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Suggestion: "Launch Messenger without Plus!" option for Uninstaller by ahmetgns on 02-24-2011 at 12:51 PM
While I am reading some posts about Messenger Plus! causes problems with Messenger I noticed that most of the people say that they uninstalled Messenger Plus! to check if the problem is due to Plus!. Probably most people are still unaware of /PlusEnabled=0 key which can be used in commandline to launch Messenger without Messenger Plus! so they lose time by uninstalling then reinstalling Messenger Plus! to test their Messengers. Therefore an option in the Uninstaller wizard of Messenger Plus! for launching Messenger without Messenger Plus! that people who came to uninstall Plus! just for a test can see easily would be great.
RE: Suggestion: "Launch Messenger without Plus!" option for Uninstaller by Menthix on 02-24-2011 at 03:40 PM
quote:Heh, I wasn't even aware of that
Originally posted by ahmetgns
Probably most people are still unaware of /PlusEnabled=0
. Must have read about it at some point, but I usually end up moving/renaming the Plus! dll file in the Messenger folder.
RE: Suggestion: "Launch Messenger without Plus!" option for Uninstaller by CookieRevised on 02-24-2011 at 05:07 PM
quote:Althought that parameter exists since a long time, it is not as easy to use it as just quickly uninstalling Plus! though. That is: for the average user to:
Originally posted by ahmetgns
While I am reading some posts about Messenger Plus! causes problems with Messenger I noticed that most of the people say that they uninstalled Messenger Plus! to check if the problem is due to Plus!. Probably most people are still unaware of /PlusEnabled=0 key which can be used in commandline to launch Messenger without Messenger Plus! so they lose time by uninstalling then reinstalling Messenger Plus! to test their Messengers. Therefore an option in the Uninstaller wizard of Messenger Plus! for launching Messenger without Messenger Plus! that people who came to uninstall Plus! just for a test can see easily would be great.
- Open a DOS command prompt
- Navigating to the Windows Live Messenger folder using DOS commands
- Executing the msnmsgr.exe file with that parameter (and without making typos on the commands line!)
Moreover, AFAIK, there is still a difference between using that parameter and realy uninstalling Plus!. When you use that parameter, Plus! must still be loaded since otherwise it can't detect that parameter of course.
An option in the uninstaller as an alternative would be nice though
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RE: Suggestion: "Launch Messenger without Plus!" option for Uninstaller by Arcticwolfx on 02-24-2011 at 06:15 PM
quote:
Originally posted by ahmetgns
Probably most people are still unaware of /PlusEnabled=0 key
I didn't know that either! Then again, for the referring situations you provided, it's as cookie said, not a definite answer in situations where Messenger Plus!' stability is questionable.
quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
Althought that parameter exists since a long time, it is not as easy to use it as just quickly uninstalling Plus! though.
What about simple adding the parameter at the end of "Target Location" field on the Properties screen after right clicking Windows Live Messenger in the start menu?
That said; I'm sure the Messenger Plus! functionality can be turned on or off in the registry as well? In which case you could just create two .reg files for turning it on and off.
RE: Suggestion: "Launch Messenger without Plus!" option for Uninstaller by CookieRevised on 02-24-2011 at 06:59 PM
quote:Sure, but that requires changing 'saved settings'. I wouldn't recommend doing that and/or recommend telling that to people.
Originally posted by Arcticwolfx
What about simple adding the parameter at the end of "Target Location" field on the Properties screen after right clicking Windows Live Messenger in the start menu?
Not that it will cause bugs or whatever, but simply because people tend to forget things and thus some will most likely forget to change it back. And in reference to giving support: it would require more explaination and what not too. And the chance is much higher that the user makes typos and thus the whole thing not working anyways, or even worse: messenger not starting anymore (and then you get more posts from that user asking what to do next, etc, etc...)
They easiest thing to suggest as support, and also the easiest thing for the user to do, with the least chance of making typos and other errors, is still uninstalling imho.
quote:nope
Originally posted by Arcticwolfx
That said; I'm sure the Messenger Plus! functionality can be turned on or off in the registry as well?
RE: Suggestion: "Launch Messenger without Plus!" option for Uninstaller by ahmetgns on 02-27-2011 at 07:35 AM
quote:Well, you may be right but as MenthiX pointed
Originally posted by CookieRevised
Moreover, AFAIK, there is still a difference between using that parameter and realy uninstalling Plus!. When you use that parameter, Plus! must still be loaded since otherwise it can't detect that parameter of course.
quote:uninstaller of Messenger Plus! is a seperate program which I don't think interferes with WLM when it is run and that program can do the renaming of that dll then launch WLM then rename the dll back to its original name. Apart from if it can be done for Messenger Plus!, such an option would be good if it is added as a standard to all programs which are add-ons to some main programs.
Originally posted by Menthix
but I usually end up moving/renaming the Plus! dll file in the Messenger folder.