Microsoft blocks youtube links? - Printable Version -Shoutbox (https://shoutbox.menthix.net) +-- Forum: MsgHelp Archive (/forumdisplay.php?fid=58) +--- Forum: Skype & Technology (/forumdisplay.php?fid=9) +---- Forum: Skype & Live Messenger (/forumdisplay.php?fid=10) +----- Thread: Microsoft blocks youtube links? (/showthread.php?tid=83642) Microsoft blocks youtube links? by Sypher on 05-10-2008 at 11:54 AM
Looks like Microsoft doesn't want to have users sending Youtube links. RE: Microsoft blocks youtube links? by absorbation on 05-10-2008 at 01:11 PM
Now it's too far RE: Microsoft blocks youtube links? by duck! on 05-10-2008 at 01:23 PM
pfft, dodgy Messenger team RE: Microsoft blocks youtube links? by High Speed Chaser on 05-10-2008 at 01:52 PM
My previous post got moved to the T&T so I want to give my honest opinion now. RE: Microsoft blocks youtube links? by Mike on 05-10-2008 at 02:03 PM FYI, hi5 links also won't work (shame that myspace links still work ) RE: Microsoft blocks youtube links? by Voldemort on 05-10-2008 at 02:07 PM Erm, it worked perfectly fine yesterday here, ask Chris4 RE: Microsoft blocks youtube links? by -dt- on 05-10-2008 at 02:11 PM Current msn block list.. code:doesn't seem to be blocking youtube... though they could be server side blocking it RE: Microsoft blocks youtube links? by Quantum on 05-10-2008 at 02:49 PM I was using it yesterday also, this really is no way to "get on at" google. RE: Microsoft blocks youtube links? by Felu on 05-10-2008 at 03:44 PM
quote:info domains were banned from WLM long ago... RE: Microsoft blocks youtube links? by duck! on 05-10-2008 at 03:59 PM
quote:Works fine here RE: Microsoft blocks youtube links? by Aardvark on 05-10-2008 at 04:12 PM
I can still use info domains If I coudn't, asking people to tell me their thoughts on my website would be a little bit useless And I tried a number of items in that blocked items list and they work fine for me... RE: Microsoft blocks youtube links? by Voldemort on 05-10-2008 at 04:19 PM it still works here, so i'd guess its blocked on some servers only? RE: Microsoft blocks youtube links? by user35870 on 05-10-2008 at 04:30 PM
I contacted Windows Live support about the blocked site, they replied, here's a bit of the response: quote: Hopefully its resolved soon then. RE: Microsoft blocks youtube links? by Nathan on 05-10-2008 at 07:49 PM ITS FIXED! RE: Microsoft blocks youtube links? by user35870 on 05-10-2008 at 07:50 PM Yeah, the block seems to have been lifted. RE: Microsoft blocks youtube links? by Chris4 on 05-11-2008 at 12:16 AM
Someone made a script for MP!L here but isn't needed now. RE: Microsoft blocks youtube links? by Jarrod on 05-11-2008 at 02:12 AM i think then next step is not blocking but advertising or converting the link to a microsoft search RE: Microsoft blocks youtube links? by Butcher_ss on 05-11-2008 at 05:43 AM Links to the youtube site are working for me and also links to videos are working (i have the youtube launher script). I tried this by signing in through 2 different accounts and sent it from one account to the other. Neither were blocked. RE: Microsoft blocks youtube links? by High Speed Chaser on 05-11-2008 at 05:50 AM
If you did that just now, it's because Microsoft rectified the situation. source mess.be I'm not sure if I'm allowed to repost that picture so, If I'm not supposed to PM me and I will remove it. RE: Microsoft blocks youtube links? by absorbation on 05-11-2008 at 11:17 AM This just highlights the poor system used within Messenger. The filter system is a result of sloppy, rushed and poor programming. TB found that the system actually can cause Messenger to crash and slow down significantly. RE: Microsoft blocks youtube links? by CookieRevised on 05-11-2008 at 05:29 PM
http://messengersays.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!5B4...30829E!35340.entry RE: Microsoft blocks youtube links? by blessedguy on 05-11-2008 at 08:50 PM
quote:Yeah... I know... (I think they haven't read any of our feedbacks these days) [remembergint that they also blocked deviantart.com ] RE: Microsoft blocks youtube links? by CookieRevised on 05-11-2008 at 09:43 PM
oh for crying out loud...... RE: Microsoft blocks youtube links? by blessedguy on 05-11-2008 at 10:07 PM
Hey! microsoft also does (very) good things! Look at Windows XP; it is the best OS I've ever used (forgetting about viruses and that stuff), Messenger is nice (some lil problems, but better than all the others), WLM is awsome (the only one I like to use). RE: Microsoft blocks youtube links? by Mike on 05-12-2008 at 12:27 PM
quote:Both Windows Vista and Windows XP do that unless you tell them not to! It's not only Vista. Speaking from experience RE: Microsoft blocks youtube links? by Nefzen on 05-12-2008 at 04:09 PM huh? I haven't felt any problems with youtube links RE: Microsoft blocks youtube links? by blessedguy on 05-12-2008 at 05:08 PM
quote:maybe because they fixed it quickly RE: Microsoft blocks youtube links? by absorbation on 05-12-2008 at 05:15 PM Why does a third party manage the blocks? It means they have made an escape goat. RE: Microsoft blocks youtube links? by CookieRevised on 05-12-2008 at 06:09 PM
