Shoutbox

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Originally posted by CookieRevised

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Originally posted by Jieff
I agree about the MP!L logo, but changing it was a legal requirement.

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Major bummer....

Is that the same reason why the "Live" tag has been removed too?

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Actually no, this is not the reason why you don't see the Live tag. We wanted to make the product more generic. We would like to bring the Plus! concept to other platforms. The Live tag is closely associated with WLM.

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Originally posted by robert_dll

It is normal to see this kind of complaints and the feeling that Patchou isn't in charge anymore because of many drastic changes, but I'm sure that listening to us (ths users) there will be a win for both sides.

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I hear you

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Originally posted by Jieff
Actually no, this is not the reason why you don't see the Live tag. We wanted to make the product more generic. We would like to bring the Plus! concept to other platforms.

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AKA ad-filled games and sports websites that just have content licensed from other sites.

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Originally posted by Jieff
Funny... and who do you think I work for? (Just a hint .... Patchou).

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Just because you work for someone, doesn't mean they tell you what to do:

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Originally posted by Patchou
those decisions aren't mine anymore.

I understand what you're saying and I suggest you (and anybody else feeling the same way) to email Yuna Software about it. They need user feedback to guide their decisions properly.

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Originally posted by MeEtc

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Originally posted by Jieff
Funny... and who do you think I work for? (Just a hint .... Patchou).

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Just because you work for someone, doesn't mean they tell you what to do:

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Originally posted by Patchou
those decisions aren't mine anymore.

I understand what you're saying and I suggest you (and anybody else feeling the same way) to email Yuna Software about it. They need user feedback to guide their decisions properly.

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Those are completely two different hings...

Patchou replied with that more in the context of decisions like that 'Plus! concept' (aka Plus!Games etc) and toolbars and stuff related to the community (like the liaison). Aka the name of Plus! and the bigger picture. Patchou does not have all the influence on that anymore. This is what Yuna Software stands for.

What Jieff replied to was in the context of Messenger Plus!, the software itself, which Patchou does have a big influence on. It was a reply to Spunky on why the treelist looks the way it looks at the moment and why the treelist was chosen in the first place. This is what Kimahri Software stands for.

As a more understandable analogy: the lead programmers and program managers of Messenger have a massive influence into what Messenger will be like, feature-wise, look, etc. But they have little to no end-decisions into what the Windows Live concept should bring.

What people forget is that Plus! isn't just the software anymore and stuff is 'split' out into different departments.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, Jieff....

New Logo?
New Website Design

End of Jan.
New Plus! Settings Design

to be fair i am visually impaired so i can't really judge by the provided screenshots. i will give my honest opinion once the site and the software are finally released. however all i will say regarding the look of new plus is this... skinning weilds the power to skin plus too, if you don't like the design reskin it there are plenty of skinners out there if they too don't like the look of plus then i am sure they will put in that extra effort to reskin plus in there creations in order to attract more users to download there skins.

simples.

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Originally posted by CookieRevised

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Originally posted by MeEtc

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Originally posted by Jieff
Funny... and who do you think I work for? (Just a hint .... Patchou).

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Just because you work for someone, doesn't mean they tell you what to do:

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Originally posted by Patchou
those decisions aren't mine anymore.

I understand what you're saying and I suggest you (and anybody else feeling the same way) to email Yuna Software about it. They need user feedback to guide their decisions properly.

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Those are completely two different hings...

Patchou replied with that more in the context of decisions like that 'Plus! concept' (aka Plus!Games etc) and toolbars and stuff related to the community (like the liaison). Aka the name of Plus! and the bigger picture. Patchou does not have all the influence on that anymore. This is what Yuna Software stands for.

What Jieff replied to was in the context of Messenger Plus!, the software itself, which Patchou does have a big influence on. It was a reply to Spunky on why the treelist looks the way it looks at the moment and why the treelist was chosen in the first place. This is what Kimahri Software stands for.

As a more understandable analogy: the lead programmers and program managers of Messenger have a massive influence into what Messenger will be like, feature-wise, look, etc. But they have little to no end-decisions into what the Windows Live concept should bring.

What people forget is that Plus! isn't just the software anymore and stuff is 'split' out into different departments.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, Jieff....

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Yep, that sounds about right.

Well, most of the stuff has been already said, but I'd like to add that I agree with most of the negative stuff that has been said. Terrible new webpage design and colors, and the direction the software is taking... online account for what? Did I read that right, you want us to store our chat logs online? Yeah, sure!

Oh, and the newstitle is terribly misleading... hello?

Come on, we know you can do better! Well, you better do, otherwise I know many, many people who will soon or late stop using that software... me being one of them...

Where can I download the beta version ???

If Yuna's vision is so focussed on the community, maybe it would have been a good idea to let the community vote on the website design...
Or even more drastic let the community design it, I think a lot of users could have done better (me not being one of them...)
The community really doesn't seem to like the new site...

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Originally posted by x4x
Where can I download the beta version ???

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You cannot download the beta version. Only beta testers can.