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Originally posted by Squi
"software programs designed to damage or do other unwanted actions on a computer system"
The toolbars don't damage your computer (eventhough it might be hard to uninstall it in some cases). And the actions are not unwanted since you must tick the boxes in order to install it, which implies you want it to do what it does. So, no, not malware...
As I said, I can understand a mishap and clicking something by accident (it has happened in the past to me too, just like anyone else I assume), but that does not make something automatically malware, eventhough I also understand the frustration something like this might bring (I had my big share of hair pulling and shouting at the screen too - still do sometimes
- and calling certain stuff 'malware' because it doesn't do what I thought it did... to quite often realize the fault was my own (which doesn't help ease the pain of course)).
quote:
Originally posted by Cadavre
I can only hope signing up on this forum and go out my way to figure this out will not have my email spammed. Good day.
nope, you're not going to get spammed. Why would you?
quote:
Originally posted by Squi
If you are a volunteer, then who is behind Plus?
Yuna Software, as you can read on the
official website.
Some of the programmers are also members of these forums, you can find them here:
http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showteam.php
quote:
Originally posted by Squi
Wouldn't it benefit to get to the root of the problem? I understand you only know so much, and I thank you for responding, but this is alarming. I've worked with computers for years and I know what is what, and while I realize the possibility of a mistake, this shouldn't have happened to several different people.
Some people have reported the same stuff before, dating back to the very first versions years ago. Each time those people insisted that they didn't ticked the boxes. However, time and again it always came down to not reading the setup pages properly and/or (by accident) (un)ticking the wrong boxes. Each time something like this is reported it is done with a lot of (quite understandable) frustration, but that does not change anything to the fact that the choices were ultimatly done by the users themselfs though.
Know that there is neither some random thing build in which decides to ignore the preference of the user. All the known setups are programmed to not download and install the sponsor if the boxes are unticked, simple as that (and in programming terms it is indeed a simply check, nothing complicated). All setups are also tested for this, not only by the programmers but also by us and other people too. Nobody has ever reported such a problem where the unticked boxes are ignore before, ever. Believe me, if they were ignored, the people responsible for this will hear about it, loudly.
So, if something was installed it is not the fault of those particular known setups, I'm sorry. And again, I understand that it can be very frustrating to hear this if it has happened to you, but it is what it is.
So, despite there were sometimes different problems with (other) sponsors in the past, the "
installed by itself" problem like described in this thread was, in the end, always the fault of the user though.
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Anyways, as I said in previous post, if we could take a look at the offending setup it would be very helpfull. Having the exact URL where the setup is downloaded from is even better (note: I'm not talking about
http://www.msgplus.net/DownloadMsgPlus.aspx, but the URL it redirects to taken from the http headers). Otherwise there is no other way we can "
get to the root of the problem".
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