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http:// doesn't hyperlink... by Tomo-L on 03-13-2010 at 10:29 PM

Using the latest version of WLM, all links with http:// or https:// don't activate as a link but without the prefix (simply www.google.com) hyperlinks just fine...

I've tried everything. Zapped MSN, deleted all of the application data...just can't seem to figure this one out, it's really annoying.

Any ideas? :(

RE: http:// doesn't hyperlink... by Chris4 on 03-13-2010 at 10:34 PM

What add-ons do you have?

What security software do you have?

RE: http:// doesn't hyperlink... by Tomo-L on 03-13-2010 at 10:34 PM

Just Messenger Plus, and Microsoft Security Essentials.

RE: http:// doesn't hyperlink... by teddman123 on 03-13-2010 at 11:14 PM

i have the same problem, using WLM upto date version,MSG plus most current version and only 1 script, Screenshot sender.

Security Software, AVG Free upto date too

I have tried everything to get this to work but to no avail

RE: http:// doesn't hyperlink... by Tomo-L on 03-13-2010 at 11:21 PM

I have no scripts on my MsgPlus, just to add.

RE: http:// doesn't hyperlink... by Spunky on 03-13-2010 at 11:41 PM

Can't Confirm - See if there are any common versions below so we can potentially rule them out

OS: Windows 7
WLM: 14.0.8089.726
MP!L: 4.83.0.376 (24/12/2009)

Microsoft Security Essentials:
Microsoft Security Essentials Version:  1.0.1961.0
Antimalware Client Version: 2.1.6519.0
Engine Version: 1.1.5502.0
Antivirus definitions: 1.77.970.0
Antispyware definitions: 1.77.970.0


http://google.com - works
http://www.google.com - works
www.google.com - works
https://google.com - works
https://www.google.com - works
google.com -  doesn't (intentionally)

RE: http:// doesn't hyperlink... by Tomo-L on 03-13-2010 at 11:48 PM

OS: Windows 7 x64
WLM: 14.0.8089.726
MP!L: 4.83.0.376

Microsoft Security Essentials:
Microsoft Security Essentials Version:  1.0.1961.0
Antimalware Client Version: 2.1.6519.0
Engine Version: 1.1.5502.0
Antivirus definitions: 1.77.933.0
Antispyware definitions: 1.77.933.0

http://google.com - doesn't work
http://www.google.com - doesn't work
www.google.com - works
https://google.com - doesn't work
https://www.google.com - doesn't work
google.com -  doesn't (intentionally)

RE: http:// doesn't hyperlink... by blessedguy on 03-13-2010 at 11:59 PM

Tried on Windows XP 32 bits and Windows 7 32 and 64 bits, both with WLM 14.0.8089.726 and MP!L: 4.83.0.376, also both with up-to-date Microsoft Security Essentials.

Every http:// and https:// working here:
[Image: af9d81bf1a6285fadf952d0a57d80278.png]

RE: http:// doesn't hyperlink... by teddman123 on 03-14-2010 at 12:02 AM

OS: Windows 7 x86
WLM: 14.0.0726
MP!L: 4.83

http://google.com - Doesnt work
http://www.google.com - Doesnt Work
www.google.com - works
https://google.com - Doesnt Work
https://www.google.com - Doesnt Work
google.com -  doesn't (intentionally)

RE: http:// doesn't hyperlink... by teddman123 on 03-14-2010 at 12:43 AM

ok might have sorted this one, mines now fully working with all http:// and https:// links.

It seems that if you run messenger in compatability with Windows Vista (to get msn to appear in your notifications area in Windows 7) then it doesnt work (really random).

I just took my msn off windows Vista Compatability and ran it normally and works fine.

Hope this helps?

RE: http:// doesn't hyperlink... by Tomo-L on 03-14-2010 at 12:47 AM

Ah, that works. Wow.

I'd like it to be in the notification area though! Catch 22. :(

RE: http:// doesn't hyperlink... by blessedguy on 03-14-2010 at 12:48 AM

quote:
Originally posted by teddman123
then it doesnt work (really random).
It's not random: the compatibility mode should only be used when the application doesn't run on your current version, as you'll be vunerable to known and unknown issues.
RE: http:// doesn't hyperlink... by teddman123 on 03-14-2010 at 12:52 AM

ok well its still a pain, but i can live with it until WLM patch this.

