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RE: Intresting fact about Open/Close convo notifier....
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Originally posted by LittleK
As you all know, open convo notifier isnt 100% reliable because of Microsoft "clicks" to retrieve your DP...

But alas, to figure out a geniune "click" from a microsoft one, do this:

When you get a pop up saying someones opened your convo, click it to open theres too.

Leave it open, but minimize it

Usually, if a person hasnt spoke in the convo, it most likley means its a microsoft click. BUT, after around 2 minutes, if it says the person has left the convo before theyve spoke, for me it means its a geniune click and theyve closed the box again. If nothing happens and the convo stays open, theyve either opened it and left it, or its a microsoft click.. The way to distinguish the two is simple: If youve spoke to the person earlier in the day, its a geniune click because microsoft already has the DP's. If you havent spoke to them yet, its a microsoft click.

Now it all seems a little jumbled up i know, and probably wrong because of many things
(they could just leave the convo open, but i dont know anyone who does that...)
but it could be looked into and hey i might be right :P

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Old news. :P
What i do is if i see a pop up i open the window and see if it says that the person is typing a msg. It works :cheesy:
Its not special cause everyone has it now :sad:
So if "Xyz" opens a convo window and i open it to see if hes typing then he sees that i see him opening :cry:
It should ignore it when i have opned by clicking the popup but i dont think thats possible :P
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09-01-2005 05:52 PM
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RE: Intresting fact about Open/Close convo notifier....
the Open notifier is also working on the old version i mean windows messenger 4.6.

But how ? isn't supposed to use the DP download, or i'm wrong?
09-01-2005 06:30 PM
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RE: Intresting fact about Open/Close convo notifier....
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I guess it is pointless, but it cant be that pointless if people make the program, its common sence goddamn it!

AOL was invented, it's pointless and useless. If you're gonna justify ANYTHING made isn't pointless, you should make sense of the existence of life itself.


"i want to see who opens my window and doesn't talk" Who cares? If he/she doesn't talk THEN HE OR SHE DOESN'T WANT TO TALK.

You can't compare this to someone prank-calling you on the phone, because the phone rings and you have to pick it up so it can stop ringing AND you expect someone with a mildly-interesting conversation on the other end.

By opening a window you don't bother anyone, you don't go tell ing them "HEY I OPENED YOUR WINDOW, CHECK IT OUT, CLICK ME CLICK ME" and then not say anything. You must be one of those people that if they see an ant, is instantly intriguied to examine and analyze it, even if it's not doing anything. Hell it could be taking a dump (don't know if they can) and you're making up some dumb story about the ant going to its friends and hanging out.
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RE: Intresting fact about Open/Close convo notifier....
where can i get me one of these :cheesy: , no seriously :)

i had it a while ago but then i lost my HDD and i didnt bother downloading again. Is it in stuffplug?

i found it very interesting, tho nothing happened it was still good to know if someone wants to talk to you or not, its a great little tool :)
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09-05-2005 03:50 AM
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RE: Intresting fact about Open/Close convo notifier....
SikStyles, you have 570 posts, been here for 8 months and are Senior Member. Don't tell me you don't know how to search the forum?

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SikStyles, you have 570 posts, been here for 8 months and are Senior Member. Don't tell me you don't know how to search the forum?

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im sorry for my lazyness, i usually search but not much :/
anyway thanks for the link :)
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09-05-2005 01:50 PM
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Ok, here's a definate use for the close function: say if you open a window and send a message, if they close it without a reply, they're definately ignoring you, whereas if they don't they just aren't there.
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Ok, here's a definate use for the close function: say if you open a window and send a message, if they close it without a reply, they're definately ignoring you, whereas if they don't they just aren't there.
wrong... why are they defenatly ignoring you in that case you think? It might well be they:
1) accidently closed it
2) understood the statement/question, whatever, but didn't need a reply
3) couldn't reply at that time
4) etc... etc...

It ONLY _could_ mean they are not there. That's all...

This is exactly one of the reasons why there is no such thing as a closed notifier in MSN Messenger. People would simply come to wrong conclussions and misinterpet such notices...

Do not jump to conclussions like that because they are in almost all cases wrong...

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10-22-2005 06:59 PM
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RE: Intresting fact about Open/Close convo notifier....
Ok, well in the case that your message doesn't need a reply then I think it's true. If they accidently close the window, then they'd probably reopen it within a few seconds and if they couldn't reply at the time, then surely they'd say "brb" or something.
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RE: Intresting fact about Open/Close convo notifier....
lol, no....

You're again jumping to conclussions though...

- If I accidently close a window, I'm not going to bother again to reopen it just for the sake of it.
- People don't always say "brb" when they can't reply at that time (eg: parents comming in).

Do NOT come up with your own conclussions of why you got a window closed notification.

It doesn't mean anything more than: "the chat window is closed". period!!! No "buts", no "because's", no nothing.... Just plain simple: "The chat window is closed."

Absolutely nothing more than that!

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