stuarts and my combined 365 theme now released

Below are the threads to mine and stuarts previous skins which are now included in this new 365 skin pack

http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=80136

http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=80108

heres a screenshot



(Change Log V2.50)
•    365 Auto –Theme Technology
•    Improve Corners
•    About Box
•    Added Graphics Packs
•    Added Willz Modern Emoticons
•    Skin Options Panel Revamped
•    Min, Max & Close Buttons Redesigned
•    Showmenu is now an FLW button
•    Contact list buttons redesigned
•    Chat toolbar buttons redesigned
•    Chat window formatting toolbar buttons redesigned
•    Chat Window Handwriting toolbar buttons redesigned
•    More Dashboards Added
•    Hide Advertisements (CL, CW & FSW)
•    Hide Links (LW)
•    DP added to login screen
•    Show DP in (CCL)
•    DP resizing options added to skin options (DCL)
•    Added options to remove plus, scripts and colorize buttons (CL & CW)
•    Added options to remove all buttons from formatting bar in chat window
•    Added options to remove all buttons from handwriting bar in chat window
•    Added options to remove input bar buttons in chat window
•    Added Toolbar Alignment to Options (CL, CT, MCT & FT)
•    Optional dashboard position
•    Customized Tabbed Chat Bar


(Themes List)
•    Default
•    Birthday
•    St Dwynwens Day
•    Valentines Day
•    Shrove Tuesday
•    Lent
•    Kissing Friday
•    St Davids Day
•    Mothers Day
•    St Pirans Day
•    St Patrick's Day
•    Spring
•    April Fools Day
•    Easter
•    St Georges Day
•    Fathers Day
•    Summertime
•    St Swithuns Day
•    Autumn
•    Halloween
•    Bonfire Night
•    Remembrance Day
•    St Andrews Day
•    Winter
•    Christmas
•    St Stephens Day

Download 365 Skin V2.50

in 3.00 we plan to add 7 new themes

•    Added New Years Theme
•    Added Leap Day Theme
•    Added Love Making Day Theme
•    Added 7/7 Theme
•    Added Wedding Theme
•    Added Wedding Anniversary theme
•    Added Messenger Plus’s Birthday Theme

as well as buddy packs so you can choose which buddy style you want to use, we also hope to be able to organise the options panel in to nicely organised tabs so that options are easy to find by category creating less confusion as to what they do.

so stay tuned and enjoy this release.

Cool, but fix the corners of the contact list, convo window and log in window, but other than that it looks good

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mine and stuarts

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Oh thanks for the rep, glad my tutorials helped

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Originally posted by duck!
Cool, but fix the corners of the contact list, convo window and log in window, but other than that it looks good

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hey Nile, not sure which tutorials you helped Jason with although i am grateful, but you definately helped me build my summertime theme with those tutorials of yours, you have been a massive help to both of us on this skin and its just a shame that we cannot do more to than you than just giving you a +1 rep point.

ive submitted the skin to the database hopefully we will hear back later today, mind you last time it took several days to get confirmation back.

anyways merry christmas everyone and enjoy the skin

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hey Nile, not sure which tutorials you helped Jason with although i am grateful, but you definately helped me build my summertime theme with those tutorials of yours, you have been a massive help to both of us on this skin and its just a shame that we cannot do more to than you than just giving you a +1 rep point.

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Just learn from them, appreciate them and help others

You could always paypal me

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SonicSam #2?

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yes david you did help out and i really appreciate that, i have had so many people helping me on summertime themes developement i have sorta lost track of everyone who helped, so if i havent publicly thank anyone else on here uyet its not that i dont appreciate your help or am denying you helped its just ive lost track.

so to everyone who has graciously donated there time to helpine in the past 2 weeks, you all know who you are so give yourselves a big pat on the back you have really earned it. ive not heard anything back from menthix yet about whether this skin made it into the database.

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Just learn from them, appreciate them and help others

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your welcome jason, it was entirely my idea to combine our skins, i saw a post from someone in the christmas skin thread who suggested it and i thought it sounded like a good idea, that in turn inspired me to take the project further.

Yeah it was a great idea and I know your not here over christmas so I will try and get as much of the skin on our to do list done as possible

Hopefully I will have a spring theme added to it

sounds good jason, we have added transparency to convo winmdow to improve its appearance

Yeah it works well just trying to work out how to change the colour of the text in the contact list at the moment

Does anyone know how to change the colour of the contact list text

I think that the last release of the christmas theme (1.58) is better then the one you have inside the 365 theme... is a more pulish one... or is the same one??? but where is the option to take the bg off???

I sorry to tell you that I don't like the default skin...

umm, can you please post a screenshot?

dont like just instlling skins ;o

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Originally posted by warmth
I think that the last release of the christmas theme (1.58) is better then the one you have inside the 365 theme... is a more pulish one... or is the same one??? but where is the option to take the bg off???

I sorry to tell you that I don't like the default skin...

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umm, can you please post a screenshot?

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Jeez how hard is it to post a screenshot.



A link straight to your skin in the database would be nice also. People here are lazy.

Lol I will add a link in the first post linked to the database as people are "lazy"

It's in the first post and here http://www.msgpluslive.net/skins/view/20-365-Skin/

maybe you should check my Old School Messenger thread and take it as a example for your first post...

so basically tell the user absolutely everything, however in the christmas skin thread jason did that but to a little lesser degree and was told in no uncertain terms his first post was too long.

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so basically tell the user absolutely everything, however in the christmas skin thread jason did that but to a little lesser degree and was told in no uncertain terms his first post was too long.

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ok warmth, you said you want the background removal option restored however with a multi themed skin this will cause all sorts of problems, the best i can probably do is add a theme called "none" in which you only have the default look and feel of messenger and in that theme the skin would just be a glorified patch.

the default theme was built to be very basic its only purpose is that when you import for the first time you can see a skin has imported and loaded whereas had i done a none skin as default it wouldve loaded but user wouldnt realise it, i couldnt use a themed skin as the default because if it was imported at the wrong time of year it wouldnt look cool to the user.

please advise if the none theme is considered to be a more preferable option. i will attempt to make these changes over the weekend aswell as a few other enhancements me and jason have been working on.

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ok warmth, you said you want the background removal option restored however with a multi themed skin this will cause all sorts of problems, the best i can probably do is add a theme called "none" in which you only have the default look and feel of messenger and in that theme the skin would just be a glorified patch.

the default theme was built to be very basic its only purpose is that when you import for the first time you can see a skin has imported and loaded whereas had i done a none skin as default it wouldve loaded but user wouldnt realise it, i couldnt use a themed skin as the default because if it was imported at the wrong time of year it wouldnt look cool to the user.

please advise if the none theme is considered to be a more preferable option. i will attempt to make these changes over the weekend aswell as a few other enhancements me and jason have been working on.

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so basically tell the user absolutely everything, however in the christmas skin thread jason did that but to a little lesser degree and was told in no uncertain terms his first post was too long.

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Excatly I did do that in my christmas theme thread but got told it was wa too long so I cut half the stuff out to shorten it down

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so basically tell the user absolutely everything, however in the christmas skin thread jason did that but to a little lesser degree and was told in no uncertain terms his first post was too long.

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Excatly I did do that in my christmas theme thread but got told it was wa too long so I cut half the stuff out to shorten it down

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Warmth suggested to shorten the change log a bit, not to cut the important information like DB link, screenshots, compatibily information, etc....

(though, I personaly don't see a problem in a long change log myself - better to give a bit too much info than too little info)

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thanks cookie we will bare that in mind on our next release, speaking of which i have been coding up some major new features to the skin tonight, mainly in the christmas theme so far but i will be moving on to the other themes over this weekend so a new version could be on the horizon in the not too distant future.

Yeah a new pack with some new skins added into it so watc this space

ok what we want to do is in the skin options panel we want to add a preview box so when you select a theme it shows you a preview of what that theme looks like in the same way in which when you select a skin in plus preferences you can see a preview of how the skin looks.

how can this be done.

EDIT:

365 Skin V2.00 has now been released see the first post for details, its been submitted to the database but is awaiting menthix's approval, unfortunately even @ 4.64 MB's the absolute smallest we could get it its still too large to post as an attachment on the forum so for now youll have to wait until its in the database, me and jason will look into getting some webspace at some point so as to do a dedicated site for our skins but have been working on this skin for 7 whole weeks now so havent had time as yet.

EDIT:

we have now released a site for this skin UK Skins United we hope you like the site and of course the skin.

Version 2.0 of the skin is now released (However hasn't been updated in the database)

Please refer to the previous post made by Stuart and also you can read the first post for more details

Please feel free to leave comments

Enjoy the skin we hope you like it after 7 long weeks of working on the skin

Version 2.00 is now in the database

You can also down load it from here http://www.freewebs.com/ukskinsunited/skins.htm

Please download it and leave any comments/suggestions in this thread please

As well as UK events this also has the 4 seasons in it

I think you've focussed on some weird ass events and forgotten some others like new years (or so it seems from the image)

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I think you've focussed on some weird ass events and forgotten some others like new years (or so it seems from the image)

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i wasnt sure about new years as id always assumed it tied in to christmas, like freak said we are open to suggestions and are happy to add extra themes if demand is high enough. menthix has done a good job on constructing that screenshot as we were not sure how many themes to include in the skins screnshot.

