Shoutbox

Hi,

My name is Ashod and I am the developer of WigiWigi ( the world's fastest video phone ) ( http://www.wigiwigi.com ), and am looking for
a plugin developer. I am willing to pay generously for a suitable
developer to help in making WigiWigi accessable via MSN.

Please email me at

ashod AT apakian DOT com

or send me a PM

Thankyou
Ashod Apakian
wigiwigi

technicly you're advertising which isn't allowed on these forums

otherwise, there are many plug-in developers here so you won't have any trouble finding them (especially for $$$ )

It might be advertising, but Im not selling anything, Im
looking to buy someone's time and expertise.

Yeah, I guess, the offer to pay good $$$ might be
an incentive to leave this message on.

ps. Our beta site is a purely a forum, so I know where
your coming from .

here are a couple of recent articles in skypejournal
about what I am working on, just so you know
this project is legit.

http://www.skypejournal.com/blog/archives/2005/09...et_please_vi_1.php

http://www.skypejournal.com/blog/archives/2005/10/the_ultimate_vi.php

I might be able to do it. What exactly do you want us to do?

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Originally posted by ashod
My name is Ashod and I am the developer of WigiWigi ( the world's fastest video phone ) ( http://www.wigiwigi.com ), and am looking for
a plugin developer. I am willing to pay generously for a suitable
developer to help in making WigiWigi accessable via MSN.

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From what I've read from WigiWigi, you are looking for a way to add it to MSN Messenger directly, that is, without the need of anything else.

A plugin (and this forum section) is directed towards Messenger Plus!. In other words, a plugin always requires Messenger Plus! to be installed too (and in most such cases on both sides). For WigiWigi this would mean:
1) MSN Messenger installed
2) Messenger Plus! installed
3) The plugin installed
4) WigiWigi installed

I might be wrong in this, but I guess this is not exactly what you're looking for. Thus, I think you actually want to make WigiWigi compatiable with MSN Messenger so that you only have:
1) MSN Messenger installed
2) WigiWigi installed

This would also be the preference, IMHO, for such an addon so you don't need to have many stuff installed and running in order to be able to use WigiWigi.

In short, you want to make WigiWigi into an addon for MSN Messenger (and thus not dependable on another addon -Messenger Plus!- and a plugin for that addon -the plugin-).

Correct me if I'm wrong...

(PS: and if I'm correct, this is in the wrong section of the forum as this section is only for plugins for Messenger Plus!)

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Originally posted by Itsme-HcK
I might be able to do it. What exactly do you want us to do?

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Without judging your skills, this would require serious advanced programming (and in C++ most likely) and there aren't much people on this forum who could pull it off in a decent way. But if you're up to it, by all means go for it

That's an interesting question.

Does an API or SDK exist for use without the need
for MsgPlus ?

I understand their are many articles on microsoft's
protocol, but this is not what I am refering to.. Does
Microsoft allow a way for plugins to be added to
Msn standard.

If not , this is not really a problem, as it wouldnt be
a problem to get people to download Messenger Plus
first.. Assuming Messenger Plus is compatible with previous
and future versions of Messenger..

I am not completely certain of the MsgPlus architecture,
and at what level it hooks/controls/manipluates
Messenger..

Ashod

Messenger Plus! provides developpers with some functions they can use in plugins. But these functions are rather limited and pointed towards stuff for Messenger Plus! itself (showing a toast, parsing commands, etc). Though, it also exposes the Messenger object to the developper which can be used for more advanced things or things pointed towards Messenger directly.

But all this can also be done without Messenger Plus! if you know how. What you require is a way to hook Messenger, subclass stuff, etc. All advanced stuff, but not impossible.

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MSN Messenger itself does provide some APIs (but a bit limited) in the form of the API of Windows Messenger, the Activity API (official forum) and there is also the Active Accessibility API which can be used for some stuff.

Other info can be found here (on MSNFanatic):
introduction to messenger api type library
introduction to msgrobject
MSN Messenger Programming

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What you need (if you want to do the same as with the other IMs) is a way to hook a conversation window and trap the triple pressing of the CTRL key. Together with this, I assume, you need the IP address of the contact (which can be a problem) so you can parse that to your WigiWigi app and handle it from there.

Both main problems, the convo hooking and the IP getting, have been shown to be somewhat problematic without using some dodgy/crappy workarounds. This said, if you do go along with a plugin for Messenger Plus!, the first problem can be solved by using commands instead of tripple pressing CTRL. And the IP getting is rather easy to solve as you obvioulsy can send your own IP to your contact (and thus to his plugin).

But as said, it requires people to have also both Messenger Plus! and the plugin installed (and on both sides; you aswell as your contact).

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Your best shot is to wait for someone who knows how to deal with all this, is an advanced programmer and has experience in this sort of stuff. In the mean while you can delve a bit deeper in the above links as many stuff can be found out with some research (I only posted some basic links out of many). Also, you could take a look at the Messenger Plus! Plugin SDK to know what it does or what its capabilities are (here). And don't forget to search around in the plugin section of this forum

I'm currently extremely busy for school, exams and such
But if you can wait till after that, I might want to give it a shot. I'm quite confident I could write something like this.
How much "payment" are we talking about though ?