I managed to finally break my iPhone 2G when I was on holiday so am getting the new one now.

Have to wait until at least the end of July before I can order online/by phone though

Is anyone else planning on getting one?

Especially coming from the 2G I should notice quite a speed increase!

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Anyone else getting the iPhone 4?

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I will be once my contract is over (early next year). And hopefully by then the price has dropped to something more affordable. Tbh tho I kinda like the old, rounder shape better; but im sure in time it will grow on me.

... no

I've thought about it as my contract's up in 2 weeks, but I only recently got the Nokia 5800 so I'm probably just gonna negotiate for a better contract deal....I've got an iPod Touch (although only 1st Gen so I can't get iOS4 ) and I don't really like the keypad on it, I wouldn't want to have to text on that (and I text a lot).

It's damn tempting though, looks so nice!

i don't see why anyone would still want to buy an iphone with android now being a worthy contender

Talking about android phones..

I happen to have been able to play with an iphone 3GS and an HTC Desire (dunno if it's available there in your countries, and/or with other names). In my opinion iphone still has a better and slicker interface. Buttons, although not-text-tagged, behave just as I expect them to - for android phones, this would not always be the case.

Also, per my own experience, developing new applications on iphones "feels" better - the development tools are more-or-less more complete. Eclipse? Just not as good. (This is even though I have prior programming experience in Java but not in Object C/Three-20 ) Yeah I admit you need OSX to develop iphone applications... but I have a Mac, so it doesn't matter

I'm buying one on PAYG and transferring my contract as soon as I half the money. .

There's no way iPhone is worth £499...

I'll stick with my £150 Nokia 5800.

I'm planning to get one, but first I need to find the money on a trash can or somewhere else.

I am really at a loss at the moment as to what I want to purchase. I currently have the HTC Touch Diamond running Windows Mobile 6.5 on a custom rom and I love it. But I really don't know. The iPhone4 is looking like it is going to be great (now that they finally have added multitasking) but Android seems to be the way majority of phones are going. I read somewhere that voice commands do not work yet properly on the android. Is this the case? Can you give commands over a bluetooth headset? Thanks!

I will when it's unlockable (or if the national stores sell it for less than USD1200), that screen has got me (and I'm already loving iOS4 in my iPod touch) 
Also, the new back seems to scratch less, which is a nice bonus.

Yea I'm going to wait until there's a jailbreak for it, couldn't use my iPhone without it!  Had loads of tweaks and stuff installed from Cydia.

I've always liked the idea of Android, but I still haven't seen any actual hardware I like really and after using an iPhone for 2 years I have got so used to everything it does and the way it works it would be hard for me to get used to another phone!

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Originally posted by Chris4
There's no way iPhone is worth £499...

I'll stick with my £150 Nokia 5800.

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just sold my iphone 3gs for a htc desire... best choice i have ever made [=

so no... apple will not be getting monies from me!

the prices are a complete joke tbh (not just iphones, but most phones), how on earth can they justify £400/500 for a phone? then again with millions of morons willing to pay it, it's unlikely to change

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just looked at iphone 3gs sim free - £500-600 what a joke

rofl!

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Originally posted by betanews
The rumors are true: iPhone 4 signal strength wavers when the device is held in the hand. [...] When the phone is flat down, I see four to five bars. When I hold the device in my left hand, the bars slowly go down until either there is one bar or "searching" appears on the screen. [...] By appearances, the act of holding the phone impares signal strength.

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Just way too expensive (all Apple products in general ).

And still regretting over the LG Arena. I'll probably move over to Androids when this thing dies >.>

No, because it sucks. Jobs telling iPhone 2G users to buy a new iPhone to get iOS4? Screw him, that alone makes me want to throw away my iPhone and buy a good Droid phone .

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Originally posted by SonicSam
No, because it sucks. Telling iPhone 2G users to buy a new iPhone to get iOS4? Screw him, that alone makes me want to throw away my iPhone and buy a good Droid phone .

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No, because it sucks. Telling iPhone 2G users to buy a new iPhone to get iOS4? Screw him, that alone makes me want to throw away my iPhone and buy a good Droid phone .