Will no doubt use around Christmas time

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Will no doubt use around Christmas time

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Yeah a new year theme will be added by the end of this year with other ones suggested

If you want you can leave a suggestion on our website via the contact page

yeah the contact page sends email to a newly created shared mailbox which me and jason both have access to, we have had a suggestion to implement 9.0 compatability, we will provide this in a future release however we havent decided whether to have seperate versions say one copy for 9.0 and another for 8.5 or whether we will have both versions made compatable in a single file.

we have already decided on a few new things to do in the next version, more details will be given soon.

We have made a few changes to the skin pack and another version may be released soon

Is there any suggestions we can add before we release our next version

well i did a fair bit of work this weekend but theres still a fair bit to be done it is looking good though. we will keep you posted on how things are progressing but as jason said any ideas will be welcomed, we acknowledge a need to add 9.0 compatability at some point but arent sure whether to do that in the next release or wait until 9.0 is released as a finished product which i heard rumors i think from willz that it might happen about 2009 we will let you know what we decide.

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i have done a whoile load of work to the skin this weekend and last weekend and its really starting to take shape now, we are now left with 2 major tasks to add before we can release.

code in Blessed Pack Options (created by blessedguy)
add 7 new themes

we have created a screenshot for this new version and version number is going to be V2.50.

while you wait patiently i have decided to give you a screenshot of our now completed skin options panel so you can see just what we have been working towards.





enjoy

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i have received feedback about my options panel regarding what do the abbreviations mean so here is what they mean.

Skin Options Abbreviations:
    (LW) = Login Window
    (CL) = Contact List
    (CCL) = Compact Contact List
    (DCL) = Detailed Contact List
    (BP) = Blessed Pack
    (CT) = Chat Toolbar
    (MCT) = Mobile Chat Toolbar
    (FT) = Formating Toolbar
    (HFT) = Handwriting Formating Toolbar
    (IB) = Input Bar

thats everything i use in there so far i hope that clears everything up for everyone.

as you can see from stuarts screenshot our skin is coming along in leaps and bounds, we have now implemented an early version of auto-theme technology, this means whenever the theme is set to "365 Auto-Theme" it will automatically set itself to the right theme based on the date range restrictions.

we are close to being ready, i am working on modifying a few of the options so as to make a new graphics pack feature, this will mean things like scrollbars, dp's and buttons etc will come in an array of colours or in their default states, we are also making and option to choose between different sets of FLW Buttons (min, max & close) and to choose between sets of buddy images.

i hope to have all that done by end of the first week in april, once thats all done i plan we plan to release it as version 2.50.

we had planned for 7 new themes to be added but those will need to be added in a later release due to unforeseen circumstances, also we have a few ideas we want to implement but the current technology in plus 4.6 doesnt yet make it possible to do everything we ultimately would want to add, stuart will shortly be updating the screenshot in the post directly above so as to let you see how things have progressed.

Maybe add a preview option for every single one of them options if possible, as that is going to be one hell of a task for someone to look at and say ermm, ok i was overwhelmed by simply looking at it.

i'd change flw description only skinners will know what it is and even i forgot what they were

and tidy up your graphics those are nasty

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Maybe add a preview option for every single one of them options if possible, as that is going to be one hell of a task for someone to look at and say ermm, ok i was overwhelmed by simply looking at it.

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i'd change flw description only skinners will know what it is and even i forgot what they were

and tidy up your graphics those are nasty

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oh ok, ill work on fixing those

I am hoping to get as many images done as possible I am in an akward position as my laptop screen seems to be dodgey I have to hold the right side of the screen or apply pressure to the back of it so once I get the images done I can send it off so may not be on here for a while

Also I have been very busy with my life lately so that has delayed a few things but I am hoping the planned 7 new themes will be added before the new release

its ok jason, i know your working your hardest around your current situation, i am waiting a few graphics back from blessedguy for one of the features the skin will have, also cause of a bug in messenger i have to change my replace on the scrollbars to a <new> instead of a <replace> to overcome the bug so i have to manual recode about 40 or 50 uifiles which ill be attempting to do this coming weekend.

then i still have a bit of work to do restructuring the skininfo file and also now theres this grahics issue on the about box to sort out lol, so as you can see i am going to be flat out trying to acheive the desired release date myself, when we get to it let me know how much of them is done, if your close then ill wait for you if not then we can discuss further at that time.

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its ok jason, i know your working your hardest around your current situation, i am waiting a few graphics back from blessedguy for one of the features the skin will have

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its ok jason, i know your working your hardest around your current situation, i am waiting a few graphics back from blessedguy for one of the features the skin will have

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I think they wil be finished by sunday! (I've only got fridays, saturdays and sundays to do everything not related to studying...)

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great news everyone 365 V2.50 has been released, its been in the database for about a day now but we didnt want to update the posts here until it was in the database, i hope you all enjoy this release and please dont hesitate to tell us about any features you want added or any bugs you might find and we will be happy to take the information on board.

hi everyone

i know i havent been posting on here much in the last three months since 2.50 was released, the reason is that at present developement of 365 has hit a wall, im next to useless at designing complex backgrounds and little fidly graphics, those however are the very types of graphics i require in order to build the 7 new themes needed to proceed any further with 365.

as the other outstanding tasks for 365 3.00 need to be applied to all the themes im waiting for these graphics to be created first, yes you guessed it Jason (freak544) is the one who is charged with developing these graphics, im guessing he still hasnt got round to sending off his laptop to be repaired as yet hence while you havent heard from either of us recently.

let me assure you im using this time to collect feedback and anything suggested for improving 365 will be researched and experimented with during this time, im online every day and constantly monitor these forums and the contact form over at ukskinsunited so please don't hesitate to give me your opinions.

on a technical note, i got Menthix's email this morning advising us developers to prepare our skins for Messenger Plus!'s 4.70 release and autoupdate feature, i made the necesarry changes to my skin this morning and removed the 6 new skins from the theme list that as yet have no underlying functionality built on them yet so as to make the skin a bit more user friendly, i submitted to the database this morning and its now V2.60, these literally are the only changes so theres no great urgency to upgrade but obviously id prefer it if you do anyway as atleast then your guaranteed compatability with plus! 4.70.

anyway thanks for taking the time out of your busy schedules to read this rather long note and ill let you know once we start making any serious developements to 365 again.

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hi everyone

i know i havent been posting on here much in the last three months since 2.50 was released, the reason is that at present developement of 365 has hit a wall, im next to useless at designing complex backgrounds and little fidly graphics, those however are the very types of graphics i require in order to build the 7 new themes needed to proceed any further with 365.

as the other outstanding tasks for 365 3.00 need to be applied to all the themes im waiting for these graphics to be created first, yes you guessed it Jason (freak544) is the one who is charged with developing these graphics, im guessing he still hasnt got round to sending off his laptop to be repaired as yet hence while you havent heard from either of us recently.

let me assure you im using this time to collect feedback and anything suggested for improving 365 will be researched and experimented with during this time, im online every day and constantly monitor these forums and the contact form over at ukskinsunited so please don't hesitate to give me your opinions.

on a technical note, i got Menthix's email this morning advising us developers to prepare our skins for Messenger Plus!'s 4.70 release and autoupdate feature, i made the necesarry changes to my skin this morning and removed the 6 new skins from the theme list that as yet have no underlying functionality built on them yet so as to make the skin a bit more user friendly, i submitted to the database this morning and its now V2.60, these literally are the only changes so theres no great urgency to upgrade but obviously id prefer it if you do anyway as atleast then your guaranteed compatability with plus! 4.70.

anyway thanks for taking the time out of your busy schedules to read this rather long note and ill let you know once we start making any serious developements to 365 again.

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furthermore i am now declaring UK Skins United as in liquidation

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just thought id let all our fans know whats happening.

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Is it really difficult for you to update the skin? I mean, with some effort you could start skinning again, UI Files format is almost the same as in 8.5, just few changes...

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Don't really see the huge struggle, i've only just started skinning, and 2009 really isn't that hard to pick up, it takes a little while but I got the hang of it quite quickly Hoping to release my skin soon too.

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Don't really see the huge struggle, i've only just started skinning, and 2009 really isn't that hard to pick up, it takes a little while but I got the hang of it quite quickly Hoping to release my skin soon too.

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i have tried going through the 2009 UI Files, the problem is that absolutely none of the elements i modified in 8.5 can be found in the 2009 files, for example according to 2009's UI Files theres no buttons in 2009 at all, the buttons for mail etc in the contact list don't have any code in the UI Files for them so are thus uneditable,

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A simple search of the definition files, and a bit of patience for a couple of weeks to figure it all out is all it needs. Not being able to modify the mail button on the other hand is ridiculous, a search for MailBtn is all you need to do basically. But on the other hand, gl in the future.

willz when i learned skinning for 8.5 it was relatively easy, everybody had written loads of tutorials on the subject and your skinning guide was extremely using in navigating the UI Files, but since the release of 2009 nobody has bothered to write any tutorials for working with the new version and you have already said you won't compile a new skinning guide to help us understand the new version.

if there were some kind of reference to know what number ui files to related to which windows then i might indeed stand half a chance but as nobody can seem to be bothered to actually take the time to write that information down for others to follow it makes skinning on 2009 far to complicated for the average user, only people with your level of experience who have been skinning messenger for decades can decipher the new ui files the normal user like me is just far to overwhelmed by the complexity of the new files and there structure that they cannot for the life of them figure these new files out.

