Suddenly, with various updates, MSN Messenger changes .. and for me it is not for the better.  People sometimes send me offlline messages via Messenger (i.e. when I am not on line) and I get them when I open Messenger.  That is no more.  Why don't I receive such messages?

I used to have a neatly categorized list of contacts on the opening page (should I say column?) when I opened Messenger.  Now I see who is on line in Messenger when I open my hotmail email but I do not have a distinct list of my Messenger contacts.

Showing whether I was on line, away, busy or invisbible used to be easy.  Now I never know who can see me on line and who can't.  Sometimes I have to show myself on line to the person/contact I wish to speak with before I can send text.  But only sometimes, other times it works whether or not I am appearing as on line or not.  Geesh!

I have told friends who are on my Yahoo and MSN contact lists, that I prefer to use Yahoo now.  But, I am not opposed to change, just to change for the worse.  Is there something I have to do to regain the convenience I used to enjoy with MSN Messenger?

i agree with your rants , Yahoo does have  atleast a  block feature in it,  whereas WLM doesnt anymore.  only good thing with 2011 is integrated Tab Windows.  plus i think Yahoo has far better File Transfers 

Consider third party Messenger clients.  The last time I rebuilt my Windows computer, I installed Pidgin instead.  It's not great.  File transfers don't work; custom emoticons don't work; I imagine voice/video doesn't, but I never used those anyway.  However, it is clean and functional, something the Microsoft's client hasn't been for years and is only getting worse for.  Trillian is another third party option for Windows.

Plus! added a lot of value to the official client, but I think it's getting to where even Plus! can't redeem a miserable piece of software Microsoft seems to be determined to turn into complete rubbish.

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Originally posted by Adeptus
Consider third party Messenger clients.  The last time I rebuilt my Windows computer, I installed Pidgin instead.  It's not great.  File transfers don't work; custom emoticons don't work; I imagine voice/video doesn't, but I never used those anyway.  However, it is clean and functional, something the Microsoft's client hasn't been for years and is only getting worse for.  Trillian is another third party option for Windows.

Plus! added a lot of value to the official client, but I think it's getting to where even Plus! can't redeem a miserable piece of software Microsoft seems to be determined to turn into complete rubbish.

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what happened to the guys who made the old messenger?? i think some really old guys made the new version... i physically got bored of using messenger 11

My hotmail or "live.com" list of contacts is not the same as my MSN Messenger list but I can no longer see just my MSN contacts in a separate list and to thereby leave them an IM to check when they open their MSN.  Yahoo is definitely better now.

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Originally posted by cubaduda
My hotmail or "live.com" list of contacts is not the same as my MSN Messenger list...

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Originally posted by cubaduda
... but I can no longer see just my MSN contacts in a separate list...

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