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Alright guys. I have a feeling that I may get flamed, abused and everything else in between but it has to be said (and yes there are going to be caps at some point so apologises now)

I am COMPLETELY offended that members of this forum, from the UK are EXPECTED to use the union jack. What about those who do not consider that flag to be theirs? For me, I consider the union jack to be BRITISH, and I for one am not British (despite it saying it on my passport)(no offence to anyone who does consider themselves British btw). I am proud to be Scottish and therefore, EXPECT to be able to show this by using the Saltire, as that is the flag of MY COUNTRY but this is not possible as it is not available...

My opinion is that it should have been considered that there would be people who were offended by this, and that the option to show either the Union Jack or THEIR RESPECTIVE COUNTRY should have been made available. Everyone else is able to show their, so why can't members from SCOTLAND, ENGLAND, IRELAND AND WALES?

The only monetary amount of Scottish money that isn't recognised anywhere else is the £1 note. It's only legal in scotland

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Originally posted by Vazza
For me, I consider the union jack to be BRITISH, and I for one am not British (despite it saying it on my passport)(no offence to anyone who does consider themselves British btw). I am proud to be Scottish and therefore, EXPECT to be able to show this by using the Saltire, as that is the flag of MY COUNTRY but this is not possible as it is not available...

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Agreed,  nice sum up there

there's a £1 note?! send me one!

i think you're very right in saying that vazza, it's only fair. i think its crap that  people from places like timor leste, who i doubt many people have heard of, get a flag, but we dont. whats up with that?

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Originally posted by Vazza
I for one am not British

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Originally posted by Vazza
(despite it saying it on my passport)

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you answered yourself...

i guess now it would be the perfect time to close this subject and end up the bitching from all sides...

And to add to that: see international standard ISO 3166 for countries.

(it is not that you consider your birthplace a country that it is an international reconized country! A real country is more than the inhabits calling it a country, no matter how proud they might be or how independant they might feel.)

I don't feel mexican, I feel Neolones, can I get my flag too, WDZ?

I don't care what the international standard ISO 3166 says. There are still four countries not being represented which have every right to be represented....

so basically, in order for scotland to be recognised, we'd have to be completely independant from everyone else?

You may take our flag, but you'll never take our PRIDE!

Quite frankly, this was a bad idea as you aren't able to please everyone. All the flags should have been included regardless of what any international standard has to say

I may not care either, but it's not up to me to decide and i'm not qualified to declare what's a country and what isn't.

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Originally posted by Vazza
I don't care what the international standard ISO 3166 says. There are still four countries not being represented which have every right to be represented....

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The point is that it sets a precident what if some member of ETA decided that they wanted a Baque flag. Or The Principality of Sealand, or The Confederate States of America.

Eventually there would be loads of flags that really shouldn't be there because they would all say "well if Scotland can have a flag, why can't I, Scotland's government is devolved, and in fact my country has more power then their country, it's not fair blah blah blah"

Just because this has turned into one big argument. Closing the thread.

Just to throw my two cents in. Comparing the US to the UK and how a mailing address is setup:

John Doe
1234 SE Main Street
Portland, Oregon 97214
United States of America

Note that Portland (City), Oregon (State) then Country listed below. Same thing goes for the UK:
Historical Search Room
H M General Register House
2 Princes Street
Edinburgh (City)
Scotland (Province, State, Whatever you want to call it)
United Kingdom (Country)
EH1 3YY

It's just broken down differently. If we are going to break down the UK, you might as well break down the US to the individual states which all have flags.

We'll just stick to the ISO standard for countries.