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willz when i learned skinning for 8.5 it was relatively easy, everybody had written loads of tutorials on the subject and your skinning guide was extremely using in navigating the UI Files, but since the release of 2009 nobody has bothered to write any tutorials for working with the new version and you have already said you won't compile a new skinning guide to help us understand the new version.

if there were some kind of reference to know what number ui files to related to which windows then i might indeed stand half a chance but as nobody can seem to be bothered to actually take the time to write that information down for others to follow it makes skinning on 2009 far to complicated for the average user, only people with your level of experience who have been skinning messenger for decades can decipher the new ui files the normal user like me is just far to overwhelmed by the complexity of the new files and there structure that they cannot for the life of them figure these new files out.

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willz when i learned skinning for 8.5 it was relatively easy, everybody had written loads of tutorials on the subject and your skinning guide was extremely using in navigating the UI Files, but since the release of 2009 nobody has bothered to write any tutorials for working with the new version and you have already said you won't compile a new skinning guide to help us understand the new version.

if there were some kind of reference to know what number ui files to related to which windows then i might indeed stand half a chance but as nobody can seem to be bothered to actually take the time to write that information down for others to follow it makes skinning on 2009 far to complicated for the average user, only people with your level of experience who have been skinning messenger for decades can decipher the new ui files the normal user like me is just far to overwhelmed by the complexity of the new files and there structure that they cannot for the life of them figure these new files out.

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maybe danny and i might have been more receptive to try and i wasn't under the constant pressure of having to do the whole thing all by myself when i skinned 8.5 i was getting help from jason with the graphics but when nobody can help you at all with anything and the whole projects on my shoulders i can't cope with the pressure if someone will agree to help me then i might reconsider but i cannot do it on my own.

Most skinners do the majority of the work alone

And there's plenty of support in the skinning forum here.

There's more posts per thread in the skinning forum than the scripting forum......and I'm sure you'd agree that scripting is a much more established and developed part of Plus!

So it's not like you'd be having to do it alone

Of course it's up to you whether you continue skinning, but a little effort can go a long way

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Most skinners do the majority of the work alone

And there's plenty of support in the skinning forum here.

There's more posts per thread in the skinning forum than the scripting forum......and I'm sure you'd agree that scripting is a much more established and developed part of Plus!

So it's not like you'd be having to do it alone

Of course it's up to you whether you continue skinning, but a little effort can go a long way

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maybe danny and i might have been more receptive to try and i wasn't under the constant pressure of having to do the whole thing all by myself.

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It sounds to me that you just don't want to put any effort in.

The new UI files are barely any different from the old ones.  90% of the content is still the same.  The principles of skinning are all the same.

You obviously haven't searched the forum either, as there's been a full list of what number relates to what window for two months:

mynetx's reply to Definition and Styles Id's

Not to mention the fact that most of the names are revealed when you extract the resources.

Just put a bit of effort in and it'll soon be rewarded....there's really not much change from 8.5 skinning.....and it's not meant to be something that's easy.

It can take months of trial and error to get a skin how you want it......but that's what makes it worth it.

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sorry willz i wasn't trying to discourage anyone, i think i did get the mail button to show/hide in contact list however its the only button in the contact list so how do i create the others to show/hide? as for the graphics i know a friend who is a graphics designer we both used to be part of a gaming community called superdudes, she's going to look at the version of 365 thats currently in the skins database over this coming weekend and will then let me know if she can help me with the graphics.

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i think i did get the mail button to show/hide in contact list however its the only button in the contact list so how do i create the others to show/hide?

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i think i did get the mail button to show/hide in contact list however its the only button in the contact list so how do i create the others to show/hide?

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Simple: as before =)
If you really don't know how to, just take a look at skins that does that, like Guéna's, Willz's, mynetx's, mine, and some others, you'll see that, as everybody already, nothing has really changed that much, because of the people who worked hard at Plus! 4.80 and Messenger's UI files.
Just don't say everything has changed and that everything is harder and simply impossible: it just denotes that work everyone had with this new version was worth nothing.
The rest, I agree with djdannyp and Willz.

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Willz's UIB format is just plain .txt with its extension changed to .uib, just open it with any text editor... Mine and Guéna's are just plain .txt and have no .msnrle images.
First, ask what you want to, we might be able to answear! =) Maybe when you asked it, nobody had already managed to do it.

blessedguy please refer to the edit in my post above.

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<*PlusSkin Conditions(MailBtn1 = true) *>
<Button Id=atom(mailbtn) CmdId=40198 AccRole=57 Accdesc=rcstr("msgr",4227) ShortcutString=rcstr("msgr",4226) Class="TransparentButton" AccName=rcstr("msgr",4228) AccDefAction=rcstr("msgr",20500) Layout=FlowLayout(0,2,0,2) Active=7 Padding=Rect(0,0,0,0)>
<Element Layout=FillLayout()>
<element class="ToolbarIcon" content=rcimg("msgr",1480) Id=atom(idMailIcon)/>
<Element Layout=FillLayout() Padding=Rect(12,8,0,0)>
<Element Id=atom(mailcount) Class="ToolbarButtonItemCount" FontSize=rcint("msgr",20957)pt ContentAlign=middlecenter/>
</Element>
</Element>
</Button>
<*/PlusSkin*>
<PlusSkin Conditions(MailBtn1 = false) *>
[b]<Button Id=atom(mailbtn) CmdId=40198 AccRole=57 Accdesc=rcstr("msgr",4227) ShortcutString=rcstr("msgr",4226) Class="TransparentButton" AccName=rcstr("msgr",4228) AccDefAction=rcstr("msgr",20500) Layout=FlowLayout(0,2,0,2) [i]layoutpos=none[/i] Active=7 Padding=Rect(0,0,0,0)>
<Element Layout=FillLayout()>
<element class="ToolbarIcon" content=rcimg("msgr",1480) Id=atom(idMailIcon)/>
<Element Layout=FillLayout() Padding=Rect(12,8,0,0)>
<Element Id=atom(mailcount) Class="ToolbarButtonItemCount" FontSize=rcint("msgr",20957)pt ContentAlign=middlecenter/>
</Element>
</Element>
</Button>[/b]
<*/PlusSkin*>

---

xml code:

---

<Button Id=atom(mailbtn) CmdId=40198 AccRole=57 Accdesc=rcstr("msgr",4227) ShortcutString=rcstr("msgr",4226) Class="TransparentButton" AccName=rcstr("msgr",4228) AccDefAction=rcstr("msgr",20500) Layout=FlowLayout(0,2,0,2)<PlusSkin Conditions(RemMailBtn = true) *> layoutpos=none<*/PlusSkin*> Active=7 Padding=Rect(0,0,0,0)>

---

regardless of whether i use your code or mine all i get is the following skin trace error

xml code:

---

09/03/19 17:48:33| **** The trace has started ****
09/03/19 17:48:33| Skin: 365 Skin 2.70
09/03/19 17:48:33| Messenger version: 14.0.206.8064 (en-us)
09/03/19 17:48:33| Messenger Plus! version: 4.80.356
09/03/19 17:48:33| SkinLoader: couldn't encode data for window 923
09/03/19 17:48:33| Attribute pair is invalid. Line (def): 131. Column: 12

---

That's because there's errors in the code posted

Using his second excerpt of code, there's a missing asterisk in the opening 'PlusSkin' tag

And in the first excerpt there's a rogue [/b] tag in the second from bottom line as well as a missing asterisk in the opening PlusSkin tag (which is also an error in your posted code)

I didn't correct the code =P Just copy-pasted it from his post, and [/b] and [/i] were bold and italic tags, that didn't get replaced because of the [/code] =)
anyways, it is

xml code:

---

<Button Id=atom(mailbtn) CmdId=40198 AccRole=57 Accdesc=rcstr("msgr",4227) ShortcutString=rcstr("msgr",4226) Class="TransparentButton" AccName=rcstr("msgr",4228) AccDefAction=rcstr("msgr",20500) Layout=FlowLayout(0,2,0,2)<*PlusSkin Conditions(RemoveMailBtn = true) *> layoutpos=none</*PlusSkin*> Active=7 Padding=Rect(0,0,0,0)>

---

i fixed the errors you mentioned danny, heres the code:

xml code:

