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Some thing missing in WLM 2009!? by Paradise on 12-21-2008 at 09:50 AM

Good moring every one!

I use to use Windows Live Messenger Beta 9! that one does msgplus work with! It was one of the Options "I can put my own sounds" (that allowed the poeple listen to it when I Sign In)

Now I use The new Version (Build 14.0.8050.1202) But I could not see that option any more!!

Are they call it off Or they put it some where I can do it?

the signature sounds


RE: Some thing miss in WLM 2009!? by Felu on 12-21-2008 at 09:57 AM

Yes, the signature sounds feature was removed in the RC build.


RE: Some thing missing in WLM 2009!? by Robin2130 on 12-21-2008 at 10:14 AM

The signature option was an great feature. I miss it :(


RE: RE: Some thing missing in WLM 2009!? by IA015 on 12-21-2008 at 10:47 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Robin2130
The signature option was an great feature. I miss it :(
Thats why I still using the beta version...
RE: RE: RE: Some thing missing in WLM 2009!? by Robin2130 on 12-21-2008 at 12:12 PM

quote:
Originally posted by IA015
quote:
Originally posted by Robin2130
The signature option was an great feature. I miss it :(
Thats why I still using the beta version...
I understand, but the Beta sucks because the well known custom emoticon bug :P
RE: RE: RE: RE: Some thing missing in WLM 2009!? by IA015 on 12-21-2008 at 12:25 PM

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Originally posted by Robin2130
quote:
Originally posted by IA015
quote:
Originally posted by Robin2130
The signature option was an great feature. I miss it :(
Thats why I still using the beta version...
I understand, but the Beta sucks because the well known custom emoticon bug :P
Doesn't disturbs me so much xD
RE: Some thing missing in WLM 2009!? by Mike on 12-21-2008 at 12:29 PM

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Originally posted by IA015
quote:
Originally posted by Robin2130
The signature option was an great feature. I miss it :(
Thats why I still using the beta version...
Only people who use the beta version will hear your sig sound (even if you still use the beta).

Also, you will be forced to update once the final version is released (maybe sooner?) :P

I was also sad to see that signature sounds are gone, but what can we do about it? :(
RE: RE: Some thing missing in WLM 2009!? by IA015 on 12-21-2008 at 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by Mike
quote:
Originally posted by IA015
quote:
Originally posted by Robin2130
The signature option was an great feature. I miss it :(
Thats why I still using the beta version...
Only people who use the beta version will hear your sig sound (even if you still use the beta).

Also, you will be forced to update once the final version is released (maybe sooner?) :P

I was also sad to see that signature sounds are gone, but what can we do about it? :(
I had the final version but was not happy with it so I go for this version until msn plus is released to the latest;)
RE: RE: Some thing missing in WLM 2009!? by Paradise on 12-21-2008 at 12:37 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mike
Only people who use the beta version will hear your sig sound (even if you still use the beta).

Also, you will be forced to update once the final version is released (maybe sooner?) :P

I was also sad to see that signature sounds are gone, but what can we do about it? :(

Oh god,! So doesn't work If only who use the beta ones will hear it. haha~

But Actually U do it for yourself hear it like the plus alos [ People who doesn't has plus won't see that color for the nickname, etc. ]

yeah U right, What can we do about it!? I hope they returned it.!!
RE: Some thing missing in WLM 2009!? by silent-viper on 12-21-2008 at 11:35 PM

Yea I also dont understand why that feature was removed?

Maby they found an error with it or a possible vunurability in the program? Who knows.

Im sure it will be back eventually ;)


RE: RE: Some thing missing in WLM 2009!? by ryxdp on 12-22-2008 at 12:20 AM

quote:
Originally posted by silent-viper
Yea I also dont understand why that feature was removed?

Maby they found an error with it or a possible vunurability in the program? Who knows.

Im sure it will be back eventually ;)

Trust me, it won't be back.

It's more than likely Microsoft withdrew the feature because they were afraid people would set "bad" sounds. I don't use 9 yet, but I think you can still set your own sounds for your contacts; this I think is much better than letting others choose for you ;)
RE: Some thing missing in WLM 2009!? by James Potter on 12-22-2008 at 12:49 AM

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Originally posted by ryxdp
Trust me, it won't be back.

It's more than likely Microsoft withdrew the feature because they were afraid people would set "bad" sounds. I don't use 9 yet, but I think yuo can still set your own sounds for your contacts; this I think is much better than letting others choose for you ;)
Alright, this account was intended to PM WDZ only, but this has been nagging me since the RC version was released. People kept on complaining about the signature sounds and the partially working version of Messenger Plus! Live.

Signature sounds have not been fully remoeved, one part of them was: setting your PERSONAL Signature Sound. Alternatively, now you can only set Signature Sounds for your contacts as ryxdp stated.  Moreover, showing contacts' statuses is now optional in the contact list.

