Shoutbox

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Originally posted by Sirby
This is what I did when I downloaded it!

That was the same link I clicked several weeks ago.  So I may be leading you in circles, which I am good at.

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Yeah, it doesn't show the real complete link. For that you need those HTTP headers.

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Originally posted by Sirby
I ran the Installer And unchecked those two boxes that popped up!


Then the software did it's download, Now, something else happened last time I installed it, and downloaded it...

Another box popped up showing a toolbar for Plus! Network.  it had 3 check boxes, and I unchecked them both, and I had to click another agreement window, and I did, because it was a messenger plus agreement (I read it carefully, after all, good practice) And It proceeded to download.

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The one showing in your screenshot here is the 'PN' version.
The one with the three checkboxes is the 'MIX' version (see Menthix' screenshot earlier in this thread) or the 'LK' version.
'PN', 'MIX' and 'LK' are the subdirectories from wich the setup is downloaded. It depends on your local what flavor you get

The only difference between them is the optional sponsor which gets downloaded when you leave the boxes checked. Messenger Plus! itself is bit by bit the same.

This said, I have installed all the versions of the setup again and again and again and again, in a fully sandboxed and fully controlled and monitored environment and have found nothing to be installed (sponsor-wise) when you uncheck the boxes. I tried with different IPs too, to no evail.

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Originally posted by Sirby
This time...well...now I have Plus, and no sign of the Plus! network showing up.

So it's possible I got a bad installer the last time?  Maybe?

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Always possible. But it is however very strange that this would only happen to a few people and never ever when we (official testers, translators and other oldtime users) test the stuff...

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Originally posted by Sirby
Also, scans did bring up traces of SweetIM...Could that have been laced into the messenger plus I previously downloaded?  I got it from the same link, and the same site as I just did now?

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That being installed (at one point) could indeed be the source of many troubles like Messenger Plus! not working (this is for sure) and even maybe other unwanted stuff like browser companions. SweetIM, and especially SmileyCentral, were/are much more intrusive than Messenger Plus!, and they hijack stuff too without things being optional.

But SweetIM or SmileyCentral don't have anything to do with Messenger Plus! (other than that they are all addons for Windows Live Messenger). They are made by completely different companies. They are even incompatible in many cases. So they are absolutely not bundled with eachother in any way.

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Originally posted by Sirby
I got it from the same link, and the same site as I just did now?

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With "it", do you mean you got SweetIM from http://www.msgplus.net ?? If so, that's extremely strange and then they (Yuna/Kimahri, responsible for Plus!) should fix that immediatly.


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Originally posted by Sirby
OFF TOPIC...well...sort of
I apologize for coming off so rude.

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No need to apologize though. No rudeness detected here, just direct language with some frustration in it. And I do understand the frustrations computers can bring (I broke my fair share of keyboards too). Also I post in a very direct manner too (as you can tell) so I know how it is to be misunderstood for being rude while it isn't your intent to do so.

PS: funny you said you learned to take criticism thanks to Graphic Design classes. A mate of mine is graphical designer and he simply totally hates the 'polite' and 'carefull' comments. He gets even mad when you are polite He always wants to hear the cold hard truth strait in his face when it comes down to his designs; and in my own company and organization we do the same thing, so....