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I have found out why I haven't been getting any flash on the plus! website and getting the message: Your Current Security Settings Do Not Allow This File To Be Downloaded when I try to download it.

IE-Spyad has put a block on the plus! website because plus! has adware in it. i have emailed the guy who maintains the list and he has replied. This is the email:

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Aaron:

You wrote:


>> Hi. I am writing to ask why you have put www.msgplus.net on your
>> IE-Spyad. For months the flash on that website did not work. As with the
>> downloading of Messenger Plus!
>>
>> I recently uninstalled IE-Spyad and found it was the culprit. Why have
>> you added this site to your list? Plus! does have adware in it. But it
>> is a very harmless one compared to others. And it is optional. Have a
>> look at this tutorial
>> <http://www.msgplus.net/help_tutorials.php?tut=install-uninstall> and
>> you can see what I mean.
>>
>> Can you please remove Plus! from your list. I'll be awaiting your reply.


No. At this time, that domain will not be removed. If you want to use that
domain, then you're welcome to manually remove the domain yourself from the
Restricted sites list after installing IE-SPYAD.

Why? Someone else asked me about the msgplus.net listing a few weeks ago.
This was my reply, after looking into Messenger Plus:

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OK, I've taken a look at the MessengerPlus application and the installation
process that it uses. You're right that it does notify the user that a
"sponsor program" will be installed unless the user elects not to install
it. That's only half the story, though.

This is no ordinary adware program: it's C2 Media's Lop.com, one of the
nastiest adware/spyware programs on the Net. Moreover, the notice/disclosure
offered during the MessengerPlus installation is completely inadequate and
arguably even deceptive. It describes the "sponsor program" as a kind of
search acceleration program, which is a meaningless description if there
ever was one.

Although the installation screen does mention advertisements and the search
bar, it neglects to mention the browser hijack (of both IE and Mozilla!) and
the fact that the program will have a significant impact on system
performance. It also neglects to mention the significant data collection and
transmission, or any of the other potentially objectionable terms of the C2
EULA. The addition of the C2 EULA in the next installation screen doesn't
make things any better, because sticking a 3100 word EULA in front of users
isn't good notice/disclosure, esp. in the narrow box that it appears.

The bottom line is that most users will have no idea of what they're getting
into by consenting to the installation of the "sponsor program," and that's
the fault of the MessengerPlus installation process.

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If anything has changed from when I tested a few weeks ago, please let me
know.

Regards,

Eric L. Howes

This post was edited on 06-06-2005 at 09:48 AM by linx05.
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RE: IE-Spyad blocks Plus! website
You should point out to him that it's not the full LOP.com package at all.  In my view it's far from malicious since it's completely removable and not that harmful anyway.
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I said it was very harmless compared to the other ones. Maybe I should have explained it more.
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Go do that.

Is the guy who wrote that part of a company, or just making that program himself?
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Making the program himself. You can check it out for yourself here: https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/ehowes/www/resource.htm
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It seems he doesn't want to be contacted: there's no contact info on that page.
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It seems he doesn't want to be contacted: there's no contact info on that page.
Go right to the bottom and click on 'Home [Frames]'. His email will be in the frame as a picture.
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Pfff... what a bunch of crap. Oh well, if he wants to be contacted by his users every day for the rest of the year, so be it. I can't fight that kind of "arguments".
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I've given up on his 'program' (what can you call it?). I've uninstalled it and now am only relying on Spybot and Spyware Blaster for bad sites.
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Best idea you could have ever done is get rid of that....I've nver even heared of that...and if you install something but it won't let you install whatever you want then wtf is that about?
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