Thanks anyway

RE: RE: http:// doesn't hyperlink... by Tomo-L on 03-14-2010 at 01:08 AM

quote:
Originally posted by blessedguy
quote:
Originally posted by teddman123
then it doesnt work (really random).
It's not random: the compatibility mode should only be used when the application doesn't run on your current version, as you'll be vunerable to known and unknown issues.

But they recommend it;
http://windowslive.com/Connect/Post/5b307258-ed57...-bd64-cdf861754f94
RE: http:// doesn't hyperlink... by djdannyp on 03-14-2010 at 01:17 AM

Mynetx is actually a member of these forums and not a member of Windows Live staff or anything.  That recommendation is only a workaround to get the icon back in the system tray (which isn't really that important) but it is NOT recommended as it can cause other issues, such as the one you have just experienced

RE: http:// doesn't hyperlink... by Spunky on 03-14-2010 at 01:22 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Tomo-L
quote:
Originally posted by blessedguy
quote:
Originally posted by teddman123
then it doesnt work (really random).
It's not random: the compatibility mode should only be used when the application doesn't run on your current version, as you'll be vunerable to known and unknown issues.

But they recommend it;
http://windowslive.com/Connect/Post/5b307258-ed57...-bd64-cdf861754f94

That is not an official post from The Windows Live Team, rather a post by a forum regular "mynetx". It was written before problems with compatibility mode were discovered, or put a bit better, widely known.

Setting to run under a different version of Windows can break quite a few internal workings of WLM.

I will see if I can contact mynetx to put a warning on the post regarding these issues.



EDIT:


quote:
Originally posted by teddman123
ok well its still a pain, but i can live with it until WLM patch this.

Thanks anyway

This will not be patched. This is how things are going to work from now on in Windows 7. There is no need for it to be in the system tray as so much more space is now available on the taskbar due to larger monitors and better resolutions, as well as the change to only displaying icons (by default)
RE: http:// doesn't hyperlink... by Tomo-L on 03-14-2010 at 01:25 AM

Fair enough, sorry.

RE: http:// doesn't hyperlink... by blessedguy on 03-14-2010 at 01:35 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Spunky
This will not be patched. This is how things are going to work from now on in Windows 7. There is no need for it to be in the system tray as so much more space is now available on the taskbar due to larger monitors and better resolutions, as well as the change to only displaying icons (by default)
[off-topic, kind of]
Not everyone likes the icons without labels, and the Messenger + Mail couple simply takes up a ton of space when showing labels (and I, like many others, won't buy a larger monitor [17'' seems big enough for me] only to have some extra programs shown).
I'd also love an official way to put Messenger (and Mail) back in the system tray :(
RE: http:// doesn't hyperlink... by Spunky on 03-14-2010 at 01:48 AM

This is just the way Windows is moving. As WLM now expects to be on the taskbar under windows 7, that's where it needs to be. You can always send the team feedback about putting in an option for it, but really there's no need. If you don't have enough space, make your taskbar taller or remove some unused programs from the quicklaunch.

It's not the most elegant solution, but it beats having loads of hidden programs in the system tray and forgetting about them. I really do think eventually the system tray should just go, with a simple program added in to monitor background services with notifications showing above the icon on the taskbar, or if it is not pinned, the clock

I'm stubborn and usually in the minority of people with things like this, but the system tray is outdated and needed an overhaul.

RE: http:// doesn't hyperlink... by Chris4 on 03-14-2010 at 01:51 AM

quote:
Originally posted by blessedguy
Not everyone likes the icons without labels, and the Messenger + Mail couple simply takes up a ton of space when showing labels (and I, like many others, won't buy a larger monitor [17'' seems big enough for me] only to have some extra programs shown).
I don't see the problem with Windows 7's icon-only taskbar, it saves so much space and is far better than the old-style. Why would one need a label saying 'Windows Live Messenger' when you can clearly distinguish that from its icon?
RE: http:// doesn't hyperlink... by Tomo-L on 03-14-2010 at 01:56 AM

It's not really about space, it's more this window on the left being absolutely useless;

[Image: wlm.jpg]

And I'm just used to having it in the system tray, it's just convenient I suppose. My system tray is not cluttered, I'm running 1680x1050.

