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Originally posted by bach_m
the thing is, most ppl here are either not american or yournger than 18 (WDZ can vote. who else?)

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Yeah, I could vote if I wanted to, but even after watching all the debates (ok, I fell asleep during the first one ) I can't decide who to vote for. Neither candidate is a good choice, IMO. Like the image I posted above says: whoever wins, we lose.

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Originally posted by bach_m
While i in no way support bush(althoug it doesn't matter), Farenheit 9/11 is propaganda, plain and simple. and Moore is good at it.

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Yeah, I agree. That movie is a crockumentary.

Yeah, neither candidate is good, but I don't think Kerry can run this country. One can notice that by simply hearing his two-sided stand.

Kerry all the way i hate bush the worl is better off without him president

I"m not american either but yeah if i had to

i would vote for Kerry

It is very striking, but logic, that most non-US people would vote for Kerry. And that says a lot about Bush!

Why logic? As an outsider you will actual see what is going on in the world (eg: Iraq). It is sad to say, but most Americans don't see the things we (outsiders) see and thus don't see the things that Bush screws up in a international way. It is sad to bring it up, but most US people don't see/know that Americans die every day by numbers in Iraq. This isn't propaganda, but pure facts as shown on almost every big newschannel in almost every country outside the US. The same goes for the 9/11 issues, etc...

On an international level, Bush has to go, plain and simple.

But, Kerry? Well, people are right in saying that he's all words and no doings. Of course no doings, he hasn't been president yet. The only thing he could do is voting on laws and stuff. He has yet to proof himself. Now, the things I hear about him (on the news, etc.) aren't all good either though, but way better then Bush's.....

Demandred, as for Kerry having president Clinton behind him. What's wrong with that???? Almost every (if not all, Bush including) president candidates have previous presidents backing them up.

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Originally posted by ZrednaZ
Well, for starters he brought the country into a huge deficit and lost plenty o' jobs...

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what the hell?  America was already in deficit and lossing jobs WAY before bush came into office.  America started lossing jobs alot right around when bust got into office, and since its impossible for any of his policies to have that quick of an effect on the country, that is not a good reason at all to vote against Bush

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Originally posted by bach_m
While i in no way support bush(althoug it doesn't matter), Farenheit 9/11 is propaganda, plain and simple. and Moore is good at it.  U kno that Breif History of the USA, shown right after the interview with SouthPark creators Matt Stone and Trey Parker? i bet you think they made that for him, right? i mean, it WAS their style.

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I agree...

Well I have researched all the canidates and I have decided to vote Bush.  I'm not really in favor of killing babies and I do think he has handled the situations that have pressed our country pretty good. 

A vote for kerry is a vote for ABORTION

A vote for kerry is a vote for EMBRYONIC STEM CELL RESEARCH

A vote for kerry is a vote for SAME SEX MARRIAGES

A vote for kerry is a vote for EUTHANASIA

I'm not exactly for Bush, but Nader's chances are slim to none

Why Kerry is going to win: For the last 16 presidential elections, the  Washington D.C. Redskins (NFL Team) have played the week before the polls opened. If the 'Skins win, the president wins, if they lose, the opposing party wins. The 'Skins lost today. This has been true for the last 16 elections.


On a more serious note,

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Originally posted by atownjoe
A vote for kerry is a vote for EMBRYONIC STEM CELL RESEARCH

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Fine with me.

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Originally posted by atownjoe
A vote for kerry is a vote for SAME SEX MARRIAGES

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Fine with me, give me one decent and non religious reason.

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Originally posted by atownjoe
A vote for kerry is a vote for EUTHANASIA

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Fine with me too.


(I'd reply on the abortion topic but I don't want to start a huge argument similar to the one we had on IRC, and I'd recommend none of you start about it either.)

Embryonic Stem Cell Research is practically the same as Abortion, creating life then destroying it.. plus it has brought about no success as of yet because the stem cells in embryos are so diverse

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Originally posted by Ddunk
Why Kerry is going to win: For the last 16 presidential elections, the  Washington D.C. Redskins (NFL Team) have played the week before the polls opened. If the 'Skins win, the president wins, if they lose, the opposing party wins. The 'Skins lost today. This has been true for the last 16 elections.

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very interesting... but i have a feeling that bush is going to win anyway >.<"