Shoutbox

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Originally posted by vaccination

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Originally posted by CookieRevised

But nobody claimed they would take files though.

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
aka, Chrome isn't going to see this laptop's HDD. Nooohooo way....

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...?

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errrr, meaning it isn't going to be installed here...

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Originally posted by vaccination
Anyway, I see no proof for any of your arguments? I'm not suggesting you should install it, I'm just letting other people know that it isn't some nazi data whoring application as you seem to think. And seeing as most of the lesser educated people would just take your word for it(you being seen as very knowledgeable), I want to make sure they know it's not the case.

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I thought I made it clear that the information I got comes from those articles linked by Sunshine, and other article and reviews I've read in the mean time... (but apparently it wasn't clear enough) since I already said several times I'm not going to install it myself, because of some massive security issues (and, yes, because of the tracking it apparently does, being able to turn it off or not).

And my thoughts about people so easly crying out at MS (and Plus!) for doing the same kind, but not saying one word about it when Google does it, still remains though.

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Originally posted by CookieRevised

Moreover, there are also very high security risks and big security holes in this current browser.

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thats why it's in beta so they can fix these things
i quite like it beats ff and the shit out of ie i do like my altoolbar in ie though

To be very honest, those security issues should have been fixed _before_ it went public. And they could have, since the very same stuff is already fixed in Safari, before Chrome went to public, which uses the exact same engine.

The reason I cry out so loud in this thread is _exactly_ because the 'lesser educated people', like vaccination calls them, do not know they will be vulnerable to such security issues and possible snooping.

Heck, I bet not many of you (incl. me) would have know about the security issues, Chrome's policy, the possible snooping, etc,  if it wasn't for Sunshine posting those links and some people actually reading those links and looking further into it then just the (very nice looking) surface....

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
errrr, meaning it isn't going to be installed here...

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Ah, thought you were talking about it looking at your files or something =p

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
I thought I made it clear that the information I got comes from those articles linked by Sunshine, and other article and reviews I've read in the mean time... (but apparently it wasn't clear enough)

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I feel some of those sites are quite ill-informed, as some of the comments suggest on them. And as I've already stated, no un-ordinary information is collected, even with everything enabled. Only the Unique ID thing, which I can't see being of any trouble itself(it's only used in updates and error logging?), however we'll see. Most of it's just the standard "quality improvement" stuff that MS uses a lot, as does many other companies.


I agree that the security holes should've been fixed already though, especially as it's down to the fact that Chrome is running on some outdated components(old Webkit/Java versions I believe the main hole's are down to).

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Originally posted by djdannyp
is it just me being silly or is there no "homepage" button

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i still like it, i think i prefer to one of the ppl ignorant of the security problems, because tbh i just couldn't give a shit, if Google are interested in all the boring stuff i do it's their time they're wasting reading it not mine

about the google policy, get over it, it a general policy that google uses on their apps, and was not intended to be there in the first place:
PC World Article about google amendig the license agreement

And it's a beta, it's only purpose it's to show off it's main features, not being bugless.

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Originally posted by Jarrod
i still like it, i think i prefer to one of the ppl ignorant of the security problems, because tbh i just couldn't give a shit, if Google are interested in all the boring stuff i do it's their time they're wasting reading it not mine

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The security issues don't have anything todo with the possible "snooping" (or whatever you wanna call it), those are two very different things.

The security issues are big holes in the software which allow attackers to plant and run viri like trojans (or whatever) on your PC, without you knowing about it, without any notice, warning or confirmation from you.

Unless you don't care about that either. In that case, I haven't said anything

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Originally posted by UnduTheGun
about the google policy, get over it, it a general policy that google uses on their apps, and was not intended to be there in the first place:
PC World Article about google amendig the license agreement

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That link describes exactly what I was saying before. A lot of stuff about Chrome is/was very questionable.

Those things are not things to simply "get over it". Those things need to be addressed and fixed and isn't just thin air or whatever.

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Originally posted by UnduTheGun
And it's a beta, it's only purpose it's to show off it's main features, not being bugless.

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Nobody will ever claim that the purpose of a beta version is to be bugfree (goes for any software), so that is just a stupid argument...

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
To be very honest, those security issues should have been fixed _before_ it went public. And they could have, since the very same stuff is already fixed in Safari, before Chrome went to public, which uses the exact same engine.

The reason I cry out so loud in this thread is _exactly_ because the 'lesser educated people', like vaccination calls them, do not know they will be vulnerable to such security issues and possible snooping.

Heck, I bet not many of you (incl. me) would have know about the security issues, Chrome's policy, the possible snooping, etc,  if it wasn't for Sunshine posting those links and some people actually reading those links and looking further into it then just the (very nice looking) surface....

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Why are you being such an idiot?

I'll give you the carpet-bombing flaw, but every other one of your points is just bullshit.

from this page:

"Your copy of Google Chrome includes one or more unique application numbers. These numbers and information about your installation of the browser (e.g., version number, language) will be sent to Google when you first install and use it and when Google Chrome automatically checks for updates. If you choose to send usage statistics and crash reports to Google, the browser will send us this information along with a unique application number as well."

Oh, wow, an anonymous application number is sent when you update or send a crash report. The world is ending! Google are going to hack your life using this number and steal your babies!

One new Chrome feature shows the six most popular pages when opening any new tab. Chrome gets these linkable thumbnails by taking "snapshots of most pages you visit (except for secure pages with 'https' Web addresses, such as some bank pages)." Well that one ought to catch lots of porn surfing teens, when a parent opens a Chrome tab.) Sure, browsers save images and other files in a Web cache. But these snapshots would make a tidy browsing history if mined by a third party.

OH WHAT?!? Chrome is storing images of my webpages locally on my computer and they're not being sent to Google?! How dare they! It's not like they're actually used for something.. oh wait, they are. They're used for a nice thumbnail feature to show your past 6 pages. That's so evil!

"If you use Google Chrome in incognito mode, it will not transmit any pre-existing cookies to sites that you visit. Sites may deposit new cookies on your machine while you are in incognito mode, however. These cookies will be temporarily stored and transmitted to sites while you remain in incognito mode. They will be deleted when you close the browser or return to normal browsing mode."

Do you know how the Internet works? If incognito mode didn't keep session cookies for the session then how is your porn-loving 50-year-old neighbour going to keep himself logged into his pay-for porn site while in incognito mode? Didn't think about that, did you?

Lastly, the EULA which had copy pasted parts from their other EULAs which has now been fixed. God, isn't Google just evil?

ffs people... All I did here was telling that this first Chrome beta isn't all "ooh and wow", but that there are some questionable things in it, _especially_ for those who don't know about the possible risks involved. Since when is it a crime to do that???? And since when does that give the green light to name calling???

So, I would appreciate it if you don't call me (or anyone else) stupid, ignorant or whatever else when I or anyone else dare to question stuff. For once read the stuff for what it was meant, don't put words in my mouth and maybe accept that some people do not follow the masses like mindless (or blinded by the pretty lights) sheep trying to fit in the group...




EDIT: Segosa, I highly suggest you reread what I exactly have said in this thread instead of putting things in my mouth or doing some name calling...

No, they follow like paranoid idiots who think that a randomly-generated number unique to your computer which is sent to a third-party during updates of their application is the end of the world.


EDIT: CooKiErEvIsED (if you're going to type my name with caps that don't exist, I'll do the same): I read everything you said, and I suggest you stop being so damn paranoid.