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Plus not showing on msn by CrazyGurl on 09-12-2010 at 04:34 PM
I have windows live messenger 8.5 (h*cked) with messenger plus! (latest version) on my PC and it works fine.
So now i try on my new laptop and plus doesn't show up on msn.
I 've tried reinstalling/ using older versions...... nothing has worked to make plus show up on msn.
I dont have smiley central or any other thing suggested causes problems in the other threads on the forums.
Does anyone know what can fix it? 
RE: Plus not showing on msn by matty on 09-12-2010 at 04:46 PM
Are you running Windows Live Messenger in compatibility mode? What version of Windows are they both running?
RE: Plus not showing on msn by CrazyGurl on 09-12-2010 at 05:14 PM
I have windows XP on my pc (that plus works on) and my newlaptop is windows 7
RE: Plus not showing on msn by matty on 09-12-2010 at 05:18 PM
quote:The only way to get 8.5 working on Windows 7 is to run it in compatibility mode and Plus! doesn't support Windows Live Messenger in this mode.
Originally posted by CrazyGurl
I have windows XP on my pc (that plus works on) and my newlaptop is windows 7
RE: Plus not showing on msn by Chrissy on 09-12-2010 at 05:20 PM
quote:Lies
Originally posted by matty
quote:The only way to get 8.5 working on Windows 7 is to run it in compatibility mode and Plus! doesn't support Windows Live Messenger in this mode.
Originally posted by CrazyGurl
I have windows XP on my pc (that plus works on) and my newlaptop is windows 7
It still works fine with me without bugs..
RE: Plus not showing on msn by matty on 09-12-2010 at 05:23 PM
Then why have all the reports of people running it in Compatibility mode and it not working...
RE: Plus not showing on msn by Chrissy on 09-12-2010 at 05:29 PM
Fair enough it causes problems on some set-ups with some people but I still see no reason why users can't use it if they're having no problems..
RE: Plus not showing on msn by matty on 09-12-2010 at 05:35 PM
That isn't the point. Plus! doesn't work from what I have seen when WLM is run in compatibility mode.
RE: Plus not showing on msn by CrazyGurl on 09-12-2010 at 05:55 PM
Im not running it in compatibility mode, my msn works fine it just won;t show plus.
is it something to do with win7?
RE: Plus not showing on msn by djdannyp on 09-12-2010 at 07:06 PM
It's nothing to do with Windows 7, it's to do with the hacked version of Messenger that you're running.
If you upgrade to WLM 2009 then re-install Messenger Plus! Live, then it will work correctly for you.
RE: Plus not showing on msn by CrazyGurl on 09-12-2010 at 09:58 PM
No it's not, i have exactly the same msn on my PC and it works fine.
RE: Plus not showing on msn by djdannyp on 09-12-2010 at 10:32 PM
When you hack software to make it work, it's going to have unpredictable behaviour.
Until you're running a stable set-up, it's hard to diagnose the cause of a problem. You say that you aren't running any of the incompatible software....so it can only be the hacked version of Messenger causing the problem. If you install the current version and the problem still exists, then it will be easier to diagnose, because we first need to rule out the instabilities of your setup as being the cause of the problem, as it's the most likely cause
RE: Plus not showing on msn by vaccination on 09-12-2010 at 10:48 PM
quote:Um, changing one string to change the version number isn't exactly a massive hack, and is unlikely to cause this problem(evidenced by the fact that I know a fair few people using it without any loss of functionality).
Originally posted by djdannyp
When you hack software to make it work, it's going to have unpredictable behaviour.
Until you're running a stable set-up, it's hard to diagnose the cause of a problem. You say that you aren't running any of the incompatible software....so it can only be the hacked version of Messenger causing the problem. If you install the current version and the problem still exists, then it will be easier to diagnose, because we first need to rule out the instabilities of your setup as being the cause of the problem, as it's the most likely cause
quote:Probably not.
Originally posted by djdannyp
If you upgrade to WLM 2009 then re-install Messenger Plus! Live, then it will work correctly for you.