As stated a thousand times already regarding Messenger Plus! Live, Windows Live Messenger 14.0 RC has a new skinning mechanism, thus Messenger Plus! Live finds it a bit hard integrating into WLM at this stage. However, the "faries" have been working on a quick fix for this, so we may expect some news in the following weeks. ;]
RE: Some thing missing in WLM 2009!? by Mike on 12-22-2008 at 06:07 AM

quote:
Originally posted by ryxdp
they were afraid people would set "bad" sounds.
Don't like a contact's sig sound?
Mute it!
They could just add a mute button on the sign in toast to mute the contact's sig sound on the spot...

quote:
Originally posted by Acc2pmWDZ
Signature sounds have not been fully remoeved, one part of them was: setting your PERSONAL Signature Sound.
... a thing that MP!(L) could do for ages.
RE: RE: Some thing missing in WLM 2009!? by ryxdp on 12-22-2008 at 06:40 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Mike
Don't like a contact's sig sound?
Mute it!
They could just add a mute button on the sign in toast to mute the contact's sig sound on the spot...

Proof that Microsoft doesn't really know its own software :P

EDIT: Post below me is spot on in what I was thinking :P
RE: Some thing missing in WLM 2009!? by Curtis on 12-22-2008 at 07:25 AM

I think they removed the feature because people like me put loud and obnoxious noises as signature sounds.


RE: RE: Some thing missing in WLM 2009!? by Robin2130 on 12-22-2008 at 11:35 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Curtis
I think they removed the feature because people like me put loud and obnoxious noises as signature sounds.

Voiceclips too. I know people they send me very irritating sounds with the Voiceclip feature and this feature is still alive :)
RE: Some thing missing in WLM 2009!? by Gonzo68 on 12-22-2008 at 11:53 AM

I completly approve Microsoft decision on removing the signature sound and replace it with you choosing your contact sign-in sound.

1- People choosing sound as signature could annoyed others
2- People not knowing about that signature sound trying to understand where sound was coming from

So now you can attach the sound you want to your different contact 


RE: RE: Some thing missing in WLM 2009!? by Scizz on 12-22-2008 at 12:10 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Gonzo68
1- People choosing sound as signature could annoyed others
Same thing can be done with voice clips, so users who can mute voice clips can also mute signature sounds, not a big deal and reason enough at all.

quote:
Originally posted by Gonzo68
2- People not knowing about that signature sound trying to understand where sound was coming from
MS does so many things with pop-ups alá
"Notice [feature]?
[explanation]
Do you want to enable [feature] for the future?
[yes/no]"

It could simply be detected if signature sounds were being played, and the user prompted on first play if they wanted to enable it.
So again this could have been solved way better.
RE: Some thing missing in WLM 2009!? by djdannyp on 12-22-2008 at 12:20 PM

They obviously got enough feedback to warrant removing the feature.

Maybe people didn't like the feature, or it was reported that it just wasn't something that would be used.

They're not stupid and they will make some of their decisions by taking into account what the Butterflies/testers say (otherwise why bother having them?)

I'm sure that every feature ever added/removed in a product was liked by someone and disliked by someone else

You can't please all of the people, all of the time.....but they've obviously decided to remove this because of feedback/views


RE: RE: Some thing missing in WLM 2009!? by NanoChromatic on 12-22-2008 at 12:26 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Curtis
I think they removed the feature because people like me put loud and obnoxious noises as signature sounds.

Nothing wrong with waking you contacts up with a bit of Screamo :)
RE: Some thing missing in WLM 2009!? by James Potter on 12-22-2008 at 05:07 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mike

Don't like a contact's sig sound?
Mute it!
They could just add a mute button on the sign in toast to mute the contact's sig sound on the spot...
Well, that would have been a possible solution, but, boy, does Microsoft even listen to its users at all?
quote:
Originally posted by Mike
quote:
Originally posted by Acc2pmWDZ
Signature sounds have not been fully remoeved, one part of them was: setting your PERSONAL Signature Sound.
... a thing that MP!(L) could do for ages.
I know about that feature since I started using MP! 3.x.

quote:
Originally posted by ryxdp
Proof that Microsoft doesn't really know its own software :P

EDIT: Post below me is spot on in what I was thinking :P
Well, Microsoft knows its software but does not know/like its users' demands for the software.  Thus, they tend to add whatever features THEY like and remove whatever features THEY dislike.

Moreover, I'm glad that my previous post has relected your thoughts. ;]
RE: RE: Some thing missing in WLM 2009!? by ryxdp on 12-22-2008 at 10:22 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Acc2pmWDZ
Well, Microsoft knows its software but does not know/like its users' demands for the software.  Thus, they tend to add whatever features THEY like and remove whatever features THEY dislike.

Yeah, I was sort of half joking about that :P

quote:
Moreover, I'm glad that my previous post has relected your thoughts. ;]

Actually I was referring to Curtis's post, but ok :D
RE: Some thing missing in WLM 2009!? by Mike on 12-22-2008 at 11:26 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Curtis
I think they removed the feature because people like me put loud and obnoxious noises as signature sounds.
That's why they should apply DRC when adding signature sounds.
quote:
Originally posted by djdannyp

They're not stupid and they will make some of their decisions by taking into account what the Butterflies/testers say (otherwise why bother having them?)
But the butterflies/testers represent only a very small number of WLM's userbase. Don't forget that most users don't really care about having a "clean" (insert correct word here) client. Heck, they even removed (increased?) the 5 custom emoticons limit in a message so that Average Joe can now have as CE the full alphabet in dancing letters!