they are making another ie. wtf.

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Originally posted by Discrate
for 4 years microsoft dont release another ie till vista, now vista has come out a year later they are making another ie.

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Originally posted by vaccination
MS are trying to keep people using their browser by stealing everyone elses features. And badly coding them

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Originally posted by Dane


Its not like Firefox didnt steal any features either, all browsers steal from eachother, its not just an Internet Explorer thing.  And none of their features are "Badly Coded", they behave/operate as expected.  Personally, I cannot wait for IE8, I think IE7 was a great release.

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I have seen the screenshots and I can't understand why they almost deleted the Menu bar in IE7 and now they are doing so huge Menu bar like Office 2007 menu bar...

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Originally posted by warmth
I have seen the screenshots and I can't understand why they almost deleted the Menu bar in IE7 and now they are doing so huge Menu bar like Office 2007 menu bar...

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oh ok... thanks for the info Dane...

I will use firefox 3, internet explorer is an awful browser , it crashes, looks horrible and badly coded, i doubt Internet exploer 8 will be any better

I'm having a problem with IE7 and latest releases of Adobe Flash Player since 2 years ago and I always wait for every update to solve this problem and nothing happens (it still crash when I visit www.acmilan.com and don't display the titles in www.espndeportes.com)... I hate it...

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Originally posted by duck!
I will use firefox 3, internet explorer is an awful browser , it crashes, looks horrible and badly coded, i doubt Internet exploer 8 will be any better

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Originally posted by Dane
Also, Firefoxes appearance is awful and cluttered compared to IE7's, even with the skinning in Firefox it continues to look bad

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Dane Firefox is completely customizable you can get rid of any icons you want or adjust the spacing between icons or delete toolbars etc etc. So there's no way you can say it's crowded. It looks no different from most browsers tbh

Internet Explorer 8 all the way for me

It always has, and always will be, all about Microsoft for me.  I only use non Microsoft programmes when there isn't a Microsoft alternative.  The products are always polished, reliable and exactly what you ask for, no hidden surprises.   And they never create any compatibility issues cos they're all designed to run together

Microsoft all the way for me

For me, I will use IE8....
I never had problems with it... Even with the flash webpages and online games....

I have no idea why we are speculating as we have really no idea what IE8 is going to be like... for all everyone knows here it could truly be better than FF3 (unlikely but very possible - don't forget the resources Microsoft has available).

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Originally posted by absorbation
I don't think Apple and Mozilla have much to worry about, Microsoft is developing new software, but it is still years behind what other companies have produced and there has been a huge quality dip in recent years. Quiet simply Microsoft has gained a reputation of releasing unpolished programs.

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There really isn't much point arguing over which one is better, because people are unlikely to swap based on a few opinions, they usually have to try it for themselves. Personally, Firefox is great, but i'm waiting to see what MS can produce in IE8, because I think they have potential.

Heh, but with places in firefox 3 and awesomebar I cant see anyone swapping back, hell i know tones of people who will swap just for awesomebar alone

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Originally posted by Dane
but Firefox 2 currently fails the Acid2 test at this time too, so they're both improving upon that at the same time.

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Also, Firefoxes appearance is awful and cluttered compared to IE7's

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Originally posted by Chestah
ha.. i don't think Microsoft has much to worry about either... their market share is barely feeling FF and Opera and i imagine in the future new releases of IE, as they become more up to a FF standard, will convert people back.

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so basicially to sum up this thread... IE could use dt

Firefox all the way for me, which has been the case since i moved to Firefox 1, i like the way it works, the memory leak can be easily fixed, it doesnt look cluttered and the options are easy to navigate, top browser for me, but i will try IE8 because IE7 isn't to bad. But Firefox will always be the top of my list.

I try both of them... Now I've Firefox 2, it's nice expecially because it have plugins and extension, I like Google View for example. But when I open it, it load for 5-6 seconds in my pc... too! And so I prefer to use IE7, that load in 2-3 seconds.

If I create a website, it's logical that I need to try it with Firefox... try for example to use www.msghelp.it with IE7 (many errors) or with Firefox (nothing errors!).. but if IE8 respect rules of WS and W3C, i think that I use it...

I have to admit I have had more problems with IE then Firefox, also on Firefox it is way easier to customise it which is great. What I hate about IE is the fact that it is so cluttered, with all the extra bars and all.
Firefox is the future people

Hiding all userbars so that people can't find them is not clean ¬_¬

There's a wealth of good skins for Firefox. Using the Nasa Night Launch skin atm, it's hot and fits well with Vista. The design is completely customizable as Nile said.

Not to mention all of Firefox 3's new features

Personally IE7 on my computer loads quickly but i find it to be extremely laggy with certain websites such as myspace, where as Firefox 2/3 load the website quickly and my computer doesn't lag which just drives me insane on IE7.

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Personally IE7 on my computer loads quickly but i find it to be extremely laggy with certain websites such as myspace, where as Firefox 2/3 load the website quickly and my computer doesn't lag which just drives me insane on IE7.

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so basicially to sum up this thread... IE could use dt

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I don't have a problem with IE7, but I prefer Firefox 2 because of all the features it has which IE doesn't: add-ons, themes, (loads more), etc. You can personalise FF2 a lot more. You just use IE how it comes.

Personally, I use Firefox 2. I'm comfortable with it and i love the addons and built in search. I haven't upgraded to IE7 because of all the negative press I heard about it. My IT dept has also recommended that nobody should upgrade to IE7 on company computers either, due to compatibility issues.