Messenger Plus! Live recently introduced three new applications which millions of users have added to their toolbars:  Messenger Plus! Live Add-ons, Plus! Translator and Plus! Games:

--Messenger Plus! Live Add-ons – with more than 11 million downloads, users can access the best features of Messenger Plus! Live directly from their toolbar. They can download skins and scripts and read the latest Messenger Plus! Live news.

--Plus! Games – with approximately 17 million downloads, users can play a wide variety of casual games, all for free.

--Plus! Translator – translate text from and to more than 60 languages directly from your toolbar, without using a human translator.  Easy and quick to use, this application has been installed by close to 13 million users.

These toolbar applications are also promoted through the Conduit network and available in the Application Marketplace. You can add them to your toolbar and check them out yourself!



PlusNetwork, (including Plus! Sports and Plus! Games) and the Messenger Plus! Live toolbars support Messenger Plus! Live by letting us devote more resources towards the development of new features, as well as helping keep Messenger Plus! Live stay free.

Nice.

Oh boy! Thanks heaps guys for these wonderful toolbars.

Yay, waited for years for somthing like that...

Now I can add a Plus! Toolbar as well:

Yay! More toolbars for Christmas... just what I always wanted!!!

I know you guys need to make money but seriously this is getting ridiculous...

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Originally posted by matty
I know you guys need to make money but seriously this is getting ridiculous...

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Originally posted by matty
Yay! More toolbars for Christmas... just what I always wanted!!!

I know you guys need to make money but seriously this is getting ridiculous...

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Originally posted by Alias

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Originally posted by matty
Yay! More toolbars for Christmas... just what I always wanted!!!

I know you guys need to make money but seriously this is getting ridiculous...

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they gotta pay for there software that makes Plus somehow matty but if you donmt  like it, your not forced to use it

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lol Matty, isn't it kind of dangerous to criticize your employer?

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Originally posted by Discrate
lol Matty, isn't it kind of dangerous to criticize your employer?

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Great news!

Does anyone actually use tool-bars nowadays?

I've always wanted a wide selection, and thanks to Plus! I've now got that!

I'm sorry, but any toolbar I ever come across gets uninstalled; even if it's not on my computer. I remember Windows 98 with IE (5?) and just having toolbars everywhere.

1. They take up valuable screen real estate (no matter how big your monitor is)
   
2. They usually either never get used or have useless functions
   
3. Most toolbars that at least used to be available came with every form of adware, spyware crap you can imagine

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Originally posted by Spunky
And why do we need so many? Incorporate everything into one, less bloat for the user.

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Since when do these apps work in Google Chrome?  Just went to have a look, and clicking add starts the download of an extension...  and it works. 

and i thought  we all loved our toolbars   .. well i dont think toolbars anymore is necessary thing for Browsers anymore, its like Chrome, all you have to do is type in the Address bar what your looking for and it'll automatically search in Google search for you,  ( i think Firefox4 wil be the same to eventually ) 

Blah, although I don't like the toolbars either, I don't see why people are complaining.. They make money off this and between that and the old sponsor I prefer that..

and yes them publishing it here sucks a little but it's not like it's worst than the useless 15 threads a day Chrissy makes about the world's most complicated and never seen before computer complication. just ignore it and move on.

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maybe they could make a Chrissy toolbar

but even if you install Plus5 and install the toolbar, you can always uninstall it soon afterwards, 

Toolbars? It isn't 2003.

I'm sure people are looking forward to another great feature from you, exit from Messenger and have 50 Messenger windows pop up asking if your sure you want to exit.

Are you guys smoking crack or something? In fact even on drugs these are all fucking shit.


WTF ARE YOU DOING YUNA?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by nimicitor
Toolbars? It isn't 2003.

I'm sure people are looking forward to another great feature from you, exit from Messenger and have 50 Messenger windows pop up asking if your sure you want to exit.

Are you guys smoking crack or something? In fact even on drugs these are all fucking shit.


WTF ARE YOU DOING YUNA?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Look at IE9, Google Chrome, or even the just released Opera 11. Notice something? Browsers are getting minimalistic design, yet you guys are developing more toolbars. Unbelievable.

Toolbars are, as nimicitor said, so 2003. It's now 2010, times have changed, web browses are becoming simpler, people don't want ridiculous toolbars clogging up their screens.

