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Do heaven and hell exist?
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O.P. RE: Do heaven and hell exist?
i was thinking earlier today about this (its not entirely linked to the original question)

umm.. i thought of a good argument for those that do not believe in god and for those who do. :P

because, we humans, are such a young species compared to the existance of planets, the universe, or basically even other living organisms. it is difficult for us to imagine or grasp the idea that some things may not have an end or a beginning. because we see things around us die all the time, we naturally assume that all things have a beginning and an end. that is why, it is hard for people to visualize the universe as always having an existance... what if it did exist forever? we are nothing - compared to all those ancient things that exist out there (or even on the earth). we just formed randomly because somehow an atmosphere necessary for our existance developed. had it been a bit different, maybe other beings would form.

... it was hard for me to find some sort of argument against it. but, it would not make any sense to me... looking at the perfection of our world. i mean everything exists in such a balance. EVERYTHING. its crazy...

i looked at it this way... god maybe is not as most people and religions view it/him/her.. what if god does not think/see/hear as most religions assume god does? people always give god HUMAN form, or way of understanding, human qualities.. (this is my opinion i dont mean to offend anybody's religion or non-religion) what if god IS the universe, what if god is the planets, galaxies, the earth, grass, rocks, fish, and a part of us.. everything that exists... i argue this way because, it sustains us, it gave us life.

i know this way of seeing things seems sort of pagan :P (kind of gives an explanation or excuse for those who in the past worshiped the planets or the sun) but think about it, it sort of makes sense. heaven and hell maybe are a fragment of our imagination than... or maybe they do exist but in a different way than anybody thinks. ...

just some abstract thoughts :P
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Do heaven and hell exist? - by Joa on 03-04-2005 at 09:02 PM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by SikStyles on 03-04-2005 at 09:06 PM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by user27089 on 03-04-2005 at 09:06 PM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by M73A on 03-04-2005 at 09:07 PM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by SikStyles on 03-04-2005 at 09:11 PM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by user27089 on 03-04-2005 at 09:11 PM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by M73A on 03-04-2005 at 09:15 PM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by Joa on 03-04-2005 at 09:19 PM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by andrey on 03-04-2005 at 09:22 PM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by M73A on 03-04-2005 at 09:23 PM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by Joa on 03-04-2005 at 09:38 PM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by user27089 on 03-04-2005 at 09:40 PM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by Joa on 03-04-2005 at 09:47 PM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by user27089 on 03-04-2005 at 09:48 PM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by saralk on 03-04-2005 at 09:49 PM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by Joa on 03-04-2005 at 09:52 PM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by ~INVASION~ on 03-04-2005 at 09:56 PM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by Joa on 03-04-2005 at 10:06 PM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by M73A on 03-04-2005 at 10:07 PM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by ~INVASION~ on 03-04-2005 at 10:10 PM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by Joa on 03-04-2005 at 10:14 PM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by ~INVASION~ on 03-04-2005 at 10:20 PM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by ProblemWv Authority on 03-04-2005 at 10:26 PM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by Ahmad on 03-04-2005 at 10:28 PM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by andrey on 03-04-2005 at 10:32 PM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by DJeX on 03-04-2005 at 10:38 PM
RE: RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by ProblemWv Authority on 03-04-2005 at 10:47 PM
RE: RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by paperless on 03-04-2005 at 11:18 PM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by Joa on 03-04-2005 at 11:04 PM
RE: RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by Ahmad on 03-04-2005 at 11:58 PM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by andrey on 03-04-2005 at 11:20 PM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by Joa on 03-04-2005 at 11:28 PM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by ~INVASION~ on 03-04-2005 at 11:40 PM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by Joa on 03-04-2005 at 11:47 PM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by paperless on 03-04-2005 at 11:48 PM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by Joa on 03-04-2005 at 11:58 PM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by paperless on 03-05-2005 at 12:03 AM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by Joa on 03-05-2005 at 12:11 AM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by TheBlasphemer on 03-05-2005 at 12:23 AM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by DJeX on 03-05-2005 at 02:09 AM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by user44571 on 03-05-2005 at 02:12 AM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by DJeX on 03-05-2005 at 02:19 AM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by user44571 on 03-05-2005 at 02:22 AM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by DJeX on 03-05-2005 at 02:25 AM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by M73A on 03-05-2005 at 09:54 AM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by Hank on 03-05-2005 at 09:59 AM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by user44571 on 03-05-2005 at 10:02 AM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by Ash_ on 03-05-2005 at 10:06 AM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by user44571 on 03-05-2005 at 10:18 AM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by John Anderton on 03-05-2005 at 10:39 AM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by saralk on 03-05-2005 at 11:04 AM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by user44571 on 03-05-2005 at 11:09 AM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by King For A Day on 03-05-2005 at 11:59 AM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by user44571 on 03-05-2005 at 12:00 PM
RE: RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by TheBlasphemer on 03-05-2005 at 12:35 PM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by user44571 on 03-05-2005 at 12:53 PM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by Millenium_edition on 03-05-2005 at 01:06 PM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by mad_onion on 03-05-2005 at 04:34 PM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by Joe on 03-05-2005 at 06:01 PM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by dotNorma on 03-07-2005 at 12:20 AM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by ShawnZ on 03-07-2005 at 02:14 AM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by dotNorma on 03-07-2005 at 02:33 AM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by DJeX on 03-07-2005 at 02:41 AM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by dotNorma on 03-07-2005 at 03:05 AM
RE: RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by haydos on 03-07-2005 at 04:03 AM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by Joa on 03-07-2005 at 03:19 AM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by DJeX on 03-07-2005 at 03:28 AM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by Omar on 03-07-2005 at 03:30 AM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by Joa on 03-07-2005 at 04:00 AM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by dotNorma on 03-07-2005 at 04:14 AM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by Pipish on 03-07-2005 at 04:17 AM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by Joa on 03-07-2005 at 04:23 AM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by Ahmad on 03-07-2005 at 04:44 AM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by haydos on 03-07-2005 at 04:50 AM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by Joa on 03-07-2005 at 04:50 AM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by Ahmad on 03-07-2005 at 04:57 AM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by Joa on 03-07-2005 at 05:00 AM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by -dt- on 03-07-2005 at 06:28 AM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by FrozernFire on 03-07-2005 at 07:53 AM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by user44571 on 03-07-2005 at 08:10 AM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by DJeX on 03-07-2005 at 09:40 PM
RE: Do heaven and hell exist? - by Tasha on 03-07-2005 at 09:51 PM


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