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Mm, that kinda annoys me about my 1st Gen iPod Touch....can't get iOS4 and now I've already had one app saying it won't install an updated version without the new OS

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Yeah, I did see about that......not too keen on Jailbreaking again though, did it once and it was alright for a laugh, but it slowed it down and drained the battery even more

just seen that i can get the iphone 4 32gb for £570, think i'll be off to the shop in the morning





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Originally posted by toddy
just seen that i can get the iphone 4 32gb for £570, think i'll be off to the shop in the morning





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Nobody's forcing you to buy it. It's for people that will use it and for people that need it.

Some people will pay that much because it's worth it and may get them more money back.

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No, because it sucks. Jobs telling iPhone 2G users to buy a new iPhone to get iOS4? Screw him, that alone makes me want to throw away my iPhone and buy a good Droid phone .

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Nobody's forcing you to buy it. It's for people that will use it and for people that need it.

Some people will pay that much because it's worth it and may get them more money back.

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how on earth is it worth it?

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Nobody's forcing you to buy it. It's for people that will use it and for people that need it.

Some people will pay that much because it's worth it and may get them more money back.

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how on earth is it worth it?

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If someone runs a business and the features of the iPhone will help make there business more efficient I would say it's pretty worth it.

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No, because it sucks. Jobs telling iPhone 2G users to buy a new iPhone to get iOS4? Screw him, that alone makes me want to throw away my iPhone and buy a good Droid phone .

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I don't really get why people moan that their 3 year old phone isn't having any new software updates, how many other phones are still having updates three years after their initial release?

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Originally posted by SonicSam
The problem is there is no reason NOT to support it.

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The problem is there is no reason NOT to support it.

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The problem is there is no reason NOT to support it.

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I don't get the joke, nor do I care. I'm running iDroid on my iPhone more than the iPhone software.

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The problem is there is no reason NOT to support it.

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I don't get the joke, nor do I care. I'm running iDroid on my iPhone more than the iPhone software.

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why would apple waste time updating software for old phones, when most owners are thick n will buy the new model

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...when my 2g BREAKS/is unusable, ill buy the new one...

definitely not upgrading each time one comes out though! F*** THAT!!

To those complaining about price, it's only a few hundred pounds more than other normal phones and around the same price as other smart phones when bought on contract.

Personally though, I'm going to wait until my contract is up in 2012! Hopefully there'll be an iPhone 5 out by then that is 4G. I recently bought an iPhone 3GS and have never looked back. Hands down the best smart phone on the planet, better than any crapdroid device.

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Originally posted by traxor
Personally though, I'm going to wait until my contract is up in 2012!

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To those complaining about price, it's only a few hundred pounds more than other normal phones and around the same price as other smart phones when bought on contract.

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it's only a few hundred pounds more than other normal phones

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it's only a few hundred pounds more than other normal phones

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To those complaining about price, it's only a few hundred pounds more than other normal phones and around the same price as other smart phones when bought on contract.

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and the justification for the "few hundred ponds"? an apple logo & shitty itunes ?

and you're having a laugh at "a few", more like £500 more

heck for half the money you can get: a phone, a pda, an mp3 player, and a proper camera

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i'll get omne but only if wacky drives the get away car after i steal it

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8761240.stm

Personally I like a phone that you don't have to hold in a special way to get it to work

Out of 59 o2 stores in Scotland only 1 has stock at the moment.

Why is it every release of an apple product they have very LIMITED stock?

I'm sure it's a marketing technique.

