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Originally posted by traxor
A lot of people use stuffplug ng, and I don't think its very useful, as Openconvo has errors
It does NOT have errors!
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Originally posted by traxor
it detects when there is a connection made between you and another user of msn messenger that is on your contact list. This connection is also made when somebody changes their display picture or name, so when this happens, it detects the connection, so Openconvo detects that somebody has opened the conversation even if they haven't... Its not fully reliable...
totaly wrong.
What you are hinting at is the new way of msn messenger 7 of requesting the DP of everyone on your list. In other words when the request goes out from your contact's messenger 7 to catch your DP. This is totaly something else then when the contact changes his DP or name.
In other words Openconvo (and any other notifier) will NOT react on such events (contacts changing DP and name).
Furthermore, OpenConvo should by no means be handled as something downgraded from StuffPlugNG. In fact Openconvo still has the upperhand (in GUI and options) in the ability to notify you when someone opens/closes a convo with you.
The ONLY difference between OpenConvo and StuffPlug was in the way they showed the notices; they worked EXACTLY the same (because it is the protocol that provides the info (the IRO and BYE messages)).
The ONLY reason that TB has discarded the function is because of the above reason with msn messenger 7, but not because of your explanation (because that's wrong). But in fact, you can very clearly see with Openconvo (when you use it with msn messenger 6.x) when the notification is because of opening/closing a chatwindow or because of your contacts' msn messenger 7 beheviour.
In fact, a very nice side effect of the new msn messenger 7 beheviour is when I'm running Openconvo here with msn messenger 6.2, I can see by its notifications who's using msn messenger 6.2 and who's using msn messenger 7!!!! You can't know this with any other plugin/tool/way/whatever!!!!
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Originally posted by traxor
There is no real point in deleted stuffplug-ng.dll as that would stop Stuffplug from working completely...
The point is/was to install Openconvo. StuffPlugNG can/must again be installed afterwards.
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Originally posted by traxor
Why do you think that Stuffplug NG Lost the 'Open Convo' feature?
Not because of the reason you gave (although you meant it right, that isn't what is happening)
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Originally posted by Carltos Cool
Z_Joanna_ZZZ there won't be any reliable open convo notifier plugins out there. As msn 7 opens invisible convo windows to get contacts dp's so the plugins will think that the contact has opened a convo window with you thus they are useless.
Wrong, It is still 100% reliable when you use it with msn messenger 6.2 and when you know how to use it (interpret the notifications).
Edit in reply to the post below: sorry, I indeed misinterpreted your post also.
Ps: And all the people that say that OpenConvo even doesn't work with them, simply didn't read the installation instructions (like pointed out in the toppost: installing/registering the needed files AND NOT removing/disabling Windows Messenger in a bad way).