Shoutbox

Stop trying to find reasons to add/change it... It wont be done for all the reasons that we've already pointed out.


It can't be compared with the webcam option in Messenger. This option is already part of Messenger, and there is still a huge difference between something that is already part of a software and something that is added by a 3rd party. Privacy IS an issue here...

If it was added in a hidden way, then Plus! sends packets behind the back of the user. This IS a privacy breach. Even if the other contact has disabled the return of the ping, the packet is still send to that user. And THAT is were the privacy issue is. Plus! is already called spyware sometimes (without any reasons). If this is added in this way, then there are reasons to call it that. (I know there is still a difference, but that is what those people are looking for: lame excuses to call it spyware: "hey, I discovered that it sends hidden info"...)

Also, the thing above can be done in several ways: using the current protocol, or using a P2P method. Both methods are out of the question for Plus!. Plus! will never temper with the protocol (like other addons). It is suppose to be a "clean"/"non-invasive" addon. The P2P method is also out of the question because of the reason that Matty gave: Patchou wont add a dirty winsock-layer method to do this.

Also, don't forget the fact that people will not always have Plus!. Their Messenger should be able to handle the send "packet" without "beeping" up. If something is send to someone without Plus! they can say, again, that something is sending dodgy things to them (=again privacy issue and also the "dodgy software" factor).

So, how to do it in a clean way? By sending a textmessage... And text can't be hidden. And even if it could, it wouldn't be a nice thing to do...

Like Matty already said: all the methods available have been discussed before this was added. And this is the best, cleanest and proper way...