---

<*PlusSkin Conditions(MailBtn1 = true) *>
<Button Id=atom(mailbtn) CmdId=40198 AccRole=57 Accdesc=rcstr("msgr",4227) ShortcutString=rcstr("msgr",4226) Class="TransparentButton" AccName=rcstr("msgr",4228) AccDefAction=rcstr("msgr",20500) Layout=FlowLayout(0,2,0,2) Active=7 Padding=Rect(0,0,0,0)>
<Element Layout=FillLayout()>
<element class="ToolbarIcon" content=rcimg("msgr",1480) Id=atom(idMailIcon)/>
<Element Layout=FillLayout() Padding=Rect(12,8,0,0)>
<Element Id=atom(mailcount) Class="ToolbarButtonItemCount" FontSize=rcint("msgr",20957)pt ContentAlign=middlecenter/>
</Element>
</Element>
</Button>
<*/PlusSkin*>
<*PlusSkin Conditions(MailBtn1 = false) *>
<Button Id=atom(mailbtn) CmdId=40198 AccRole=57 Accdesc=rcstr("msgr",4227) ShortcutString=rcstr("msgr",4226) Class="TransparentButton" AccName=rcstr("msgr",4228) AccDefAction=rcstr("msgr",20500) Layout=FlowLayout(0,2,0,2) layoutpos=none Active=7 Padding=Rect(0,0,0,0)>
<Element Layout=FillLayout()>
<element class="ToolbarIcon" content=rcimg("msgr",1480) Id=atom(idMailIcon)/>
<Element Layout=FillLayout() Padding=Rect(12,8,0,0)>
<Element Id=atom(mailcount) Class="ToolbarButtonItemCount" FontSize=rcint("msgr",20957)pt ContentAlign=middlecenter/>
</Element>
</Element>
</Button>
<*/PlusSkin*>

---

Post you whole definition pls?

xml code:

