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Originally posted by riahc4
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Originally posted by CookieRevised
And because it is 3rd party it IS a privacy breach 
OK ill give you a better example; MSN puts in a new feature that detects the version of MSN on the other side but Plus also decides to make this feature for Plus! too. Your saying that it would be a breach of privacy on the part of Plus! BUT not MSN?? Why make addon's thenl???
MSN will not include this in a hidden way just because of the fact that it is a privacy breach. Why should you have to know in a sneaky way what version the other one is using? If this is added, it will be in a visible way so the other user knows you are requestion the versionnumber. The same with Plus!: Plus! will not include this in a hidden way, hence it is included in a visible way...
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Originally posted by riahc4
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Originally posted by CookieRevised
Once again, PRIVACY BREACH! Because it isn't an build-in feature of Messenger and because Plus! wont temper with the protocol.
To enable this feature (Plus! Detection) the protocol would have to be used?
I suggest you to reread this thread to know why I mention the protocol here (in short: using the protocol is 1 method of doing it) ...
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Originally posted by riahc4
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Originally posted by CookieRevised
Where did I say it can't be done? I said it wont be done! Besides what has chat-logging to do (even remotely) with anything discussed here?
Chat-loggin has nothing to do with it.
Then why did you used it to make a "point"?
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Originally posted by riahc4
Chat loggin is both in Plus! and in MSN. Webcam detection is in MSN so why not Plus! detection? That is the relation between them
Again... (
): Webcam detection IS already included in Messenger. MSN can do (almost) whatever they want in their own program. It will NOT be a privacy breach because EVERYBODY is using the same program and thus the same protocol, thus EVERYBODY _should_ know that it has this feature already included (also see the old discussion about
"msn logging=privacy breach?").
NOT everybody has Plus! and if those people without Plus! are being "pinged" in a hidden way, then that could be a privacy breach towards them. Hence it is NOT done in a hidden way...
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Originally posted by riahc4
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Originally posted by CookieRevised
Furthermore I said Patchou and Plus! wont add anything P2P. I didn't say that plugins (which are 3rd party compared to Plus!) couldn't do it...
Theres more than one way around the wall; meaning if p2p doesnt want to be done then theres gotta be another way...
No there isn't... The other methods are also out of the question for Plus!... Reread the thread, all the methods have been mentioned and explained. The only valid method is using textmessages, just like it is done now.
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Originally posted by riahc4
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Originally posted by CookieRevised
riahc4, please stop to try and convince people, it wont be added for all the reasons we gave already several times before. No matter how hard you try (also because you're starting to give contradicting or offtopic reasons). sorry....
CookieRevised, please stop trying to make valid points look bad.
Sorry, but your points are the ones that aren't valid and that is explained over and over again (and not only in this thread, see many other threads also)...
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Originally posted by riahc4
If your running outta arguments and this is your way to make yourself still look good then just dont reply to the thread.
With all respect but, like M_E said, I think I can say I know Plus! a bit better then you (so it seems) and what Patchou has said in the past about these things.
in short: NO protocol tempering, NO P2P things, NO hidden things, NO things which could breach the privacy, even in a remote way... period!
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Originally posted by riahc4
My ideas are for Plus! not for the "people"
That doesn't make sense. Plus! IS for the "people". And because Plus! is used by millions of users, there are things that need to be done (or not done for that matter) for the "protection" of those users...
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