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Originally posted by Thor
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Originally posted by Menthix
Being a global admin on the site i can tell you I don't have access to any logs except my own. As for bigger picture (server admins / corporate), I agree these are things people are right to ask and should get a proper and detailed answer to. Preferably in the form of an updated privacy policy. Personally in addition to that I would still like to see encrypted storage as in the top of my post.
Although even when we do know information like this it still comes down to trust. Yes, Microsoft is a huge well-known company. So are Facebook and Google, still doesn't stop them from doing things users are shocked by.
I was replying to CookieRevised in the context of the admins on this forum doing anything to a user's profile, not in the context of accessing logs. Sorry about that, might've been an idea to be a bit more specific.
It doesn't matter if it is messing with profiles or accessing logs (or in this case PMs) for that matter. The point of the re-questions where that almost every service on the net you trust your data on, needs to be ... well... trusted.... Even if there are NDAs or EULAs in place it doesn't physically stop some people (like root admins) from doing the 'wrong' thing in many cases, not even if it is a 'well known company'. In the end, it always comes down to trust. And if you don't trust it, don't use it.
What I also want to point out, in a very strong way, is that I'm equaly 'concerned' about this matter too. I too think there should at least be a more visible EULA or something in place which the user must agree with or sign before being able to upload data like logs. At least more clear than a small link at the bottom of the website pages like it is now. But of course that still wouldn't prevent some server root admins or whatever to do the 'wrong' thing though. Again, it boils down to trust.
But the moaning of Chrissy just for the sake of moaning gets ridiculous. Look at the rest of his posts in regards to Yuna, it is nothing more than trying to find something new to bitch about, nothing more. Yes he stumbled upon a good and valid question/concern, but immediatly screwed it up with his "
they can bruteforce it anyway" comment. Showing again he posts that stuff just to moan and bitch imo. If anyone else would have asked the same question in regards to the online logs, I wouldn't have replied what I have replied to him.... Like I said, he makes it very hard for people to take him seriously.