---

<*PlusSkin FileKind(def) MsgVer(5) PlusVer(1) */>
<Element ResID=Scrollbar/>
<PopupMenu2 ResID=UXEditMenu Sheet=-1>
<MenuItem2 Icon=rcimg(20250) Text=rcstr(20250) CmdId=11/>
<MenuItem2 Icon=rcimg(20251) Text=rcstr(20251) CmdId=12/>
<MenuItem2 Icon=rcimg(20252) Text=rcstr(20252) CmdId=13/>
<MenuItem2/>
<MenuItem2 Text=rcstr(20253) CmdId=17/>
</PopupMenu2>
<Button ResID=PartnerAdButton id=atom(PartnerAdToolbarButton) layout=BorderLayout() class="PartnerAdToolbarButton" active=7 margin=Rect(0,0,2,0) ContentAlign=middlecenter>
<ButtonIcon Class="PartnerAdToolbarButton" LayoutPos=left/>
<ButtonText Class="PartnerAdToolbarButton" LayoutPos=client/>
</Button>
<element ResID=residSocialNewsImage layout=FillLayout()>
<htmlview id=atom(sniImageHtmlView) active=3 yscrollable=false/>
</element>
<element ResID=residSniBulletedListItem layout=BorderLayout() padding=Rect(10,0,0,0)>
<element layoutpos=left fontface="Marlett" content="i" active=0 contentalign=topleft padding=Rect(0,2,2,0)/>
<htmlview id=atom(sniListItemHtmlView) active=3 yscrollable=false/>
</element>
<element ResID=residSniListItemNoBullet layout=BorderLayout() padding=Rect(10,0,0,0)>
<element layoutpos=none fontface="Marlett" content="i" active=0 contentalign=topleft padding=Rect(0,2,2,0)/>
<htmlview id=atom(sniListItemHtmlView) active=3 yscrollable=false/>
</element>
<element ResID=residSniTableListRow layout=TableLayout(1,3,18,-2,-2,-2) padding=Rect(10,2,2,0)>
<htmlview id=atom(sniListItemHtmlViewCol1) class="tableListStyle" active=3/>
<htmlview id=atom(sniListItemHtmlViewCol2) class="tableListStyle" active=3/>
<htmlview id=atom(sniListItemHtmlViewCol3) class="tableListStyle" active=3/>
</element>
<element ResID=residSniListContent id=atom(sniBodyListContents) layoutpos=client layout=FlowLayout(2,0,0,0)/>
<element ResID=residSniRichEditContent layoutpos=none layout=FillLayout()>
<htmlview id=atom(sniRichEditContentHtmlView) active=3 yscrollable=false/>
</element>
<element ResID=residSocialNewsItem id=atom(sniSocialNewsItem) layout=BorderLayout() tooltip=false>
<element layoutpos=left layout=BorderLayout()>
<element layoutpos=none id=atom(sniChicletContainer) padding=Rect(10,5,5,5)>
<element id=atom(sniChiclet) width=12rp height=12rp borderthickness=Rect(1,1,1,1) bordercolor=rgb(255,0,0)/>
</element>
</element>
<element layoutpos=top class="sniTitleClass" layout=FillLayout()>
<element id=atom(sniTitle) layout=FillLayout()/>
</element>
<element layoutpos=client layout=FillLayout()>
<element id=atom(sniBody) layoutpos=none layout=BorderLayout() padding=Rect(0,5,0,0)>
<element id=atom(sniFloatLeftContainer) layoutpos=left layout=FlowLayout(0,0,0,0)/>
<element id=atom(sniBodyContents) layoutpos=client layout=FillLayout() MinSize=Size(400,0)/>
</element>
</element>
</element>
<element ResID=mainwndresid id=atom(mainwndroot) Sheet=0 layout=FillLayout()>
<element id=atom(content) layout=BorderLayout()/>
</element>
<element ResID=mainContentResID id=atom(maincontent) Sheet=0 layout=FillLayout() layoutpos=client class="noncaptionable">
<Element Layoutpos=auto Layout=FillLayout()>
<Element Layout=BorderLayout()>
<Element id=atom(mainwndcontainer) Layoutpos=client Layout=FillLayout() Background=rcbkd(21032) Class="HIGStandardFont">
<Element Layout=BorderLayout()>
<Element id=atom(header) Layoutpos=top Height=0/>
</Element>
<Element id=atom(vapor) ContentAlign=rcint(21079)/>
<Element Layout=FillLayout()>
<Element layout=BorderLayout()>
<element layout=FillLayout() layoutpos=top>
<MeArea id=atom(idMeArea) layout=FillLayout()>
<Wallpaperview Id=atom(idMeAreaScene) Thumbnail=false Active=0 Enabled=false/>
<Element Id=atom(idMeAreaControls) Layout=BorderLayout() Active=1 AddBehavior=Msgr::Curl()>
<Element layoutpos=client layout=BorderLayout() MinSize=Size(0,rcint("msgr",654)) Active=1>
<Element layoutpos=left layout=FlowLayout(2,2,0,2) padding=Rect(0,0,0,0) id=atom(UsertileDropTarget) AddBehavior=DUI::DropTarget("DropTarget")>
<Button Active=3 Layout=FillLayout() Cursor=hand class="UserTileWrapperClass" cmdid=309 AddBehavior=UXContacts::PIP([337]) AccName=rcstr("msgr",46486)>
<Element Active=1 Layout=FlowLayout(1,0,0,2) ContentAlign=middleleft AddBehavior=UXContacts::Usertile("Me::ContactType","Me::Status","Me::Usertile",false,false,false,true,false,false,false,false,false,false) Class="UXUsertile" Width=79 Height=79 ID=atom(idMeAreaUserTile) Accessible=false AddBehavior=UXContacts::FetchUsertile("Me::Contact","Me::UsertileLocation",10,0)>
<Element ID=atom(UXUTileSizing) Layout=FillLayout()>
<Element Layout=FillLayout()>
<Element ID=atom(UXUTilePadding) Layout=FillLayout() LayoutPos=none>
<Element ID=atom(UXUTileImagePrimary) Direction=0/>
<Element ID=atom(UXUTileImageSecondary) Direction=0/>
<Element ID=atom(UXUTileOverlay) AddBehavior=DUI::Fade()/>
</Element>
</Element>
<Element ID=atom(UXUTileFrameBottom)/>
<Element ID=atom(UXUTileFrameTop)/>
</Element>
</Element>
</Button>
</Element>
<Element id=atom(SceneDropTarget) Layout=BorderLayout() LayoutPos=client AddBehavior=DUI::DropTarget("DropTarget")>
<element layoutpos=client layout=BorderLayout() padding=Rect(0,11,0,0)>
<element layoutpos=client layout=FlowLayout(2,0,0,0)>
<element id=atom(meareafirstline) layout=FillLayout()>
<element layout=BorderLayout() layoutpos=left>
<Button class="TransparentDropdownButton" layout=BorderLayout() layoutpos=client margin=Rect(0,0,0,0) AccName=rcstr("msgr",61128) id=atom(statuschooser) cmdid=55006 AccDesc=rcstr("msgr",61129) ContentAlign=bottomright>
<element layoutpos=client layout=BorderLayout() ContentAlign=middlecenter padding=Rect(2,0,0,2)>
<element height=20rp layoutpos=left/>
<element layoutpos=left Layout=FillLayout()>
<emoticontext layoutpos=left id=atom(idFriendlyName) maxvisiblelines=1 active=0 Padding=rcrect("msgr",9006) AddBehavior=DUI::Glow(rcint("msgr",9007),rcfloat("msgr",9008),rcclr("msgr",9009),rcclr("msgr",9010))/>
</element>
<element layoutpos=client id=atom(idStatus) Padding=Rect(0,0,0,2) active=0 AddBehavior=DUI::Glow(rcint("msgr",9007),rcfloat("msgr",9008),rcclr("msgr",9009),rcclr("msgr",9010))/>
</element>
<element layoutpos=right Class="TransparentDropdownButtonCaret" padding=Rect(0,2,2,2)/>
</Button>
</element>
</element>
<Element class="TransparentSplitButton" layout=BorderLayout() layoutpos=client margin=Rect(0,0,0,0) id=atom(idPSMContainer)>
<element layoutpos=client layout=BorderLayout() padding=Rect(2,2,0,2)>
<Button Id=atom(idPSMSelector) LayoutPos=client Layout=FlowLayout(2,3,2,3) AddBehavior=UXContacts::EditablePSM(atom(PSMEdit),"Me::PSM",true,false,false,rcbkd(44998),1,0) AccName=rcstr("msgr",61189) AccDesc=rcstr("msgr",61131) Tooltip=true Active=3>
<EmoText id=atom(PSMEdit) URLDetect=false Accessible=true AddBehavior=DUI::Glow(rcint("msgr",9007),rcfloat("msgr",9008),rcclr("msgr",9009),rcclr("msgr",9010)) Class="NoMusic" AccName=bind(property:"Me::PSM") AddBehavior=Msgr::Url() Active=0/>
<Element Id=atom(idCurrentSong) Layout=BorderLayout() Visible=false Active=0 AddBehavior=DUI::ShowHide()>
<Element id=atom(idSongIcon) Active=0/>
<UrlElem id=atom(idSongText) Layout=FlowLayout(2,2,2,0) layoutpos=left cmdid=50205>
<WLEditT Id=atom(idSongInnerText) Active=0 AddBehavior=DUI::Glow(rcint("msgr",9007),rcfloat("msgr",9008),rcclr("msgr",9009),rcclr("msgr",9010))/>
</UrlElem>
</Element>
</Button>
</element>
<Button layoutpos=right id=atom(idSplitButtonSplit) CmdId=56607 AccDesc=rcstr("msgr",61191) ContentAlign=topright Class="TransparentSplitButtonCaret" padding=Rect(2,2,2,2) AccName=rcstr("msgr",61190)/>
</Element>
</element>
</element>
<Element LayoutPos=right Layout=BorderLayout()>
<Element LayoutPos=top Layout=BorderLayout()>
<Element LayoutPos=client/>
<Element LayoutPos=right Layout=FillLayout()>
<Animator Id=atom(idCurl) ContentAlign=topright/>
<Animator Id=atom(idPaintBrush) ContentAlign=topright/>
<Button Id=atom(idPersonalize) ContentAlign=topright CmdId=316 Accessible=true AccRole=57 AccName=rcstr("msgr",8161) AccDesc=rcstr("msgr",8161) Tooltip=true Visible=true Cursor=hand/>
</Element>
</Element>
<Element LayoutPos=bottom Layout=FlowLayout(1,0,0,2)>
<Button Id=atom(oimbtn) Cmdid=40207 AccRole=57 AccDesc=rcstr("msgr",4248) ShortcutString=rcstr("msgr",4247) Class="TransparentButton" AccName=rcstr("msgr",4249) AccDefAction=rcstr("msgr",20500) Layout=FlowLayout(0,2,0,2) Active=7 Padding=Rect(0,0,0,0)>
<element class="ToolbarIcon" content=rcimg("msgr",619)/>
</Button>
<*PlusSkin Conditions(MailBtn1 = true) *>
<Button Id=atom(mailbtn) CmdId=40198 AccRole=57 Accdesc=rcstr("msgr",4227) ShortcutString=rcstr("msgr",4226) Class="TransparentButton" AccName=rcstr("msgr",4228) AccDefAction=rcstr("msgr",20500) Layout=FlowLayout(0,2,0,2) Active=7 Padding=Rect(0,0,0,0)>
<Element Layout=FillLayout()>
<element class="ToolbarIcon" content=rcimg("msgr",1480) Id=atom(idMailIcon)/>
<Element Layout=FillLayout() Padding=Rect(12,8,0,0)>
<Element Id=atom(mailcount) Class="ToolbarButtonItemCount" FontSize=rcint("msgr",20957)pt ContentAlign=middlecenter/>
</Element>
</Element>
</Button>
<*/PlusSkin*>
<*PlusSkin Conditions(MailBtn1 = false) *>
<Button Id=atom(mailbtn) CmdId=40198 AccRole=57 Accdesc=rcstr("msgr",4227) ShortcutString=rcstr("msgr",4226) Class="TransparentButton" AccName=rcstr("msgr",4228) AccDefAction=rcstr("msgr",20500) Layout=FlowLayout(0,2,0,2) layoutpos=none Active=7 Padding=Rect(0,0,0,0)>
<Element Layout=FillLayout()>
<element class="ToolbarIcon" content=rcimg("msgr",1480) Id=atom(idMailIcon)/>
<Element Layout=FillLayout() Padding=Rect(12,8,0,0)>
<Element Id=atom(mailcount) Class="ToolbarButtonItemCount" FontSize=rcint("msgr",20957)pt ContentAlign=middlecenter/>
</Element>
</Element>
</Button>
<*/PlusSkin*>
</Element>
</Element>
</Element>
</Element>
</Element>
</MeArea>
</element>
<element id=atom(mainwndframe) layout=FillLayout() layoutpos=client>
<element layout=BorderLayout()>
<element id=atom(MainUI) layoutpos=client layout=FillLayout() class="noncaptionable">
<element layout=BorderLayout()>
<element layoutpos=top height=90rp background=rcbkd("msgr",626)/>
<element layoutpos=bottom height=165rp background=rcbkd("msgr",625)/>
<element layoutpos=client background=rcclr("msgr",85)/>
</element>
<Element layoutpos=client layout=BorderLayout() padding=Rect(0,0,0,5)>
<AddressBook id=atom(ContactList) layoutpos=client MenuDui=1001 Views=[[50106,rcstr("msgr",46220),1002,"BuddyList"],[50107,rcstr("msgr",46221),1002,"BuddyList"]]/>
<Element id=atom(idWhatsNewMainWindowSlideShow) accessible=true accRole=57 accName=rcstr("msgr",62101) layoutpos=bottom layout=FillLayout() tooltip=false>
<element id=atom(snssLoadingContentContainer) class="snss" layoutpos=none layout=BorderLayout()>
<element layoutpos=top height=rcint("msgr",4009) background=rcbkd("msgr",4000)/>
<element layoutpos=client layout=FlowLayout(2,0,0,0) padding=Rect(15,0,10,5)>
<hyperlink id=atom(snssFeedLinkLoading)/>
<WLEditT padding=Rect(2,5,0,0) accessible=true tooltip=true accdesc=rcstr("msgr",62122) accRole=42 content=rcstr("msgr",62122) richeditstyle=0x02|0x04|0x20|0x400|0x1000 maxvisiblelines=2 contentalign=endellipsis/>
</element>
</element>
<element id=atom(snssNoContentContainer) class="snss" layoutpos=none layout=BorderLayout()>
<element layoutpos=top height=rcint("msgr",4009) background=rcbkd("msgr",4000)/>
<element layoutpos=client layout=FlowLayout(0,2,0,1) padding=Rect(15,0,10,5)>
<hyperlink id=atom(snssFeedLinkNoContent)/>
<element accessible=true tooltip=true accdesc=rcstr("msgr",62126) content=rcstr("msgr",62126) accRole=42 contentalign=endellipsis padding=Rect(2,0,0,1)/>
</element>
</element>
<element id=atom(snssContentContainer) class="snss" layoutpos=none layout=BorderLayout()>
<button id=atom(snssSeparatorButton) layoutpos=top class="snssSeparatorButtonUp" height=rcint("msgr",4009) active=7/>
<element layoutpos=client layout=BorderLayout() padding=Rect(15,0,10,0)>
<element layout=BorderLayout() layoutpos=client>
<element layoutpos=top layout=BorderLayout()>
<element layoutpos=left layout=FlowLayout(32,2,0,2)>
<hyperlink id=atom(snssFeedLink)/>
<Element Layout=FlowLayout(0,1,0,1) margin=Rect(15,0,0,0)>
<Button ID=atom(snssPrevious) LayoutPos=left AccName=rcstr("msgr",62102) AccDesc=rcstr("msgr",62103) Active=7 class="SlideShowBtnPrev" margin=Rect(4,0,4,0) AddBehavior=Msgr::HideGlyph()/>
<Button ID=atom(snssNext) LayoutPos=left AccName=rcstr("msgr",62104) AccDesc=rcstr("msgr",62105) Active=7 class="SlideShowBtnNext" margin=Rect(4,0,4,0) AddBehavior=Msgr::HideGlyph()/>
</Element>
<button id=atom(snssOptionsIcon) active=7 content=rcimg("msgr",3009) accessible=true accrole=43 accName=rcstr("msgr",62143) accDesc=rcstr("msgr",62144) margin=Rect(10,0,0,0) tooltip=true AddBehavior=Msgr::HideGlyph()/>
</element>
<element id=atom(snssDate) layoutpos=right layout=FlowLayout(0,2,0,2)>
<element id=atom(snssDateTimeAgo) padding=Rect(5,0,0,0) accessible=true tooltip=true accrole=42 contentalign=endellipsis/>
</element>
</element>
<element id=atom(snssSocialNewsItemContainer) layoutpos=client layout=FillLayout() padding=Rect(2,5,0,0)/>
</element>
<element layout=FlowLayout(1,0,0,2) layoutpos=right>
<element id=atom(snssImagePreviewContainer) layoutpos=none layout=FlowLayout(0,0,0,0)>
<element id=atom(snssImagePreview) layoutpos=none layout=FlowLayout(0,0,0,0) padding=Rect(5,0,0,0)/>
</element>
</element>
</element>
</element>
</Element>
</Element>
</element>
<Element layoutpos=bottom layout=BorderLayout() id=atom(TabsAndAds) background=rcbkd("msgr",628)>
<element background=rcbkd("msgr",627) height=6 layoutpos=top/>
<element layoutpos=top padding=Rect(4,0,4,0) layout=BorderLayout()>
<Toolbar Layout=BorderLayout() margin=Rect(0,0,0,8) id=atom(idPartnerAdsToolbar) layoutpos=top>
<element id=atom(TabElement) LayoutPos=client Layout=BorderLayout() padding=Rect(15,0,10,0)>
<ToolbarControls id=atom(PartnerAdToolbarContainer) ChevronAlign=6 AddBehavior=Msgr::PartnerAdToolbarBehavior() AddBehavior=DUI::TabGroup()>
<ToolbarChevron id=atom(PartnerAdToolbarChevron) Class="PartnerAdChevronButton" Active=7 ContentAlign=middleright/>
</ToolbarControls>
</element>
</Toolbar>
<Constrainer layoutpos=top ID=atom(SSConstrainer) Layout=FillLayout()>
<SlideShowWithAd ID=atom(AdBanner) Layout=FillLayout() Padding=Rect(3,0,8,0) LayoutPos=client Active=1>
<UrlElem ID=atom(idHouseAd) Layout=FlowLayout(2,0,0,3) Direction=0 Padding=Rect(8,2,0,2)>
<Element Layout=FillLayout() borderthickness=Rect(1,1,1,1)>
<Element Width=234rp Height=60rp Content=rcimg("msgr",1472)/>
</Element>
</UrlElem>
<Element Id=atom(AdBrowserCont) Layout=FlowLayout(2,0,0,3) Visible=false Padding=Rect(8,2,0,2)>
<element id=atom(adbannercontainer) layout=FillLayout() borderthickness=Rect(1,1,1,1)>
<adbrowser id=atom(adbrowser) width=234rp height=60rp layoutpos=none Accessible=true AccName=rcstr("msgr",4263) AccDesc=rcstr("msgr",4263) AccRole=30 DefaultADTimerMS=25000 bordercolor=rcclr("msgr",74) DLControl=1024 DocHostUIFlags=0x04|0x08|0x20|0x200|0x40000000/>
</element>
</Element>
<Element ID=atom(SSV) Layout=BorderLayout() Visible=false>
<UrlElem ID=atom(SSVImgUrl) LayoutPos=left Layout=FillLayout() Tooltip=true Accessible=true AccName=rcstr("msgr",49806) AccRole=30 Active=3 Padding=Rect(8,0,7,0)>
<HttpImage ID=atom(SSVImg) Width=92rp Height=69rp borderthickness=Rect(1,1,1,1) bordercolor=rcclr("msgr",20755) LayoutPos=client ContentAlign=middlecenter flip=false Active=0 Accessible=false/>
</UrlElem>
<Element LayoutPos=client Layout=BorderLayout() Padding=Rect(0,0,2,0)>
<Element LayoutPos=top Layout=BorderLayout()>
<UrlElem ID=atom(SSVTitle) LayoutPos=client Foreground=rcclr("msgr",20747) Fontface=rcstr("msgr",20953) FontSize=rcint("msgr",20958)pt ContentAlign=middleleft|endellipsis Tooltip=true AccRole=30 ShowAmpersand=false/>
</Element>
<UrlElem ID=atom(SSVDesc) Fontface=rcstr("msgr",20953) FontSize=rcint("msgr",20958)pt LayoutPos=client ContentAlign=wrapleft|endellipsis|editcontrol Tooltip=true AccRole=30 ShowAmpersand=false Height=32rp/>
<Element LayoutPos=bottom Layout=BorderLayout() MinSize=Size(139,0)>
<Element Layout=BorderLayout() LayoutPos=left>
<Element Layout=FlowLayout(0,1,0,1) ContentAlign=middleleft LayoutPos=client margin=Rect(4,0,4,0)>
<UrlElem ID=atom(SSVPlayBtn) AccName=rcstr("msgr",49802) AccDesc=rcstr("msgr",49802) AccRole=30 LayoutPos=left Active=7/>
</Element>
<Element Layout=FlowLayout(0,1,0,1) LayoutPos=right padding=Rect(0,4,0,2)>
<Button ID=atom(SSVPrev) LayoutPos=left AccName=rcstr("msgr",4278) AccDesc=rcstr("msgr",4278) Active=7 class="SlideShowBtnPrev" margin=Rect(4,0,4,0)/>
<Button ID=atom(SSVNext) LayoutPos=left AccName=rcstr("msgr",4277) AccDesc=rcstr("msgr",4277) Active=7 class="SlideShowBtnNext" margin=Rect(4,0,4,0)/>
</Element>
</Element>
<Element ID=atom(SSTitle) ContentAlign=middleleft|endellipsis Margin=Rect(10,0,0,0) LayoutPos=client Tooltip=true Accessible=true AccRole=42 Active=0/>
</Element>
</Element>
</Element>
</SlideShowWithAd>
</Constrainer>
</element>
</Element>
</element>
</element>
</Element>
<element layout=BorderLayout()>
<element layoutpos=top height=rcint("msgr",1803) background=rcbkd("msgr",1763)/>
</element>
</Element>
<Element id=atom(framelessborder) enabled=false active=0/>
</Element>
</Element>
<Element ID=atom(squareborderbottom) Background=rcbkd("msgr",1823) enabled=false active=0/>
<Element ID=atom(framelessborderbottom) enabled=false active=0/>
</Element>
</element>
<Element ResID=MainWindowBar Sheet=0 ID=atom(WindowBar) Layoutpos=client Layout=FillLayout()>
<Element Layout=BorderLayout()>
<Element id=atom(WindowBarBG) Layout=BorderLayout() Height=rcint("msgr",1833)>
<element layoutpos=bottom height=1 background=argb(128,255,255,255)/>
<Element layoutpos=right layout=FillLayout()>
<Element id=atom(minmaxclosebase) Layout=FlowLayout(0,0,0,0) Padding=rcrect(21008)>
<button id=atom(FLWMinBtn) class="FrameBtn" layoutpos=auto cmdid=21004 AccName=rcstr(21076) AccDesc=rcstr(21076) Content=rcimg(21019) active=1 padding=rcrect(21007)/>
<button id=atom(FLWMaxBtn) class="FrameBtn" layoutpos=auto cmdid=21005 AccName=rcstr(21077) AccDesc=rcstr(21077) Content=rcimg(21020) active=1 padding=rcrect(21007)/>
<button id=atom(FLWCloseBtn) class="FrameBtn" layoutpos=auto cmdid=21002 AccName=rcstr(21078) AccDesc=rcstr(21078) Content=rcimg(21018) active=1 padding=rcrect(21007)/>
</Element>
</Element>
<Element layoutpos=left layout=FlowLayout(2,2,0,0) padding=rcrect(21002)>
<Element id=atom(FramelessWindowSysMenu) layout=FillLayout()>
<Element id=atom(BrandedWindowIcon) class="WindowIcon" content=rcimg("msgr",600) ContentAlign=middleleft/>
</Element>
</Element>
<element layout=FillLayout() layoutpos=client>
<Element id=atom(WindowText) padding=rcrect(21006) layoutpos=client Class="MainWnd"/>
</element>
</Element>
</Element>
<Element ID=atom(squarebordertop) Background=rcbkd("msgr",1822) enabled=false active=0/>
<Element ID=atom(framelessbordertop) enabled=false active=0/>
</Element>