Stick to what works for you, Messenger Plus! Live for Windows Live Messenger. Leave all these money desperate toolbars and generic, advertising spammed websites out of the equation.

Messenger Plus! Live - money sources = Good bye Plus!
Do you want that?

If you don't like toolbars just don't make use of them, that's all.

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Originally posted by robert_dll
Messenger Plus! Live - money sources = Good bye Plus!
Do you want that?

If you don't like toolbars just don't make use of them, that's all.

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Originally posted by robert_dll
Messenger Plus! Live - money sources = Good bye Plus!
Do you want that?

If you don't like toolbars just don't make use of them, that's all.

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There is plenty of other ways to make money than spamming out crappy generic websites spammed with advertising and making toolbars.

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Originally posted by Chrissy

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Originally posted by Discrate

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Originally posted by robert_dll
Messenger Plus! Live - money sources = Good bye Plus!
Do you want that?

If you don't like toolbars just don't make use of them, that's all.

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There is plenty of other ways to make money than spamming out crappy generic websites spammed with advertising and making toolbars.

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2nd that

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Originally posted by Discrate
There is plenty of other ways to make money than spamming out crappy generic websites spammed with advertising and making toolbars.

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Originally posted by CookieRevised

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Originally posted by Chrissy

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Originally posted by Discrate

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Originally posted by robert_dll
Messenger Plus! Live - money sources = Good bye Plus!
Do you want that?

If you don't like toolbars just don't make use of them, that's all.

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There is plenty of other ways to make money than spamming out crappy generic websites spammed with advertising and making toolbars.

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Sure.... that's the oh-so-typical saying which we hear since decades. Yet I still need to see the very first WORKING suggested alternative from those people which would generate the same amount of revenue.

And quite frankly, imo, they who claim that you can generate the same amount of revenue without any ads what-so-ever, don't realy have a clue how bussiness models or even the internet works these days.

And even so, no matter what method they use, certain people will always complain about it, optional or not.

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tbh, I don't see any reason to complain here other than that the advertised apps (note: apps, NOT toolbars, learn to read people) haven't got something to do with Plus!/Messenger. But then again, so wasn't the previously used adware. I don't even see why they shouldn't advertise these 3 new toolbar apps on this forum, it would be stupid not to do it...

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Originally posted by robert_dll

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Originally posted by Discrate
There is plenty of other ways to make money than spamming out crappy generic websites spammed with advertising and making toolbars.

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Any good suggestion? Keep in mind that you need to make happy the complete userbase of MP!L

I'm not saying toolbars is the best way to follow, but they need a source of revenue. It's impossible to make everyone happy with the idea of an sponsor, do you remember the CiD sponsor? it was criticized a LOT, and remember it was optional, same with this.

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Originally posted by Discrate
No one is saying their shouldn't be ads. Nice assumption you made there.

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[...]with advertising[...]

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
Note the "they who claim". Ever heared of anticipated and general thoughts/comments? Learn to read and understand a text before replying.

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Hire Discrate and the world will end

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Originally posted by CookieRevised

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Originally posted by Discrate
No one is saying their shouldn't be ads. Nice assumption you made there.

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Not an assumption at all.
Note the "they who claim". Ever heared of anticipated and general thoughts/comments? Learn to read and understand a text before replying.
Moreover:

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Originally posted by Discrate
[...]with advertising[...]

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kthx.

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Originally posted by Chrissy

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
Note the "they who claim". Ever heared of anticipated and general thoughts/comments? Learn to read and understand a text before replying.

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So who said it then? Anyone in this topic?

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Discrate in 1 Corner and Cookie in the other.   as far as im concerned if ya dont like the directioon in what there doing with these toolbars, just dont install Plus  or install it an then remove the toolbars,

My objection to this is that they say the "apps" are to generate advertising revenue. I'm not saying people aren't going to use them because toolbars are generally shit... I'm saying people aren't going to install toolbars for the sake of a few MP!L buttons. People that do have the toolbar probably don't care. You can't be reaching as many users as you could by other methods.

It would make more sense to put some text-based adverts in the preferences windows etc. IMO

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It would make more sense to put some text-based adverts in the preferences windows etc. IMO

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