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Could someone make a good nice compatible plugin reloaded plugin? I have one but it usually freezes up MSN and I dont know any that is made for the current MSN Messenger and Messenger Plus! version. It be nice to have a new one with some options:
1) Run thru all plugins commands/config and those that give a error disable. Those that dont, stay
2) Disable all plugins
3) Disable and reload all plugins.
4) Enable disabled plugins

Those would be some of the nice features possible in this plugin. Thanks to anyone that will start working on it!

Now that I think of it "Plugin: Reloaded" would be a nice name too.

Someone could make it, but what's wrong with the existing reloaders?

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Originally posted by riahc4
I have one but it usually freezes up MSN and I dont know any that is made for the current MSN Messenger and Messenger Plus! version.

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When MSN Freezes after a plugin reload that's normally caused by a Plugin incorectly initalising the Messenger API AFAIK.  Also How exactly would a reloader pugin be made for the current MSN Messenger and Messenger Plus!  ?  The coding would be identical...

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Originally posted by Dempsey
Someone could make it, but what's wrong with the existing reloaders?

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They dont have the features I just came up with. Existing reloadeders are how old?
Thats why.

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Originally posted by Dempsey

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Originally posted by riahc4
I have one but it usually freezes up MSN and I dont know any that is made for the current MSN Messenger and Messenger Plus! version.

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When MSN Freezes after a plugin reload that's normally caused by a Plugin incorectly initalising the Messenger API AFAIK.  Also How exactly would a reloader pugin be made for the current MSN Messenger and Messenger Plus!  ?  The coding would be identical...

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The coding could be optimized and be searched for any faults.
Well that plugin incorrectly initalising the API, is the plugin reloader. It makes MSN freeze up completely.
A fresh newly coded plugin reloader for best current MSN Messenger/Messenger Plus! compatibility would be great.

(This is offtopic but can plugins (not neccesarily this one) be written in Pascal? I know its a very old language and weak/small/pointless but I just wanna know)

Well what you are requesting i s a plugin manager.. which Plus! already has...

Also current reloaders DO work with current versions of MSN and Plus!

Only problem with error trapping is that loading/unloading is performed by Plus! so it is virtually impossible for a plugin to error trap a Plus! operation, in order to take further action

Plus Patchou has implemented very thourough checks so when a plugin is at fault it will be disabled and not loaded next time msn starts / or plugins are loaded...

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Well what you are requesting i s a plugin manager.. which Plus! already has...

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Tell me where is the button or the "/" command to reload all plugins. Or to disable them all. Or enabled disabled ones but dont load loaded ones. Exactly. There is none.

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Also current reloaders DO work with current versions of MSN and Plus!

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They are buggy. They work but they are buggy.


Is it so wrong to have more that one plugin that does the same thing?

I suggest Patchou makes his own command for it, that way it will work allways

well TB's plugin isn't buggy at all
link http://shoutbox.menthix.net/attachment.php?pid=452058
command /xreload

And you can enable/disable plugins from Preferences > Plugins
tick and untick whatever yuo want...

if you are requesting for a command / then i think there isn't one, but it still can be done, through preferences

My plugin reloader, and the default plugin reloaders are not buggy.
If MSN Messenger crashes, it's because one of the plugins does not clean up properly while unloading, and for example leaves some hooks in MSN pointing to no-longer existing objects in memory...

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Originally posted by TazDevil
well TB's plugin isn't buggy at all
link http://shoutbox.menthix.net/attachment.php?pid=452058
command /xreload

And you can enable/disable plugins from Preferences > Plugins
tick and untick whatever yuo want...

if you are requesting for a command / then i think there isn't one, but it still can be done, through preferences

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My plugin reloader, and the default plugin reloaders are not buggy.
If MSN Messenger crashes, it's because one of the plugins does not clean up properly while unloading, and for example leaves some hooks in MSN pointing to no-longer existing objects in memory...

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Ok and can't that be resolved by writing a new plugin reloaded that avoids/trys to fix those issues?
Just tried to reload with your Reloader and MSN has freezed up.

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Originally posted by riahc4

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Originally posted by TazDevil
well TB's plugin isn't buggy at all
link http://shoutbox.menthix.net/attachment.php?pid=452058
command /xreload

And you can enable/disable plugins from Preferences > Plugins
tick and untick whatever yuo want...

if you are requesting for a command / then i think there isn't one, but it still can be done, through preferences

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Ok and can't that be resolved by writing a new plugin reloaded that avoids/trys to fix those issues?
Just tried to reload with your Reloader and MSN has freezed up.

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No, if that'd be possible, then microsoft would pay millions of dollars  for it, as it would prevent almost every crash out there