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What does the SkinTrace say?

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Originally posted by djdannyp
What does the SkinTrace say?

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Originally posted by stuartbennett

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Originally posted by djdannyp
What does the SkinTrace say?

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exactly the same as the one i posted earlier.

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heres the latest copy of the skin trace.

code:

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09/03/19 21:13:34| **** The trace has started ****
09/03/19 21:13:34| Skin: 365 Skin 2.70
09/03/19 21:13:34| Messenger version: 14.0.206.8064 (en-us)
09/03/19 21:13:34| Messenger Plus! version: 4.80.356
09/03/19 21:13:34| SkinLoader: couldn't encode data for window 923
09/03/19 21:13:34| Attribute pair is invalid. Line (def): 131. Column: 12

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Use this code:

xml code:

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<*PlusSkin Conditions(MailBtn1 = true) *>
<Button Id=atom(mailbtn) CmdId=40198 AccRole=57 Accdesc=rcstr("msgr",4227) ShortcutString=rcstr("msgr",4226) Class="TransparentButton" AccName=rcstr("msgr",4228) AccDefAction=rcstr("msgr",20500) Layout=FlowLayout(0,2,0,2) Active=7 Padding=Rect(0,0,0,0)>
<Element Layout=FillLayout()>
<element class="ToolbarIcon" content=rcimg("msgr",1480) Id=atom(idMailIcon)/>
<Element Layout=FillLayout() Padding=Rect(12,8,0,0)>
<Element Id=atom(mailcount) Class="ToolbarButtonItemCount" FontSize=rcint("msgr",20957)pt ContentAlign=middlecenter/>
</Element>
</Element>
</Button>
</*PlusSkin*>

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I thought it was </*PlusSkin*>?