Because it's Apple and they have big huge public releases and built up hype that loads and loads of people queue up on the night of release and buy all of them straight away.....this never happens with anything else (except Harry Potter books, but same thing goes there )

You'd never have every shop selling out of a new Nokia straight away.....because people just go and buy them normally at a normal rate, rather than rushing out to instantly get the latest offering from the almighty Apple

And no, I'm not an Apple hater, I've got an iPod touch,  and MacBook Pro and owned 3 other iPods

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Because it's Apple and they have big huge public releases and built up hype that loads and loads of people queue up on the night of release and buy all of them straight away.....this never happens with anything else (except Harry Potter books, but same thing goes there )

You'd never have every shop selling out of a new Nokia straight away.....because people just go and buy them normally at a normal rate, rather than rushing out to instantly get the latest offering from the almighty Apple

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Originally posted by traxor
There's no justifying it until you own or use an iPhone. People hate iPhones until they use them, it's the same with any Apple product. When you receive it, you understand why it costs so much . On a decent contrast with a LOT of minutes that only costs me a bit more than my old when where I had 1/3 of the minutes and no internet (iPhone = unlimited internet & texts), I only paid a little for the iPhone and it was perfect. Exactly the same as what you'd get if you paid for it.

I've used Android devices, old and new, I've used blackberries, windows mobiles and other smartphones and nothing can compare to iOS4 and the wide array of apps that are available.

It's the world's most successful mobile device for a reason.

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aka you're a sheep and buy what you're told is cool

i think twice about spending £600 on a laptop, let alone on something that does much less, at a slower speed and is much more likely to break.

after all what does it really do?
make/receive calls - £10 phones do this
touch screen - £30 have this
internet/emails/doc editing/etc - £100 phones do this just as well if not better
plays music - you can get mp3 players for a couple quid, for a  little more and you can easily beat the storage capacity.
camera - a £20 camera takes better photos
other features/app - all basically pointless novelty crap

£100 phone + SD card(s) + £450 change/spare easily beats the iphone for anyone with a brain

p.s.
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Make/receive calls: Sure, a £10 phone does this, but would a £10 phone allow you to switch automatically to a video chat over WiFi immediately? Would it allow you to put the individual on speaker phone, then allow you to switch tasks to perhaps read out emails and even download new ones? No. Even phones that are expensive don't do this well, the iPhone does it incredible well.
Touch screen: Sorry buddy, but even the expensive HTC and Motorola handsets don't have touch screens that are as responsive as the iPhone/iPod touch screens.
Internet/Emails/Doc Editing: As above, the iPhone executes this better than any other device. Sure, the HTC phones do use browsers with rendering engines like webkit but Mobile Safari consistently wins the battles over the best mobile browser.

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Seriously, the iPhone is the most cost-effective smartphone on the market.

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Get an MP3 player, a £10 phone and a £20 camera then, try and hold all that in one pocket and access it all easily only having to press a few buttons

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all apple products are over price & over hyped. yes some of them have their uses & some nice features/tricks, but none of them are worth anywhere near the silly money they want.

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why the fuck would anyone want 3 email accounts and then have the same contacts in them all. Just use the 1 account

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Agreed.  They are good pieces of hardware.....they are more stable than most other things.  But there's WAY too much hype over any of their products being released.....and they are massively overpriced.  I could understand them being a fraction more.......but when they're 3-4 (or more) times as much.....it's not justified

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You don't have all the same contacts, it's just an address book.

I have many email accounts for separate businesses that I run, for my personal email and for my work email == all necessary

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Agreed.  They are good pieces of hardware.....they are more stable than most other things.  But there's WAY too much hype over any of their products being released.....and they are massively overpriced.  I could understand them being a fraction more.......but when they're 3-4 (or more) times as much.....it's not justified

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When you work out the price for the operating system and the high quality products, it's clear that they're well priced.

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Android > 'iOS'

I had an iPhone for almost 2 years, two weeks with Android 2.1 and I hate the iPhone OS.

2.2 is out soon too

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You don't have all the same contacts, it's just an address book.

I have many email accounts for separate businesses that I run, for my personal email and for my work email == all necessary

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i can see the point of having different email addresses, but whats the point in having your mates contact details in your work account, or your work contacts in your personal account etc

aka pointless crap

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Anyone looking sensibly and without bias would agree that they're over-priced.  It is a better quality operating system (in some senses) and a higher quality hardware build.......but it's not THAT much better that it warrants being that much more expensive......it's too much

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Anyone looking sensibly and without bias would agree that they're over-priced.  It is a better quality operating system (in some senses) and a higher quality hardware build.......but it's not THAT much better that it warrants being that much more expensive......it's too much

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You have to need it, use it and own it to understand how more better the build quality of Macs is.

