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Originally posted by riahc4
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Originally posted by CookieRevised
It can't be compared with the webcam option in Messenger. This option is already part of Messenger, and there is still a huge difference between something that is already part of a software and something that is added by a 3rd party. Privacy IS an issue here...
Ok the webcam detection feature is a part of messenger but it isnt a privacy breaking feature but a 3rd party addon that adds something similar isnt?
And because it is 3rd party it IS a privacy breach
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Originally posted by riahc4With this thinking since all features in Messenger are built in then Plus! couldnt make/add more features to it.
Exactly, Plus! will NEVER add features which are an invasion of privacy.
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Originally posted by riahc4
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Originally posted by CookieRevised
If it was added in a hidden way, then Plus! sends packets behind the back of the user. This IS a privacy breach. Even if the other contact has disabled the return of the ping, the packet is still send to that user. And THAT is were the privacy issue is. Plus! is already called spyware sometimes (without any reasons). If this is added in this way, then there are reasons to call it that. (I know there is still a difference, but that is what those people are looking for: lame excuses to call it spyware: "hey, I discovered that it sends hidden info"...)
Once again i bet MSN Messenger also sends a packet for the webcam detection feature so that also could possibly be exploited if further investigacion is done.
Once again, PRIVACY BREACH! Because it isn't an build-in feature of Messenger and because Plus! wont temper with the protocol.
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Originally posted by riahc4
Your saying something cant be done even tho its already in MSN Messenger. Why keep the chat log then if messenger already has one then?
Where did I say it can't be done? I said it
wont be done! Besides what has chat-logging to do (even remotely) with anything discussed here?
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Originally posted by riahc4
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Originally posted by CookieRevised
Also, the thing above can be done in several ways: using the current protocol, or using a P2P method. Both methods are out of the question for Plus!. Plus! will never temper with the protocol (like other addons).
How bout the File Transfer Plus plugin that was made by RicarDog? This uses something like you stated i belive.
Not similar at all! Furthermore I said
Patchou and
Plus! wont add anything P2P. I didn't say that plugins (which are 3rd party compared to Plus!) couldn't do it...
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Originally posted by riahc4
If Patchou found it to be illegal or incorrect dont you think he would have removed it from the forums?
If it was, then yes, it will be removed. But who said that FileTransfer is incorrect or illegal???
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Originally posted by riahc4
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Originally posted by CookieRevised
It is suppose to be a "clean"/"non-invasive" addon.
Of course i agree completely and it should remain like this as long as possible but (AND THIS IS OFFTOPIC AND MY STRICT OPINION) minds evolutionize as you and me both know. What happens when MSN decides to change messenger drasticly in where no "hooking" can occur? What will be the future of Plus! then?
If Patchou can't find a "clean"/"non-invasive" way, it will stop...
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Originally posted by riahc4
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Originally posted by CookieRevised
Also, don't forget the fact that people will not always have Plus!. Their Messenger should be able to handle the send "packet" without "beeping" up. If something is send to someone without Plus! they can say, again, that something is sending dodgy things to them (=again privacy issue and also the "dodgy software" factor).
The "PLUS IZ SPIWARE!111!!!" comments will always be there. Haters just hate cuz they aint popular like Patchou/Msgplus and broke ass people that aint getting no money either. The noob factor is a whole nother issue 
That isn't an excuse to include this to give those people even more reasons to say that...
riahc4, please stop to try and convince people, it wont be added for all the reasons we gave already several times before. No matter how hard you try (also because you're starting to give contradicting or offtopic reasons). sorry....
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