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Originally posted by Nagamasa
I thought it was </*PlusSkin*>?

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thats it the whole time it was the closing plusskin tag where i didn't realize the / went before the *, now the code i was given works perfectly. it did say that line 131 which was the opening plusskin tage was the error and that it was a pairing error but because i believed the closing tag syntax was right it didn't make sense.

thanks guys, now if i copy paste the working show hide button code and only change the cmdid can i make code to operate other buttons or what as this is the only button in this window apparently.

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Originally posted by stuartbennett
thats it the whole time it was the closing plusskin tag where i didn't realize the / went before the *, now the code i was given works perfectly. it did say that line 131 which was the opening plusskin tage was the error and that it was a pairing error but because i believed the closing tag syntax was right it didn't make sense.

thanks guys, now if i copy paste the working show hide button code and only change the cmdid can i make code to operate other buttons or what as this is the only button in this window apparently.

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sorry danny but there are no buttons in the 1001 files, how do you build the other buttons from scratch and what are there cmdid's

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Originally posted by stuartbennett
sorry danny but there are no buttons in the 1001 files, how do you build the other buttons from scratch and what are there cmdid's

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quote:

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Originally posted by djdannyp

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Originally posted by stuartbennett
sorry danny but there are no buttons in the 1001 files, how do you build the other buttons from scratch and what are there cmdid's

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stuart, all of the buttons are in the 1001 definition file, you can't build them from scratch, they're already there

just search for 'button' and you'll find all of them

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xml code:

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<*PlusSkin FileKind(def) MsgVer(5) PlusVer(1) */>
<Element ResID=Scrollbar/>
<PopupMenu2 ResID=UXEditMenu Sheet=0>
<MenuItem2 Icon=rcimg(20250) Text=rcstr(20250) CmdId=11/>
<MenuItem2 Icon=rcimg(20251) Text=rcstr(20251) CmdId=12/>
<MenuItem2 Icon=rcimg(20252) Text=rcstr(20252) CmdId=13/>
<MenuItem2/>
<MenuItem2 Text=rcstr(20253) CmdId=17/>
</PopupMenu2>
<Element ResID=BuddyList sheet=0 Class="AddressBookBG" id=atom(abLayout) Layout=BorderLayout()>
<*PlusSkin Conditions(WordWheel = "Top") *><Element LayoutPos=Top Layout=BorderLayout()></*PlusSkin*>
<*PlusSkin Conditions(WordWheel = "Bottom") *><Element LayoutPos=Bottom Layout=BorderLayout()></*PlusSkin*>
<*PlusSkin Conditions(WordWheel = "None") *><Element LayoutPos=None Layout=BorderLayout()></*PlusSkin*>
<MsgrWordWheelElement id=atom(WordWheelElement) LayoutPos=client Padding=Rect(8,0,0,0)/>
<Toolbar id=atom(SimpleToolbar) LayoutPos=right CmdGroup=guid("{102a0bf5-44ec-4a0a-b5d7-54228fa20952}") Padding=Rect(0,7,5,7) Layout=BorderLayout() Accessible=true AccRole=22>
<Element LayoutPos=client Layout=FlowLayout(0,2,0,3)>
<MenuButton CmdID=50138 AccName=rcstr("msgr",49110) AddBehavior=DUI::MenuFromChildren("LeftClick","Bottom","AddContactDropdown") Active=7 AccDesc=rcstr("msgr",49110) Layout=BorderLayout()>
<ButtonIcon Content=rcimg("msgr",1131) Padding=Rect(3,3,0,3) Layoutpos=left/>
<element layoutpos=right Class="DropdownButtonCaret" Padding=Rect(0,4,0,4)/>
<Element Layoutpos=client Layout=FillLayout() ContentAlign=middlecenter>
<Menu ID=atom(AddContactDropdown)>
<MenuItem2 CmdID=50005 Text=rcstr("msgr",49111)/>
<MenuItem2 CmdID=50136 Text=rcstr("msgr",49112)/>
<MenuItem2 CmdID=50014 Text=rcstr("msgr",49313)/>
<MenuItem2/>
<MenuItem2 CmdID=317 Text=rcstr("msgr",49314)/>
<MenuItem2 CmdID=318 Text=rcstr("msgr",49315)/>
</Menu>
</Element>
</MenuButton>
<button class="HIGToolbarButton" padding=rcrect(20136) layout=BorderLayout() id=atom(viewoptsdlg) cmdid=40370 AccRole=43 AccDefAction=rcstr(20500) Tooltip=true active=7 accname=rcstr("msgr",49209) accdesc=rcstr("msgr",49210)>
<ButtonIcon class="HIGToolbarIcon" content=rcimg("msgr",1490) ContentAlign=middlecenter padding=rcrect(20140)/>
<element layoutpos=right ContentAlign=middlecenter layout=FillLayout()>
<ButtonText Id=atom(ButtonTextId) class="HIGToolbarText" content="" FontSize=rcint(20958)pt ContentAlign=middlecenter padding=rcrect(20141) Shortcut=1/>
</element>
</button>
<Button class="TransparentDropdownButton" layout=BorderLayout() layoutpos=client margin=Rect(0,0,0,0) AccName=rcstr("msgr",21075) CmdID=40206 ID=atom(FLWMenuBtn) AccRole=57 AccDesc=rcstr("msgr",21075) Active=7>
<element layoutpos=client layout=FlowLayout(0,3,1,2) ContentAlign=middlecenter padding=Rect(0,0,0,0)>
<element class="ToolbarIcon" content=rcimg("msgr",1489) Padding=Rect(3,0,0,0)/>
</element>
<element layoutpos=right Class="TransparentDropdownButtonCaret" padding=Rect(0,4,0,4)/>
</Button>
</Element>
</Toolbar>
</Element>
<Element LayoutPos=client Layout=BorderLayout()>
<Element Layout=FillLayout() LayoutPos=top>
<Element Class="InfoBar" AddBehavior=Msgr::InfoBar() Layout=BorderLayout() Margin=Rect(5,5,5,5) LayoutPos=bind(property:"InfoBar::LayoutPos") Background=bind(property:"InfoBar::Background")>
<Element id=atom(InfoBarIcon) LayoutPos=left Padding=Rect(5,3,3,0) ContentAlign=topcenter ContentIndex=bind(property:"InfoBar::Icon") Content=rcimg("msgr",729)/>
<HtmlView id=atom(InfoBarText) Active=3 LayoutPos=client Padding=Rect(0,3,0,5) Content=bind(property:"InfoBar::Message") YScrollable=false/>
<Button id=atom(InfoBarClose) Active=3 AccName=rcstr("msgr",8016) LayoutPos=right Padding=Rect(2,3,0,5) ContentAlign=topright Content=rcimg("msgr",629)/>
</Element>
</Element>
<Element id=atom(idZeroContactBubble) LayoutPos=none Layout=BorderLayout() Padding=Rect(25,10,5,0)>
<Element LayoutPos=top Layout=FlowLayout(0,0,0,2) Padding=Rect(0,0,0,5)>
<Element Content=rcimg("msgr",1131) Padding=Rect(0,0,5,0)/>
<Element Class="ZeroContactsHeader"/>
</Element>
<HtmlView Class="ZeroContactsText" Active=3 Tag=bind(property:"Config::ContactImport")/>
</Element>
<Element id=atom(idZeroResultsGroup) LayoutPos=none Layout=FlowLayout(0,0,0,2) Padding=Rect(0,2,0,0)>
<Element id=atom(idWWZeroResults) Content=rcstr("msgr",45800) AccName=rcstr("msgr",46400) AccDesc=rcstr("msgr",46401) Padding=Rect(10,0,0,0)/>
<Button id=atom(idZeroResultsPhoneLink) CmdID=50129 CmdGroup=guid("{102a0bf5-44ec-4a0a-b5d7-54228fa20952}") Content=rcstr("msgr",49807) AccName=rcstr("msgr",49807) AccDesc=rcstr("msgr",49807)/>
</Element>
<Element id=atom(idZeroContactAfterFilter) LayoutPos=none Content=rcstr("msgr",46402) AccName=rcstr("msgr",46404) AccDesc=rcstr("msgr",46403)/>
<Element LayoutPos=client Layout=FillLayout()>
<Element layout=FlowLayout(2,1,1,1)>
<Animator id=atom(watermark) active=0/>
</Element>
<BuddyList id=atom(abView) Layout=FillLayout() CmdGroup=guid("{16E32D35-5350-4805-B7F0-5E782510AF6F}")/>
</Element>
</Element>
</Element>
<Element ResID=CircleMembershipView sheet=0 Layout=BorderLayout()>
<BuddyListCommon id=atom(abView) Layout=FillLayout() CmdGroup=guid("{16E32D35-5350-4805-B7F0-5E782510AF6F}")/>
</Element>