quote:Why does Patchou let the managing of the script database up to Menthix? Why do companies partner up with others? Because those 3rd parties have the expertise, time, experience, sponsor contracts, etc... lots of good reasons... So, there is probably a good reason too why it is managed by a 3rd party (aka MS-partner), what that reason is I dunno... But I don't see what "an escape goat" has todo with this (appart for yet another "bash-MS for no reason" reason). RE: Microsoft blocks youtube links? by Lou on 05-12-2008 at 06:46 PM
quote:This makes sense, though I find it rather odd that the (for now anonymous) third-party company blocks out these kinds of domains without firstly investigating. Surely someone there knows that websites like googlepages.com, ebuddy.com, mediafire.com, and youtube.com are perfectly safe to use. It looks rather odd that the things getting blocked are competitors (in certain ways) of Microsoft. On another note, if they block out domains that are sent out too much, why is google not blocked? If they can avoid google's block, then they can avoid this kind of block as well. On an offtopic note, perhaps the youtube links were being sent out too much because people were getting Rick Roll'd? RE: Microsoft blocks youtube links? by absorbation on 05-12-2008 at 07:01 PM
the andyman raised the point what control this third party company has over a conversations. Do they have a copy, do they have access to them? Can someone read what I say over Messenger? RE: Microsoft blocks youtube links? by blessedguy on 05-12-2008 at 07:07 PM
quote:I hope no!!! (But I'm almost sure they can) RE: Microsoft blocks youtube links? by CookieRevised on 05-12-2008 at 07:21 PM
quote:Dunno if it was "without investigation". But good point though. On the other hand, pages like googlepages.com could contain potential harmfull stuff. Then again, so can the entire internet.... As they say so themselfs, they block pages (or entire sites) based upon a lot of criteria. So, it might have been possible that there were viri spreading around which were located on some googlepages.com sites. And since legit links to googlepages weren't send/used that often in Messenger compared to the amount of malicious links being used, it might be logic in some way to block the entire range. Too bad for the few hundreds who used legit links to googlepages.com, compared to the thousands/millions who would otherwise would recieve viri... It's common sense... (if that is/was the case)... If it is good practice to block domains or not, dunno. For both methods (blocking individual pages vs. blocking entire domains) something can be said. Is blocking needed at all? Personally I think it is, especially by default (but with an 'advanced' option to turn it off maybe). But this also means that they must walk on a very thin line as to what to block and what not. But, I would be surprised if the only reason would be "competitors". That simply doesn't make much sense in a bussiness POV. Also because MS is getting very carefull when it comes down to competition and anti-trust, etc... especially in Europe (which has still the biggest market share for Messenger). quote:This shows to me that this isn't about "competition", but all about security. Like I said above, googlepages.com are websites from individuals which could contain malicious programs for people to download. Google.com is just a search engine and thus not as much a security threat... As for why YouTube was blocked? Dunno, I don't see immediatly what that got todo with security either. But then again, so did Microsoft, and thus they fixed it.... Let us just hope that other (stupid) blocks will get lifted too. Maybe with the aid of enough people like you and me who report the blocks via the official feedback forms (which is the proper way to complain about them).... As that is what also happened with the YouTube issue (which quite frankly didn't even lasted 1 day, so what's the big problem actually? -all of a sudden MS is the big devil on lots of blogs because of this- ): instead of people kind of ignoring it (like with the other blocks) and only complaining about it once in a while on their own forums were MS doens't see the -not that many- complaints, they started to complain to the proper official channels, MS saw it, and fixed it.... and even blogged about it themselfs... RE: Microsoft blocks youtube links? by albert on 05-12-2008 at 11:11 PM At the end of the day, you get what you paid for. RE: Microsoft blocks youtube links? by CookieRevised on 05-12-2008 at 11:29 PM
quote:No... That MS-partner maintains the block list. Maintaining a list does not mean they can read conversations. Even having access to the MS-servers (which nobody said they had; you can perfectly maintain a list without the need to have access to the actual servers), does not mean they can access what is being send. That would actually not make any sense either; why would they need access to the actual data being send? RE: Microsoft blocks youtube links? by RebelSean on 05-16-2008 at 06:09 PM
quote: Actually the company who is managing the block list does indeed have access only to the links being sent via messages. They however have no access to anything else, such as who sent it, what time it was sent, etc etc etc. RE: Microsoft blocks youtube links? by dbgarza on 07-03-2008 at 12:22 AM
Actually that blocking isn't really perfect, because a simple workaround for the blocked links to go through is simply separate the http: from the rest of the link with a space and the link will go through, you just simply tell your contact to copy and paste the link in the browser and remove the space. |