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display picture & scene download notifier? by likurtgerty on 02-21-2010 at 04:16 PM
Is there a script/plugin that will notify me when somebody downloads my dp or scene and tells me who it was and lists it in event history?
RE: display picture & scene download notifier? by whiz on 02-21-2010 at 04:31 PM
I'm afraid that's not possible - scripts can't access that kind of information.
RE: display picture & scene download notifier? by likurtgerty on 02-21-2010 at 04:40 PM
ok but do you know which port that stuff goes through?
RE: display picture & scene download notifier? by CookieRevised on 02-21-2010 at 04:47 PM
There is no way to detect that because... everybody who have you on their contact list (and havng DPs shown instead of the icons) will automatically see your DP. Including anybody who has you in their hotmail contacts list, anybody who views your profile, anybody who goes to your space, skydrive, etc, etc, etc. You even don't need to be online for that, because stuff like that is stored on the servers and cached locally on your contacts' computers. Almost the same goes for the scene.
The only thing you could 'detect' in theory is when your Messenger syncronizes the DP and scene with what is stored on the server. But that doesn't say anything about who sees it at what time.
RE: display picture & scene download notifier? by likurtgerty on 02-21-2010 at 04:51 PM
Ok thnx! I thought that stuff was through p2p
RE: display picture & scene download notifier? by CookieRevised on 02-21-2010 at 05:14 PM
quote:sometimes it is, but it isn't always. Hence you can't track it.
Originally posted by likurtgerty
Ok thnx! I thought that stuff was through p2p
RE: display picture & scene download notifier? by Chrissy on 02-21-2010 at 05:36 PM
Cant someone just make a script that will compare 2 display pictures and if they are the same just assume it's stolen.
Like every 1 minutes go through the contacts list ?
RE: RE: display picture & scene download notifier? by likurtgerty on 02-21-2010 at 05:58 PM
quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
quote:sometimes it is, but it isn't always. Hence you can't track it.
Originally posted by likurtgerty
Ok thnx! I thought that stuff was through p2p
but is there something that will tell me when it does go through p2p and it is possible to know who downloaded it?
This has nothing to do with somebody "stealing" the DP.
RE: RE: RE: display picture & scene download notifier? by billyy on 02-21-2010 at 06:32 PM
quote:
but is there something that will tell me when it does go through p2p and it is possible to know who downloaded it?
This has nothing to do with somebody "stealing" the DP.
I think only a script on the server the file is stored on might be able to access that kind of information. And if someone where to download the file i could only imagine information like his IP adress being saved... (if i understand what yer sayin'... theres no chance...)
RE: display picture & scene download notifier? by whiz on 02-21-2010 at 07:31 PM
Well, actually... aren't contact's display pictures available from Messenger.MyContacts.GetContact(/* contact email */).DisplayPicture?
You could enumerate the contact list, open each contact's display picture, open yours, and check each contact's one to yours. If it's a match, assume they stole it.
RE: display picture & scene download notifier? by CookieRevised on 02-24-2010 at 12:19 AM
quote:You could do that but what is the point?
Originally posted by likurtgerty
but is there something that will tell me when it does go through p2p and it is possible to know who downloaded it?
This has nothing to do with somebody "stealing" the DP.
Also, you can never conclude "person X has downloaded it". All you could conclude, at best, is that something related to person X has downloaded it. Because as I said before, there are many many occasions where person X doesn't even realize that his client program downloaded or syncronized your DP, be it Messenger or whatever other program which uses display pictures connected to Windows Live. Remember that Messenger is just one of the many programs and online services which use the display picture (and other info for that matter). Messenger, and everything you use in there like DP, scenes, etc is not just a standalone, isolated program anymore, it is part of a big suite where all this stuff is shared between it. And those services and programs will only grow larger in the future (eg: connection between the Windows Live platform and Facebook, Twitter, etc etc)... And because of that most stuff will be syncronized via servers, not via p2p.
So, yes, you could make a script or whatever which might* detect that someone on your Messenger contactlist has the same DP as you. But that would only be a fraction of the potential duplication which might have occured. Not to mention the copies of copies which you have in no way control of or that you in no way can detect. And, also as said before, you can never know if the 'download' was intentional or if it was because a client application syncronized all the DPs on the list (usually it is the latter anyways).
So, again, what is the point? If you want to prevent people from intentionally duplicating your DP, then make the DP very personal to you (so it makes no sense that they copy it) or don't share a DP at all...
* I said "might" because in some cases your DP is saved in a different format or resaved as a JPG making the picture look the same but byte by byte it is not the same (especially true when people intentionally copy a DP; making the whole detection scheme even more useless). You must use intelligent algorithms to compare two photos to be able to detect such similar (but not exactly the same) photos.