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Originally posted by djdannyp
Don't try to patronise me (or at least if you're going to, get your grammar right).  I do need, use and own a MacBook Pro and an iPod Touch (the 3rd iPod I've owned) and I absolutely love them, I would never want to go back to anything other than an iPod...and after my experience with a MacBook I'd be loathe to never have a Mac available to me.  I'm not denying that the build quality of Macs is a lot better, I'm saying that they are overpriced, it's not so much an opinion as a matter of fact.  The more you blindly argue it the more you just seem like another deluded Apple fan boy....nothing is perfect and failing to admit that doesn't help your cause

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Agreed.  They are good pieces of hardware.....they are more stable than most other things.  But there's WAY too much hype over any of their products being released.....and they are massively overpriced.  I could understand them being a fraction more.......but when they're 3-4 (or more) times as much.....it's not justified

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When you work out the price for the operating system and the high quality products, it's clear that they're well priced.

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Anyone looking sensibly and without bias would agree that they're over-priced.  It is a better quality operating system (in some senses) and a higher quality hardware build.......but it's not THAT much better that it warrants being that much more expensive......it's too much

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That's at least 4 companies here in the UK. Kinda shows you there not over priced because if they were some companies could go lower and get more sales.

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If you want a decent Windows laptop you have to pay upwards of £500, not much cheaper than Mac counterparts.

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Anyone looking sensibly and without bias would agree that they're over-priced.  It is a better quality operating system (in some senses) and a higher quality hardware build.......but it's not THAT much better that it warrants being that much more expensive......it's too much

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if you were ok with a 3GS, those are now $99

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i know the IPhone is expensive in Australia, i think the cheapest plan is $60 a month which i cannot afford that on my income. http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile/phones/iphone/pricing.html

http://personal.optus.com.au/web/ocaportal.portal...xclude=-1|-1|-1|-1


the IPhone 4 should be in Aussie stores next week. hate to see the Price of those though, but might bring down prices of the IPhone3

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Still incredible high prices when you compare them to what you end up paying per month btw. Haven't they ever heard of free phones in the US?

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Really all these complaints on how shit the features are and parts of the phone would be non existent if someone actually got the phone or it was cheaper.

When the iPhones were first released all I did was despise anything apple and hated the phones. When I got the 3G as a gift it was the best phone in the world.

just a note for people who keep saying IOS4 supports multitasking, its not full multitasking, its a limited version where the app devs have to code support in, and it only supports certain events in the background, unlike android which allows _anything_.

this is what the iPhone supports
    Background audio
    Voice over IP
    Background location
    Push notifications
    Local notifications
    Task finishing
    Fast app switching



Honestly, I've had a HTC desire for a while now (and a HTC dream before that), and every iPhone user i let play with it is like "Wow". It's screen is FANTASTIC, AMOLED > TFT screens, AMOLED screens are so crisp and colouful compared to every mobile TFT screen I've seen.

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Touch screen: Sorry buddy, but even the expensive HTC and Motorola handsets don't have touch screens that are as responsive as the iPhone/iPod touch screens.

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Other features/apps: Haha, I can't even believe this comment. On my phone at the moment I have my contact list that is synced with my work account, home account and my Google account. A camera that takes good photos but geotags them so when I stick it in my iMac, I get a cool map showing me pictures from where I've been. YouTube (which is a novelty), a calendar which updates my online calendars, a clock (uber useful if you have a life), Evernote for article ideas, site ideas etc (once again, synced online), ReadItLater & Reeder to keep up to date with articles online, Facebook & Twitter for the whole social media thing, Dropbox so I can access all of the files in my little cloud EASILY... On top of this just to name a few I have Ego (Analytics for SEO purposes), Monkey (FTP & File Editor), Wikipanion, a guitar tuner and a load of games. Yeah, pointless. These apps provide me with entertainment when I'm bored and also allow me to work on the go (more money, to pay for my [sorry to swear] fucking awesome iPhone).

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