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Originally posted by Voldemort
Yes... they are pretty nice... but most of us don't recognize those flags....

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Well, that's your problem, not the flag's.

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Originally posted by Chris4
Yes! Don't get rid of the England flag .

It's fine how it is .

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Exactly my point.

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Originally posted by saralk

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Originally posted by Dr4g0n
They are part of the United Kingdom, just as The Netherlands is a part of the European Union.

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That is a bad comparison, since United Kingdom is part of the EU too.

Also, when people say country, usually they mean soverign state, and neither Wales, nor Scotland are soverign states.

So United Kingdom should be the only flag.

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Actually, comparing it to Europe isn't that bad. It is actually a very close comparisson...

As you said also (which I also agree upon):

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Originally posted by saralk
There should be some common sense applied to everything. Yes technically Wales, Scotland, England and NI are all countries. Just in the same way East germany still exists.

Having Wales, Scotland, England and NI as selectable countries sets a precident. What if members of ETA want the Basque Country as a selectable flag, or someone who has a passport to Sealand wants a flag.

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Either you have all the flags like Wales, Scotland, etc, or either you don't.

If the flag of the United Kingdom is selectable so should the European flag, the flag of the former Yugoslavia and the Soviet Union for example. Heck, then I demand the flag for the Benelux too...

Wales, Scotland, etc are constituent countries which make up the United Kingdom. Just as many other countries make up the European Union, the Sovjet Union and the former Yugoslavia. Just as Luxembourg, the Netherlands and Belgium make up the Benelux. And there are probably more....

So, either you have the flags of Wales, etc, and the UK and Europe, Benelux, etc... or either you don't and that would mean you also don't have a flag for the United Kingdom...oh-oooh!!!.

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Originally posted by Adeptus
...adding them to please the UK citizens here is silly and confusing for others....

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Best to stick to an international list or something... ISO whatever... those who don't like it can write a letter to the international standard commissions.... What I mean is, it is indeed wrong to treat some people differently than others (because they are nationalistic?), there should be a fixed standard.


(Maybe I am pulling this too far, but still... you all know how much I love standards )

Uhhhh.. why does everyone have to go against having the English, Wales, etc. flags?

Like WDZ said, that's how the flags came, there's no point in changing it to someone's likeliness. Just leave it how it is.

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
So, either you have the flags of Wales, etc, and the UK and Europe, etc... or either you don't and that would mean you also don't have a flag for the United Kingdom!!!.

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Actually, if I understood correctly I think Cookie is suggesting removing the United Kingdom flag rather than the individual constituents.

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Originally posted by Chris4
Uhhhh.. why does everyone have to go against having the English, Wales, etc. flags?

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We don't have something against it. We have something against adding those and not others, or vice versa...

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Originally posted by Chris4
Like WDZ said, that's how the flags came, there's no point in changing it to someone's likeliness. Just leave it how it is.

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ermm... "how those flags came"? Those flags are made and added by some people who feel nationalistic (no offense though). It is far from THE official list of flags.

EDIT: famfamfam.com is owned and created by someone living in the UK, so adding those Wales, Scotland, etc flags is understandable and makes sense. Though it is not according to the standard.

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Originally posted by Eljay

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Originally posted by Chris4
So, either you have the flags of Wales, etc, and the UK and Europe, etc... or either you don't and that would mean you also don't have a flag for the United Kingdom!!!.

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Actually, if I understood correctly I think Cookie is suggesting removing the United Kingdom flag rather than the individual constituents.

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yep and actually no...

What I mean is that there is currently no clear distinction as to what to add and what not, it has something (but not all) from both; a mismatch if you like.

Personally and to satisfy everybody, you could leave everything like it is, but that should also mean the Europian flag etc should be added.

The point is there should be a standard. Not let's put in 1, 2, 3 but not a, b and c. So you end up with half the alphabet together with half the numbers.

Either you have just the numbers, or either just the alphabet, or either both (which I prefer)... but not just a part of both.

eg: use ISO 3166-1....
ps: the famfamfam.com list does NOT follow that standard, despite what their website says.

PS2: If it is just 'Netherlands' without the 'The' according to the ISO standard then so be it too, imho... didn't knew that btw, always thought it was with 'The'...

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I know many people will roll their eyes reading all this. 'Cause why discussion something like this? And they probably are right... But still... This is the very same discussion as to why adding translation X but not translation Y to Plus!. With the major big difference that this flag feature is brand new and now it is the time to settle this, not after it is 3 years old... So I think a proper decision should be made now (and a proper standard should be followed instead of some loose random list), or such discussions like these will pop up later on again.

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Originally posted by Chris4
why does everyone have to go against having the English, Wales, etc. flags?

Like WDZ said, that's how the flags came, there's no point in changing it to someone's likeliness.

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The European flag also came with the package, WDZ did remove that one... so it's ot like we aren't changing it to someone's likeliness already.

Agreed with Cookie, pick a standard an stick with it, avoids cunfusion and people getting mad for whatever reason.

now you're going to fight about the flags showed and not "adding the flags"? ...

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Originally posted by MenthiX

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Originally posted by Chris4
why does everyone have to go against having the English, Wales, etc. flags?

Like WDZ said, that's how the flags came, there's no point in changing it to someone's likeliness.

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The European flag also came with the package, WDZ did remove that one... so it's ot like we aren't changing it to someone's likeliness already.

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Fair enough :-\

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Originally posted by q25
now you're going to fight about the flags showed and not "adding the flags"?

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It's not fighting, just a discussion... Don't let the words scare you .

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Originally posted by MenthiX

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Originally posted by q25
now you're going to fight about the flags showed and not "adding the flags"?

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It's not fighting, just a discussion... Don't let the words scare you .

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oh no the words ..

No, but seriously, I just don't see the point in this "discussion". Why do you even care about the other flags, Cookie? Don't you've your Belgium one.. geeze.