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Your best bet is to run through the installed programs on your PC and Laptop and see if anything stands out that's installed on Laptop that could affect it. Also worth checking the WLM settings you have on both computers. Assuming you've installed WLM and Plus! cleanly and properly it should work fine.
If you don't notice anything, completely uninstall Plus!, and then completely uninstall WLM, reboot and start again.
RE: Plus not showing on msn by CrazyGurl on 09-12-2010 at 11:30 PM
Okay i installed the newest msn and it still didnt work, so i've gone back to the 8.5. i reaaly do not like the new msn.
what else could be causing the problem?
RE: Plus not showing on msn by CookieRevised on 09-12-2010 at 11:48 PM
Please do not use version 8.5 anymore.
There is a reason why they depricted it, and it isn't just to "force you using their bloated software" (like some people describe it). It also has to do with bugs and security issues!!!
Please, at least install WLM 2009. Like djdannyp explained: it is of no use using a hacked version when trying to troubleshoot the problems you have. The first step in such situation is to use the intended version without any hacks/addons/etc...
Time and again, year after year, people try to hack their Messenger so they can keep on using it. But not everybody succeeds. Of course, the people for which it does work claim by high and low that it "works" and that "there are no problems at all". But in almost every single case, those people do NOT have the full and proper knowledge to properly diagnose or recognize possible problems. And again and again, after some time, people start to experience problems. But by that time it has been so long ago since they tampered with stuff that they actually forgot what they did and thus blame the problem on something else than their own tampering.
I can go on and on about this. But the bottom line is:
Hacking Messenger in any way or form, yes even simply changing a version number, can cause problems (and not just for you btw, but also for your contacts and even the Messenger service in general!!!!!) and should never be done! Your Messenger will not be working properly 100% and you will experience problems, if not now, then later on...
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quote:Indeed, but that does not change the fact that it would still be using a possible depricted protocol and other possible incompatible services, ports and methods to connect to the Messenger service and do some stuff. Which CAN cause troubles (especially since quite a lot of fundamental inner workings are changing or have already been changed since then). Of which it is quite possible you wont notice it at first when something goes wrong or you wont think it is related to something like this.
Originally posted by vaccination
Um, changing one string to change the version number isn't exactly a massive hack
eg: contacts being auto-blocked when you add them, etc, to simply name an example (I'm not claiming it is related, but just giving an example of how things can be related).
bottom line: even simple stuff like changing a version number can cause bigger problems than one might think. Especially when dealing with depricted versions.
Thus:
quote:Unless you start using Windows Live Messenger 2009 (a complete clean install), there is unfortunatly no proper way to properly diagnose your problems...
Originally posted by CrazyGurl
Okay i installed the newest msn and it still didnt work, so i've gone back to the 8.5. i reaaly do not like the new msn.
what else could be causing the problem?
Even if there was a problem found with 8.5 being installed, and it could be 'fixed', you would still have other problems when you keep on using 8.5.
Note that it is not because 2009 didn't work when you installed it, that the reason behind it not working is the same as why 8.5 doesn't work! It might be, but it might also be something entirly different.
Also "it didn't work" isn't realy telling a lot. Always give as much details as possible; what exact step didn't work when you installed 2009?, what exactly did you do?, do you get error messages?, what happens exactly?, etc, etc....
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RE: Plus not showing on msn by CrazyGurl on 09-13-2010 at 05:38 PM
Whoa calm down 
Btw, i'm not a guy lol.
Arguing doesn't solve my problem, it was a clean install of 2009 when i tested it, and also clean 8.5, i used the same setup file that i used on my PC, same way to change the version.
So changing to 2009 didn't fix the problem, it has to be something else. Maybe a conflicting program or windows live software.
I had to uninstall the windows live essentials that came with the laptop to get 8.5 to install.
Or maybe the plus processes aren't being loaded properly, on my PC sometimes when plus has an error i have to reboot to fix it so the software has loaded fully.
Internets: serious business. 