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RE: RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations for msgplus 3)
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Originally posted by CookieRevised
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Originally posted by Leif
The reason for the ampersands is to make it easier for e.g. disabled people who are unable to use the mouse. And it also makes handling Windows much quicker for us "normal" people who prefer the keyboard to the mouse.
I have some questions...
1. Why must those buttons not have ampersands?
2. Why are there ampersands on OK and Cancel buttons elsewhere? This is not normal in Windows! There is no need for that because OK = Enter and Cancel = Esc.
3. Apply normally has an ampersand in Windows. Why not here in Messenger Plus!?
4. Default and Backup buttons? Can't find them! Where?
1) Because those button are used in every window of the preferences. And thus if you used ampersands there, you can't use them anymore in any other possible subwindow of the preferences
2) Don't fully understand your questions there, what OK and Cancel buttons? There are many... Besides, like you explained yourself, ampersand are used by disabled people for example (if that answers this question)
3) Same reason as question 1

1. Of course I can't use ampersands on the same letters elsewhere. But as a translator it is my job to check these things.
2. In Messenger Plus! there are ampersands on all OK and Cancel buttons (except for the Preferences window). There is NO NEED for ampersands on these buttons (probably that is the reason why there are no ampersands on them in Windows). No need for accelerators on these two buttons as Enter and Esc work OK here. No need to tab to those buttons either. Using tab is the only way to get to those keys with no ampersands on them (but this does NOT apply to OK and Cancel as stated earlier).
3. Same argument as # 1

Conclusion:
A. Get rid of the ampersands on all OK and Cancel buttons. No need for them and it is not normal to have them in Windows, since you can use Enter and Esc.
B. Put an ampersand on the Apply button (but make sure that you don't use the same letter elsewhere in Preferences, of course).
These simple steps will make it easier for disabled people and furthermore it will conform to normal Windows "behaviour". Two birds, one stone.
05-21-2004 07:34 PM
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ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations for msgplus 3) - by CookieRevised on 05-21-2004 at 03:13 PM
RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations) - by Mnjul on 05-21-2004 at 03:17 PM
RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations) - by user17033 on 05-21-2004 at 03:32 PM
RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations) - by CookieRevised on 05-21-2004 at 03:39 PM
RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations) - by KeyStorm on 05-21-2004 at 03:44 PM
RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations) - by user17033 on 05-21-2004 at 03:47 PM
RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations) - by Leif on 05-21-2004 at 05:21 PM
RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations) - by CookieRevised on 05-21-2004 at 05:49 PM
RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations) - by Choli on 05-21-2004 at 05:49 PM
RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations) - by CookieRevised on 05-21-2004 at 05:52 PM
RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations for msgplus 3) - by Choli on 05-21-2004 at 06:08 PM
RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations for msgplus 3) - by CookieRevised on 05-21-2004 at 06:48 PM
RE: RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations for msgplus 3) - by Leif on 05-21-2004 at 06:53 PM
RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations for msgplus 3) - by Leif on 05-21-2004 at 06:50 PM
RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations for msgplus 3) - by Choli on 05-21-2004 at 06:50 PM
RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations for msgplus 3) - by Mike on 05-21-2004 at 06:52 PM
RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations for msgplus 3) - by CookieRevised on 05-21-2004 at 07:03 PM
RE: RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations for msgplus 3) - by Leif on 05-21-2004 at 07:34 PM
RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations for msgplus 3) - by Patchou on 05-21-2004 at 07:40 PM
RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations for msgplus 3) - by nus on 05-21-2004 at 07:48 PM
RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations for msgplus 3) - by Apatik on 05-21-2004 at 09:41 PM
RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations for msgplus 3) - by Choli on 05-21-2004 at 10:36 PM
RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations for msgplus 3) - by CookieRevised on 05-22-2004 at 05:21 AM
RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations for msgplus 3) - by CookieRevised on 05-24-2004 at 07:40 PM
RE: RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations for msgplus 3) - by user17033 on 05-24-2004 at 10:21 PM
RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations for msgplus 3) - by Choli on 05-24-2004 at 08:01 PM
RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations for msgplus 3) - by Chrono on 05-24-2004 at 08:08 PM
RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations for msgplus 3) - by Leif on 05-24-2004 at 10:25 PM
RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations for msgplus 3) - by Choli on 05-24-2004 at 10:33 PM
RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations for msgplus 3) - by user17033 on 05-24-2004 at 10:39 PM
RE: RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations for msgplus 3) - by Leif on 05-24-2004 at 10:50 PM
RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations for msgplus 3) - by user17033 on 05-24-2004 at 10:56 PM
RE: RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations for msgplus 3) - by Leif on 05-25-2004 at 04:00 AM
RE: RE: RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations for msgplus 3) - by user17033 on 05-25-2004 at 08:10 AM
RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations for msgplus 3) - by CookieRevised on 05-25-2004 at 12:36 AM
RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations for msgplus 3) - by ben_b on 05-25-2004 at 05:01 AM
RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations for msgplus 3) - by Apatik on 05-25-2004 at 05:15 PM
RE: RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations for msgplus 3) - by Leif on 05-25-2004 at 05:32 PM
RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations for msgplus 3) - by CookieRevised on 05-25-2004 at 05:35 PM
RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations for msgplus 3) - by Apatik on 05-25-2004 at 06:08 PM
RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations for msgplus 3) - by ZrednaZ on 05-25-2004 at 06:58 PM
RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations for msgplus 3) - by Choli on 05-25-2004 at 07:10 PM
RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations for msgplus 3) - by CookieRevised on 05-25-2004 at 07:45 PM
RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations for msgplus 3) - by user17033 on 05-25-2004 at 07:46 PM
RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations for msgplus 3) - by CookieRevised on 05-25-2004 at 08:21 PM
RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations for msgplus 3) - by user17033 on 05-25-2004 at 08:28 PM
RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations for msgplus 3) - by Leif on 05-25-2004 at 08:30 PM
RE: ALL TRANSLATORS READ THIS ASAP (faults in current translations for msgplus 3) - by Choli on 05-25-2004 at 08:35 PM


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