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quote:

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Originally posted by stuartbennett
sorry danny but there are no buttons in the 1001 files, how do you build the other buttons from scratch and what are there cmdid's

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the buttons aren't there ive checked, i know how to find buttons but the buttons im looking for arent anywhere in any of the uifiles so they have to be built from scratch so how do i do that?

quote:

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Originally posted by stuartbennett

quote:

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Originally posted by djdannyp

quote:

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Originally posted by stuartbennett
sorry danny but there are no buttons in the 1001 files, how do you build the other buttons from scratch and what are there cmdid's

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stuart, all of the buttons are in the 1001 definition file, you can't build them from scratch, they're already there

just search for 'button' and you'll find all of them

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danny below is the 1001 definition file

xml code:

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<*PlusSkin FileKind(def) MsgVer(5) PlusVer(1) */>
<Element ResID=Scrollbar/>
<PopupMenu2 ResID=UXEditMenu Sheet=0>
<MenuItem2 Icon=rcimg(20250) Text=rcstr(20250) CmdId=11/>
<MenuItem2 Icon=rcimg(20251) Text=rcstr(20251) CmdId=12/>
<MenuItem2 Icon=rcimg(20252) Text=rcstr(20252) CmdId=13/>
<MenuItem2/>
<MenuItem2 Text=rcstr(20253) CmdId=17/>
</PopupMenu2>
<Element ResID=BuddyList sheet=0 Class="AddressBookBG" id=atom(abLayout) Layout=BorderLayout()>
<*PlusSkin Conditions(WordWheel = "Top") *><Element LayoutPos=Top Layout=BorderLayout()></*PlusSkin*>
<*PlusSkin Conditions(WordWheel = "Bottom") *><Element LayoutPos=Bottom Layout=BorderLayout()></*PlusSkin*>
<*PlusSkin Conditions(WordWheel = "None") *><Element LayoutPos=None Layout=BorderLayout()></*PlusSkin*>
<MsgrWordWheelElement id=atom(WordWheelElement) LayoutPos=client Padding=Rect(8,0,0,0)/>
<Toolbar id=atom(SimpleToolbar) LayoutPos=right CmdGroup=guid("{102a0bf5-44ec-4a0a-b5d7-54228fa20952}") Padding=Rect(0,7,5,7) Layout=BorderLayout() Accessible=true AccRole=22>
<Element LayoutPos=client Layout=FlowLayout(0,2,0,3)>
>>><MenuButton CmdID=50138 AccName=rcstr("msgr",49110) AddBehavior=DUI::MenuFromChildren("LeftClick","Bottom","AddContactDropdown") Active=7 AccDesc=rcstr("msgr",49110) Layout=BorderLayout()><<<
<ButtonIcon Content=rcimg("msgr",1131) Padding=Rect(3,3,0,3) Layoutpos=left/>
<element layoutpos=right Class="DropdownButtonCaret" Padding=Rect(0,4,0,4)/>
<Element Layoutpos=client Layout=FillLayout() ContentAlign=middlecenter>
<Menu ID=atom(AddContactDropdown)>
<MenuItem2 CmdID=50005 Text=rcstr("msgr",49111)/>
<MenuItem2 CmdID=50136 Text=rcstr("msgr",49112)/>
<MenuItem2 CmdID=50014 Text=rcstr("msgr",49313)/>
<MenuItem2/>
<MenuItem2 CmdID=317 Text=rcstr("msgr",49314)/>
<MenuItem2 CmdID=318 Text=rcstr("msgr",49315)/>
</Menu>
</Element>
>>></MenuButton><<<
>>><button class="HIGToolbarButton" padding=rcrect(20136) layout=BorderLayout() id=atom(viewoptsdlg) cmdid=40370 AccRole=43 AccDefAction=rcstr(20500) Tooltip=true active=7 accname=rcstr("msgr",49209) accdesc=rcstr("msgr",49210)><<<
<ButtonIcon class="HIGToolbarIcon" content=rcimg("msgr",1490) ContentAlign=middlecenter padding=rcrect(20140)/>
<element layoutpos=right ContentAlign=middlecenter layout=FillLayout()>
<ButtonText Id=atom(ButtonTextId) class="HIGToolbarText" content="" FontSize=rcint(20958)pt ContentAlign=middlecenter padding=rcrect(20141) Shortcut=1/>
</element>
>>></button><<<
>>><Button class="TransparentDropdownButton" layout=BorderLayout() layoutpos=client margin=Rect(0,0,0,0) AccName=rcstr("msgr",21075) CmdID=40206 ID=atom(FLWMenuBtn) AccRole=57 AccDesc=rcstr("msgr",21075) Active=7><<<
<element layoutpos=client layout=FlowLayout(0,3,1,2) ContentAlign=middlecenter padding=Rect(0,0,0,0)>
<element class="ToolbarIcon" content=rcimg("msgr",1489) Padding=Rect(3,0,0,0)/>
</element>
<element layoutpos=right Class="TransparentDropdownButtonCaret" padding=Rect(0,4,0,4)/>
>>></Button><<<
</Element>
</Toolbar>
</Element>
<Element LayoutPos=client Layout=BorderLayout()>
<Element Layout=FillLayout() LayoutPos=top>
<Element Class="InfoBar" AddBehavior=Msgr::InfoBar() Layout=BorderLayout() Margin=Rect(5,5,5,5) LayoutPos=bind(property:"InfoBar::LayoutPos") Background=bind(property:"InfoBar::Background")>
<Element id=atom(InfoBarIcon) LayoutPos=left Padding=Rect(5,3,3,0) ContentAlign=topcenter ContentIndex=bind(property:"InfoBar::Icon") Content=rcimg("msgr",729)/>
<HtmlView id=atom(InfoBarText) Active=3 LayoutPos=client Padding=Rect(0,3,0,5) Content=bind(property:"InfoBar::Message") YScrollable=false/>
<Button id=atom(InfoBarClose) Active=3 AccName=rcstr("msgr",8016) LayoutPos=right Padding=Rect(2,3,0,5) ContentAlign=topright Content=rcimg("msgr",629)/>
</Element>
</Element>
<Element id=atom(idZeroContactBubble) LayoutPos=none Layout=BorderLayout() Padding=Rect(25,10,5,0)>
<Element LayoutPos=top Layout=FlowLayout(0,0,0,2) Padding=Rect(0,0,0,5)>
<Element Content=rcimg("msgr",1131) Padding=Rect(0,0,5,0)/>
<Element Class="ZeroContactsHeader"/>
</Element>
<HtmlView Class="ZeroContactsText" Active=3 Tag=bind(property:"Config::ContactImport")/>
</Element>
<Element id=atom(idZeroResultsGroup) LayoutPos=none Layout=FlowLayout(0,0,0,2) Padding=Rect(0,2,0,0)>
<Element id=atom(idWWZeroResults) Content=rcstr("msgr",45800) AccName=rcstr("msgr",46400) AccDesc=rcstr("msgr",46401) Padding=Rect(10,0,0,0)/>
<Button id=atom(idZeroResultsPhoneLink) CmdID=50129 CmdGroup=guid("{102a0bf5-44ec-4a0a-b5d7-54228fa20952}") Content=rcstr("msgr",49807) AccName=rcstr("msgr",49807) AccDesc=rcstr("msgr",49807)/>
</Element>
<Element id=atom(idZeroContactAfterFilter) LayoutPos=none Content=rcstr("msgr",46402) AccName=rcstr("msgr",46404) AccDesc=rcstr("msgr",46403)/>
<Element LayoutPos=client Layout=FillLayout()>
<Element layout=FlowLayout(2,1,1,1)>
<Animator id=atom(watermark) active=0/>
</Element>
<BuddyList id=atom(abView) Layout=FillLayout() CmdGroup=guid("{16E32D35-5350-4805-B7F0-5E782510AF6F}")/>
</Element>
</Element>
</Element>
<Element ResID=CircleMembershipView sheet=0 Layout=BorderLayout()>
<BuddyListCommon id=atom(abView) Layout=FillLayout() CmdGroup=guid("{16E32D35-5350-4805-B7F0-5E782510AF6F}")/>
</Element>

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now please point out the OIM, Sharing Folders, Spaces, Today, Call, SMS, Plus preferences, Plus Scripts, Colourize buttons as i have searched the file and cannot see them.

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i saw those buttons but it isn't clear which one is which so how can i apply the right plusskin tag to the right button if i cannot identify them? i have used WLM 2009 i just assumed those buttons had been disabled by default but could be restored if required.

quote:

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Originally posted by stuartbennett
i saw those buttons but it isn't clear which one is which so how can i apply the right plusskin tag to the right button if i cannot identify them? i have used WLM 2009 i just assumed those buttons had been disabled by default but could be restored if required.

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right i have added those options and can now get add contact, layout options and show menu buttons to show or hide based on the options selected in skin options panel, however if either the add contact button or layout options buttons get hidden then they hide the scripts button but ive double checked the code for both those buttons and neither one of them calls the scripts button so im really confused.