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RE: Knowledge sharing - replies
Well guys, I read everything that was posted in this thread and it's sad to see that the same bunch of PatchouHaters from MSN Fanatic still insist on insulting me for no reason. It's also sad to see doggie continuing to say that the thread on MSN Fanatic was harmless non-offensive opinions... if that's true, the only explanation is that we don't speak the same english. I also like the comparison with Hitler that Ecko posted in his first reply, it shows how much mature this guy is and how you should consider the rest of his posts.

As for keeping the community informed, I agree and that's in fact what I did.. the last message I posted in the code-sharing thread is dated December 5th, which is just 6 days before Doggie posted his own thread saying that I abandoned everybody... 6 days! and in that post I clearly said what I said yesterday night which was:

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Well, I guess that whatever I'll do, it will please only half of you and I will get complains from the other half.... to be honest, that's not a very exciting idea to start working on a dll/tutorials knowing that it/they will get rejected by half of you from the start. I'm not sure I know what I want to do now... feel free to continue discussing the matter, in this thread or another, I keep reading your posts and the opinion of everybody is important.


After that, the thread didn't got many replies and I would probably have created a new thread with a poll or something like that. I didn't knew that to be someone nice, I had to release a 50 pages tutorial within the next 3 days of my original post.

I have nothing else much to say except that I thank you all for your support, it makes things more easy to me as I don't have to post a reply to all the previously posted bullshit... "we were just giving our opinion"... yeah right... and I also have to say that I feel bad for all of you when someone says that you "suck up" as soon as you defend my position against gigantic bullshit. Now you know how I feel when people are talking about companies like Microsoft when they have no idea what really is going on ;). But again, it shows how much developed these guys really are.

Oh, and also, to make things clear once and for all... it's not the first time I read something like that on MSN Fanatic:
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patchou could not have created Messenger Plus! without the help of certain individuals.

I never replied to that kind of thing before because I didn't want to sound mean, but enough is enough. Messenger Plus! has between 50,000 and 100,000 lines of code (I never counted precisely) that I wrote and rewrote, again and again, the past three years (yep, almost three years already!) and here is the exact count of lines that do not come from me:
  • Nicolas: 30 lines (POP protocol)
  • Ginge: 200 lines (zip library interface)
  • Will: 10 lines (assembly patch for the /nick command and COM internal access in Messenger 5/6)
Feel free to ask any of those people to confirm the numbers. Don't get me wrong, their contribution is appreciated a lot and that's why they get a special place in the about box of the software. I'll never take credits for work that is not mine and I don't have the assembly knowledge to create asm patches like the ones Will does. However, Plus! is not dependant of these patches to live as they target very specific features and the other 99.7% of the code has been written by my hands and my hands only (that includes full Messenger 6 compatibility if you're wondering about it). Say whatever you want about my software but don't deny that it is the result of my work, there's nothing more insulting than this kind of comment which basically mean "Patchou just gathered good code from people around him, added some additional useless features, a sponsor program, and then distributed it and got all the credits for it". Wether you like Messenger Plus! or not, this software is my creation.

That's all I had to say. It may sounds harsh but I got to defend myself from time to time. It's just too easy to say so much bullshit about things you don't know.

Patchou
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12-16-2003 08:17 PM
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