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Installation by YourNeibour on 04-27-2009 at 01:28 PM
Here is my problem. I just got a copy of Windows Vista Home Premium and I'm trying to install it from scratch and I am unable to. I tried doing it thry XP but it keeps crashing on me. When I try and do it bootable way I just get to the first screen when it gives me the language options and it freezes. My specs are
Intel Pentium
2.66GHZ processor
2 GB of ram
ATI Sapphire x1650
Sound Card
80gb HardDrive.
Wireless card
Any suggestions?
RE: Installation by Jarrod on 04-27-2009 at 01:35 PM
install it in a virtual machine on the harddisk u want, then put the disk back into your computer, thats what i'd do
RE: Installation by YourNeibour on 04-27-2009 at 07:22 PM
is my system upto snuff for VISTA and 7?
RE: Installation by Jesus on 04-27-2009 at 07:36 PM
quote:except that won't work most of the time because of the driver incompatibilities, specifically with the IDE/SATA controller drivers.
Originally posted by Jarrod
install it in a virtual machine on the harddisk u want, then put the disk back into your computer, thats what i'd do
To make this work without problems, you'll have to make a sysprep file, which is quite a hassle for installing an OS.
YourNeibour: does the installer DVD work on other PCs or could it also be the DVD that is corrupt?
RE: Installation by Jarrod on 04-28-2009 at 03:57 AM
quote:I've never done it on vista, I still use xp, can't you just install the drivers from exes(if you have them that is)?
Originally posted by Jesus
quoteriginally posted by Jarrod
install it in a virtual machine on the harddisk u want, then put the disk back into your computer, thats what i'd do
except that won't work most of the time because of the driver incompatibilities, specifically with the IDE/SATA controller drivers.
To make this work without problems, you'll have to make a sysprep file, which is quite a hassle for installing an OS.
RE: Installation by ShawnZ on 04-28-2009 at 04:05 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Jarrod
install it in a virtual machine on the harddisk u want, then put the disk back into your computer, thats what i'd do
and completely ignore the fact that there's a problem which shouldn't be there in the first place?
quote:
Originally posted by Jesus
except that won't work most of the time because of the driver incompatibilities, specifically with the IDE/SATA controller drivers.
To make this work without problems, you'll have to make a sysprep file, which is quite a hassle for installing an OS.
i believe you mean "youll have to run sysprep in the vm," which really isn't that much of a hassle. but it doesn't matter, because you don't need to do that anymore with vista.
quote:
Originally posted by Jarrod
I've never done it on vista, I still use xp, can't you just install the drivers from exes(if you have them that is)?
not if you're talking about the chipset driver, because the system wouldn't boot without the correct one. but again, this has changed in vista.
quote:is some of your RAM bad? have you tried just waiting 5min? last i remember, the vista install cd had problems with freezing when detecting installations.
Originally posted by YourNeibour
When I try and do it bootable way I just get to the first screen when it gives me the language options and it freezes
RE: Installation by Jesus on 04-28-2009 at 12:40 PM
quote:that's what I meant, and most of the time you'll have to make (or at least customize) the sysprep file to do that. That's how it worked the last time I did this. Maybe it's possible to do this automatically by now.
Originally posted by ShawnZ
i believe you mean "youll have to run sysprep in the vm," which really isn't that much of a hassle.
Anyway, if you have a valid reason to do this it's not much of a hassle, but just to do a fresh install of an OS it's quite a hassle since that can be done in a much easier way.
RE: Installation by YourNeibour on 04-28-2009 at 04:38 PM
do you think my PC is upto snuff though?
RE: Installation by ShawnZ on 04-28-2009 at 10:03 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Jesus
and most of the time you'll have to make (or at least customize) the sysprep file to do that.
what "sysprep file", it's just a program that you run before you image the computer...
and actually, now that i think about it, i don't even think sysprep prevents driver problems when imaging.
RE: Installation by Jesus on 04-29-2009 at 12:57 AM
YourNeibour: Your system is good enough to run both Windows Vista and Windows 7.
ShawnZ: I suggest you take a read here (you could have googled it too).
The sysprep file is the configuration file for the conversion process and is (or was, not sure about Vista) almost always necessary to prevent driver issues.
RE: RE: Installation by Hank on 04-29-2009 at 09:13 AM
quote:as Shawnz asked above maybe a Ram stick is bad, i'd download a program such as memtest an run a memory test http://www.memtest86.com/
Originally posted by YourNeibour
do you think my PC is upto snuff though?
RE: Installation by Jarrod on 04-29-2009 at 01:12 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Jesus
quote:that's what I meant, and most of the time you'll have to make (or at least customize) the sysprep file to do that. That's how it worked the last time I did this. Maybe it's possible to do this automatically by now.
Originally posted by ShawnZ
i believe you mean "youll have to run sysprep in the vm," which really isn't that much of a hassle.
Anyway, if you have a valid reason to do this it's not much of a hassle, but just to do a fresh install of an OS it's quite a hassle since that can be done in a much easier way.
correct me if i'm wrong but doing a system prep like that is for migrating from a vmdk file, i have done it plenty of time using the physical disk without a vmdk file and it worked 100% of the time with xp and ubuntu
RE: Installation by Jesus on 04-29-2009 at 07:27 PM
quote:The drivers will be the same whether it's a .vmdk or a physical disk.
Originally posted by Jarrod
correct me if i'm wrong but doing a system prep like that is for migrating from a vmdk file, i have done it plenty of time using the physical disk without a vmdk file and it worked 100% of the time with xp and ubuntu
Your system is probably one of the cases where the system is still bootable while using the drivers of the VM, but on other systems this is not always possible. I've tried it on my previous laptop and it gave me a BSOD if I tried to boot my VMware Windows XP installation from outside the VM.