RE: http:// doesn't hyperlink... by blessedguy on 03-14-2010 at 02:04 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Chris4
I don't see the problem with Windows 7's icon-only taskbar, it saves so much space and is far better than the old-style. Why would one need a label saying 'Windows Live Messenger' when you can clearly distinguish that from its icon?
Because I don't need Messenger there, thus moving it to the tray again.
It's a personal taste: I like to always know what a window is without getting my hands off the keyboard. Even iTunes can be minimized to tray, why can't Microsoft make the same?
RE: http:// doesn't hyperlink... by Lou on 03-14-2010 at 03:07 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Tomo-L
It's not really about space, it's more this window on the left being absolutely useless;

[Image: wlm.jpg]

And I'm just used to having it in the system tray, it's just convenient I suppose. My system tray is not cluttered, I'm running 1680x1050.
quote:
Originally posted by Spunky
There is no need for it to be in the system tray as so much more space is now available on the taskbar due to larger monitors and better resolutions
Care to buy me a new monitor? Frankly, I agree with Tomo-L here. It wouldn't bother me so much if I didn't have to see the damned thing twice. Why are there two icons on the taskbar when there could easily just be one? It's pointless.

Besides, I'm running it in compatibility mode and I don't experience any of the above mentioned problems.
RE: http:// doesn't hyperlink... by djdannyp on 03-14-2010 at 11:02 AM

I agree about the window on the left, but it's being removed in WLM 2010 anyway.  Isn't it just to show which user is signed in in cases of polygamy, like so that you know which window relates to which user?

RE: RE: http:// doesn't hyperlink... by Tomo-L on 03-14-2010 at 11:25 AM

quote:
Originally posted by djdannyp
I agree about the window on the left, but it's being removed in WLM 2010 anyway.  Isn't it just to show which user is signed in in cases of polygamy, like so that you know which window relates to which user?

Well that would make sense, if polygamy was a standard feature of WLM. Why would they implement something to support a feature that you can only use with an addon? Doesn't make sense to me.
RE: http:// doesn't hyperlink... by djdannyp on 03-14-2010 at 11:49 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Tomo-L
quote:
Originally posted by djdannyp
I agree about the window on the left, but it's being removed in WLM 2010 anyway.  Isn't it just to show which user is signed in in cases of polygamy, like so that you know which window relates to which user?

Well that would make sense, if polygamy was a standard feature of WLM. Why would they implement something to support a feature that you can only use with an addon? Doesn't make sense to me.

Yeah, I had thought that, but I know they do recognise the work of Messenger Plus! Live (there was an article on it a while ago), so it is possible
RE: http:// doesn't hyperlink... by Chrissy on 03-14-2010 at 04:04 PM

I have it on and can still send hyperlinks.

RE: http:// doesn't hyperlink... by Tomo-L on 03-14-2010 at 04:07 PM

quote:
Originally posted by krissy-afc
I have it on and can still send hyperlinks.
Near enough everyone can, it's just a small few by the looks of it. Not quite sure what causes it. Annoying, really!
RE: RE: http:// doesn't hyperlink... by CookieRevised on 03-14-2010 at 11:17 PM

[OFF TOPIC]

quote:
Originally posted by djdannyp
quote:
Originally posted by Tomo-L
quote:
Originally posted by djdannyp
I agree about the window on the left, but it's being removed in WLM 2010 anyway.  Isn't it just to show which user is signed in in cases of polygamy, like so that you know which window relates to which user?

Well that would make sense, if polygamy was a standard feature of WLM. Why would they implement something to support a feature that you can only use with an addon? Doesn't make sense to me.

Yeah, I had thought that, but I know they do recognise the work of Messenger Plus! Live (there was an article on it a while ago), so it is possible
The double window is/was* a kind of 'bug'; aka a not wanted side effect. It was not a start of a new feature (like polygamy) or something though.

*as such one of the first things they fixed in WLM 2010

--

I very strongly agree with having an option to put WLM back into the system tray though. It isn't just about space or cluttered the system tray (my system tray contains no other stuff than the clock and the lan connection icon for example), but there is a very strong case to make that IM programs like mIRC, WLM, etc are many times used as kind of "background processes" and therefore have a perfect place in the system tray when used in that way. Double clicking them (to get them from "background process" status to "normal usage program" status) and you'll have the taskbar button, just as it is in XP. Perfect synergy if you ask me.

When I'm working with lots of different programs I don't need a WLM button smack in the middle of the rest on my taskbar because it is exactly _that_ what I call cluttering, wasting space and diverting attention to what is important; having an icon in the system tray is not...

And as a counter agrument for the 'many people have bigger resolutions now': netbooks are getting more and more popular and they have far smaller resolutions than most average screen resolutions. Not to mention that, again, working with a lot of programs together will use up any space, no matter how large your resolution is.

[OFF TOPIC]